NQ-Wanderer Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Hello, Noveans. What are you thoughts regarding our SHEDDING LIGHT ON A NOVAQUARK INTERNAL DISCUSSION communication? Let us know below! TildaW4, SuperEpicAndy, Wolfram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredder Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Full wipe please. Yamamoto, Thaeric, Duragon and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogMinion Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 If you wipe in any fashion I will reduce 5 paid accounts to 3. Perfect time to consolidate those pesky skill points. LeeFall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulkija Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 If schemas go away I'm in favor of full wipe. Please revert also Territory taxes to old system => No territory tax but old system with Increasing fee for extra territories. If territories with mining units need upkeep make MUs to consume Nitron. Kritzsche, SpaceKirito, Doltair and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, NQ-Wanderer said: Hello, Noveans. What are you thoughts regarding our SHEDDING LIGHT ON A NOVAQUARK INTERNAL DISCUSSION communication? Let us know below! I am all for a partial wipe where the economy is reset, quanta + talents are removed, but all elements on constructs are removed as well. That way old players still have the honeycomb hulls of their constructs as a base for rebuilding everything. As a builder and this is the one I would be most happy with, as replacing elements is far less painful than replacing honeycomb. Edited April 14, 2022 by Shaman DecoyGoatBomb and Cybob19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belorion Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Why do they want to remove the schematics again? That is one of the only reasons why we got trading in this game <.< LeeFall, GamingGothic, Bachiir and 21 others 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogMinion Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 After all the things. actually i'd just leave if there was a wipe. seriously, look at teh mega factories. The investments in the schematics. The time and faith of the community to provide content. Resounding naw, Im out. Gimme monies back pls. The billionaire things was fixed with athena I think and the new "way" for more schematics and rarity of plas. anyway. pick right. Aleksandr, BlueDevila, Calisius and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldog Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Most important PRO's missed... Hundreds of paid accounts no longer paying. Less money for NQ Empty worlds with no constructs... sounds fun. Many existing players offer help to new players in financial and advice... gone. Edited April 14, 2022 by Caldog EasternGamer, Kurock, noggen and 26 others 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kormolos Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 full wipe please but keep BP (no magic !!!) Damian_Firecaster, CoyoteNZ, Quaideluz and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vylqun Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 If ther eis a full wipe (which i would prefere) then there should be a way to regain the old talent points, because thats bascially what ppl paid for. Be it that they get all their TP back 2 months or so into the game, or an increase in TP/hour until the "legacy TP-pool" is empty or whatever. Reepotah, Metsys, CoyoteNZ and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Full wipe every month. .. making the game appealing to new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazemonger Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I do not get this post at all as it really does nothing as far as answering any of the questions. It is a PR/marketing answer which really does not help at all. As NQ plans to release the game in a few months, it would be _really_ bad if NQ has not yet made this decision and is working towards release with that choice in mind. It also makes things more convoluted and complex as in reality NQ has only two options: No wipe Not the prefrred option for me for most of the reasons explained in the post and in general I believe it woudl hurt the game long run and cretainly at release. But I could live with it if it happened Partial wipe Players get to keep blueprints and accrued points are retunred to the talent pool, world is wiped This I prefer to happen, it maintains the benefit for existing players in tha tey wil be able to jumpstart a new world with their tal;ents to be reassigtned as wanted It also allows players who used beta accounts to change their choices if the wipe happens shortly before release. A full wipe wil not be an option as NQ has charges people to play and taking away that time by removing any benefits from that woudl be at best unethical. A parallel server is just a very, very silly idea as NQ hardly has the resources to afford one cluster, let alone two Starac, LeeFall, Walter and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredder Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shaman said: I am all for a partial wipe where the economy is reset, quanta + talents are removed, but all elements on constructs are removed as well. That way old players still have the honeycomb hulls of their constructs as a base for rebuilding everything. I am a builder and this is the one I would be most happy with, as replacing elements is far less painful than replacing honeycomb. This is the ideal situation Shaman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royituin Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Its a no to reset as I have played the game for 5 hours per day for over 12 months (over 2000 hours), to get resources and warp cell factory up and running etc, i would have to quit and go back to eve if I lost all that time and effort. Watanka, Kurock, Walter and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kurock Posted April 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2022 I have never read a bigger pile of one-sided bullsh*t basically advocating for full wipe in order to easily do away with schematics. Just announce the decision and get it over with. At beginning of beta it was announced "no more wipes except as required for updates" (like the mining update that was done). So if NQ do decide to wipe, it would be yet another promise broken. This also completely ignores that people have been paying monthly to play... As for "removing unfair advantage" and "level playing field". These are fallacies to help people sleep better at night. The players with the know how will return to the positions of abundance they have now in short order. There will always be "haves" and "have nots". All a wipe does is a slap in the face of the people that put time into the game after being told a wipe would not happen. Make a system that creates schematics rather than remove them. The problem with schematics, like the markets, is that they do not give player agency. A player cannot make a schematic at all, they have to be bought. Make science research a thing. Cons for wipe have already been mentioned: As I said, the "NQ thoughts" are heavily aligned to a wipe disregarding promises and small details like leaving an empty world, avid supporters of the game just leave, and paying customers just get their stuff removed. What a wipe also does is remove the history of DU such as it is... like Thoramine. Deleting a piece of DU history like that is unforgivable. Starac, Tokus_, LeoCora and 51 others 54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekerOfHonjo Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Are Schematics truely so unpopular? It gates people from building massive factories with no sense of economies. It would make everything sell at Ore value vs actual value because everyone wants to sell fast and get money now cratering a possible stable economy into the ground. or just make the only viable thing to sell on market is ore because everything else i can just make myself with minimal investment. Blackbeard06, Neryman, Pcfreak9 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHorizon Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 It's good to finally hear your guys' thoughts after such a long wait. Having read everything I'm starting to lean back in the direction of a full wipe. Yes, I fully expect this to disappoint the more creative types that have put in mountains of time and effort to get things to where they are now. More than a fair amount of people will likely leave over this and I would not blame them. This will allow new players to come in and we'll finally be in a somewhat acceptable state of permeance (I'm still surprised NQ hasn't taken to doing shorter reverts of the server in the event of game breaking bugs and abuses) where we can carry on without this fear looming under the bed. The only real surprise with this, the idea of removing schematics. Is it really that unpopular? We've gotten over that phase and now we're thinking of undoing it? I'm baffled. Damian_Firecaster, Ortath, KiyaStarcherry and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4nkkn1ght Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I'm still leaning towards wipe with magic blueprints. How do you plan to prevent players from exploiting this by creating L-Core blueprints full of advanced parts and industry, expensive voxels, containers full of ore etc.? An0ubiS, GraXXoR and Briggenti 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunty Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Go ahead and wipe everything but blueprints, fix past mistakes and make release as best as can be. Based on the points made that sounds like the best option. As long as blueprints are revamped to make it easer to redeploy static constructs it should be fine. I don't care if skill points are reset to 0, keeping all skill points might be too advantageous, but keeping a percentage of them or capping them might be a good compromise. If a few people leave because they lost their alpha/beta progress then so be it, best to appeal to new players. Flamm, Damian_Firecaster, SuperEpicAndy and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilo Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I've been playing Dual almoust since alpha started and i, for one, have always been in favor of a wipe But i'm not 100% against the schematics. The problem with them was the way you placed them on the game ... that was soooooo bad!!!! In a wipe if you keep the schematics from start people will adjust to it. That being said ... full wipe with extra points/tallents/quantas for your backers regardless of current status ingame, how many quantas we have, etc Damian_Firecaster, KiyaStarcherry and Pleione 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Roid Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 As a long time regular player: a partial wipe I could live with, a full wipe not. I would expect to at least remain blueprints, talents and schematics and preferably 'capsule constructs' (maybe without cargo and fuel). I think I am entitled to replace my factory I spend 2 years working daily in building without having to set it all up again from scratch for the 4th time (after alpha, beta pre-schematics, beta post-schematics). The idea to remove schematics is new to me, but if we can run factories without schematics that is ok: I did that before and with my talents I should be able to make money. There would just be more competition and a smaller market as more people will make their own stuff. But I do expect compensation for the years of grinding money and talents together to build up my schematics set. Not sure what I would do with 30bil, but I worked hard for it, and I never used any exploits. Would not be fair if the builders get all their work saved by getting blueprints, and industrialists loose everything they worked for. It is frustrating that this wipe discussion has been going on for so many months now. I would like a decision soon please, so that I know if I am wasting my time these months or need to go look for another game. Vulpeculae, Kveen00, Daemortia and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesusieni Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Im struggling to understand NQ , and do you understand even your own reason for doing things? Sure the addition of Schematics was loss of players and not well received, but without a system like Schematics there are no brakes on anybodies capabilities to mass produce. I do remember the days well before schematics how everybody had their own factory, and nobody needed to visit a market, DO note also with the addition of Mining units a world without schematics would be like everybody is playing factorio that is easy mode, there is no need to use the market, except maybe change my Bauxite to Hematite and thats it Also i have been playing this game under the original promise of no Wipe, that was even the reason when some Economic exploits happened some of us requested a server roll back Do a wipe, and i will wipe my account An0ubiS, Surlick, Blackbeard06 and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4nkkn1ght Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Aleksandr said: Full wipe every month. .. making the game appealing to new players. It takes more than a month to make some parts alone as things are in the game SpaceKirito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physics Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Apologies for the caps but the tone is intended. LEAVE TALENT POINTS OFF ANY WIPE DECISION JUST LIKE BLUEPRINTS. As for my opinion. If you must weigh pro and con list make it so Voxel only constructs survive the wipe. Make a warning pre-wipe if the construct will fail the check just like you did with element stacking. Pro - Builders can keep their hard voxel work and only have to replace the elements on the other side of the wipe. Pro - Far less Back Lash. Pro - Closes nearly all Loopholes apart from Voxel but Voxel will be the most easy to reproduce post wipe anyway so economic effect is very limited. Pro - Newbies can be instantly inspired by the veterans creations of the Beta period. Con - Some veterans will have to dig out ther buildings again. Con - Nq will have to add a small bit of effort to save the 1,000's of hours of work created by the community. Heidenherz, Kveen00, Cybob19 and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredder Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, SeekerOfHonjo said: Are Schematics truely so unpopular? It gates people from building massive factories with no sense of economies. It would make everything sell at Ore value vs actual value because everyone wants to sell fast and get money now cratering a possible stable economy into the ground. or just make the only viable thing to sell on market is ore because everything else i can just make myself with minimal investment. Yeh I wasn’t aware schematics were hated, just the implementation. If schematics go, then something else needs to replace them. Maybe talent based efficiencies to encourage people to specialise and use the market?? Starac, Heidenherz, Surlick and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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