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The New Horizon is a massive ship capable of transporting hundreds of players, ships and pieces of cargo. The New Horizon has many contracts with organizations such as TSE, empire, DSI  and federation alpha. we  the new horizon are looking for a wide variety of personnel. weather you wish to be on our excellent customer support team, our highly trained security team or internal management The New horizon needs you! 

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Did you know:

Almost nobody is going to use transportation systems.

That's like playing Call of Booty with a knife.

 

Also, logistics. How are you going to transfer this much stuff without, y'know, losing everything.

You are a giant target begging to be shot up by somebody from BOO or something.

Here's a few quick scenarios that could probably happen.

Situation 1: Nobody buys your services.

["Hey, it's... pretty lonely," xxx_DRAGONSLAYER_xxx softly whispers."]

Situation 2: You run out of fuel.

["Hey, uh... we got a major problem." xxx_DRAGONSLAYER_xxx yells over the Discord comms with a thousand other people.

"What?" The captain, Lettuce420 says.

"WE GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM." He screams with a thousand other people talking about mundane subjects, as your ship slowly veers into the gravity of a small moon.]

Situation 3: You get raided.

[You hear several large thunks, as a group of BOOians entire the doorway and steal all your loot. They don't even... like... pillage as your security team starts ejecting. They talk something about "making the biggest sculpture in the universe" and "poor fools forgot the have weapons." They decide to take your reactor and they warp away, leaving you with a few bread crumbs.]

 

As you can see, this happens to any large service. A fleet of smaller ships is much better as it prevents... almost every single one of these problems from happening.

 

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24 minutes ago, Kuritho said:

Did you know:

Almost nobody is going to use transportation systems.

That's like playing Call of Booty with a knife.

 

Also, logistics. How are you going to transfer this much stuff without, y'know, losing everything.

You are a giant target begging to be shot up by somebody from BOO or something.

Here's a few quick scenarios that could probably happen.

Situation 1: Nobody buys your services.

["Hey, it's... pretty lonely," xxx_DRAGONSLAYER_xxx softly whispers."]

Situation 2: You run out of fuel.

["Hey, uh... we got a major problem." xxx_DRAGONSLAYER_xxx yells over the Discord comms with a thousand other people.

"What?" The captain, Lettuce420 says.

"WE GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM." He screams with a thousand other people talking about mundane subjects, as your ship slowly veers into the gravity of a small moon.]

Situation 3: You get raided.

[You hear several large thunks, as a group of BOOians entire the doorway and steal all your loot. They don't even... like... pillage as your security team starts ejecting. They talk something about "making the biggest sculpture in the universe" and "poor fools forgot the have weapons." They decide to take your reactor and they warp away, leaving you with a few bread crumbs.]

 

As you can see, this happens to any large service. A fleet of smaller ships is much better as it prevents... almost every single one of these problems from happening.

 

 

 

situation one: people need mass transport, especially to large city's. Single person travel will be expensive and lengthy due to the fuel costs, not to mention if someone gets lost or their ships breaks down. The New Horizon does this on a large scale to minimize the costs for the average player.

 

 

 

situation two: Running out of fuel isn't an issue, We will stock up before every voyage and make sure nothing happens. We aren't stupid and will plan ahead before every voyage.

 

 

situation three: Raiding is certainly something to consider, why do you think I'm recruiting security teams and escort ships? I wouldn't do this blindly and its going to take place far after launch. 

 

Besides people that can't dream never achieve anything, wait til after launch  and you might see The New Horizon  doing great things. If you wish to bring this further I invite you to the discord.

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1 hour ago, Ever_green said:

 

 

situation one: people need mass transport, especially to large city's. Single person travel will be expensive and lengthy due to the fuel costs, not to mention if someone gets lost or their ships breaks down. The New Horizon does this on a large scale to minimize the costs for the average player.

 

 

 

situation two: Running out of fuel isn't an issue, We will stock up before every voyage and make sure nothing happens. We aren't stupid and will plan ahead before every voyage.

 

 

situation three: Raiding is certainly something to consider, why do you think I'm recruiting security teams and escort ships? I wouldn't do this blindly and its going to take place far after launch. 

 

Besides people that can't dream never achieve anything, wait til after launch  and you might see The New Horizon  doing great things. If you wish to bring this further I invite you to the discord.

Everyone says "that won't happen."

Let's state some facts:

A lot of ships are too heavy to move and run out of fuel too quickly.

A lot of people are already doing this.

A lot of orgs will not use your services because why should we trust you?

A lot of people will raid your ship just for fun. A lot more join that group when you have profit in the mix.

Your "org" simply cannot start. Elon Musk, for example, sold something valuable and managed to kickstart his stuff. You can't sell anything without buying several hundred DACs.

 

Also, no. I don't join random Discords to boost numbers. A forum should state opinions and facts, not fantasies.

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4 hours ago, Kuritho said:

Everyone says "that won't happen."

Let's state some facts:

A lot of ships are too heavy to move and run out of fuel too quickly.

A lot of people are already doing this.

A lot of orgs will not use your services because why should we trust you?

A lot of people will raid your ship just for fun. A lot more join that group when you have profit in the mix.

Your "org" simply cannot start. Elon Musk, for example, sold something valuable and managed to kickstart his stuff. You can't sell anything without buying several hundred DACs.

 

Also, no. I don't join random Discords to boost numbers. A forum should state opinions and facts, not fantasies.

Well, let’s state some hard truth as well:

 

How many orgs are just talking about their grand plans with the game 2 years from release believe that it will go exactly as planned? 

 

How many orgs are expecting their members to perform an exact job they are assigned to do, throwing the rest of the game aspects away?

that won’t happen!

 

How many orgs are expecting to build up a mega city and not to get blown up half way into it by another org that forms up on the day of release and looking to just build ship and pvp?

that won’t happen!

 

How many orgs are expecting to be a company designing ships, but have absolutely zero infrastructure and no one “feeding” them resources?

 

how many orgs are signing contracts and treaties and dreaming that the two parties will keep the contract intact for the next two years?

 

The horizon project might seem absurd, but he’s just dreaming like pretty much every single orgs are doing right now. With the game this far away from release, all talks are dream talks and I don’t see any problem with it ;) 

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7 hours ago, Kuritho said:

BOOians

BOObians pls. Have a like, nonetheless :D

 

6 hours ago, Ever_green said:

situation one: people need mass transport, especially to large city's. Single person travel will be expensive and lengthy due to the fuel costs, not to mention if someone gets lost or their ships breaks down. The New Horizon does this on a large scale to minimize the costs for the average player.

smaller ships need less fuel and the exact same amount of time (even less if you consider acceleration times) - it all depends on how it's balanced so that's a big unkown atm

 

6 hours ago, Ever_green said:

situation two: Running out of fuel isn't an issue, We will stock up before every voyage and make sure nothing happens. We aren't stupid and will plan ahead before every voyage.

other ppl in single seaters (as you mentioned in point 1) aren't stupid either - they too plan ahead so they don't get lost.

 

 

 

I don't expect many orgs which exist now to survive past launch - but ppl can and will dream anyway

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26 minutes ago, Lethys said:

I don't expect many orgs which exist now to survive past launch - but ppl can and will dream anyway

Indeed, i agree But well that keeps us busy till release, planning, diplomacy, dreams getting into reallity, others failing.

 

Yeah must love the Wait, Well i love to shake hands after release on the Tranquility with you ;) 

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3 hours ago, Lethys said:

BOObians pls. Have a like, nonetheless :D

 

smaller ships need less fuel and the exact same amount of time (even less if you consider acceleration times) - it all depends on how it's balanced so that's a big unkown atm

 

other ppl in single seaters (as you mentioned in point 1) aren't stupid either - they too plan ahead so they don't get lost.

 

 

 

I don't expect many orgs which exist now to survive past launch - but ppl can and will dream anyway

It could fail for sure, I'm not denying that but for now everything in DU is a dream. This could very well fail or it could be one of the largest projects in DU.

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dont Worry Ever, there are 30+K Noveans and approximately 3% read these forums so unles 17k people say noooo it wont happen your with the mayority that thinks why not ;)

There is not a single Game forum i know that is only filled by dreams and positive thinking. In general forums are for Trolls, complainers and some dreamers who think they can make the world/game a better place. Lets try to stay on the dream side with me ;)

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If big ship have unique thing i dont see why not:
1. FTL engine, assume the basic which easy to unlock first too big or consume too much for a small ship to use, so people will go on a "ferry" to use its FTL rather  than go long way alone.
2. Safe, band together always better than go alone. But also more dangerous as pirate will have a big catch anyway.
3. Fuel - If Fuel is costly in long run, then ferry will help you very much.
4. Afk traveling - I will just let my ship there , inside the long trip ( or short abit like 15 - 30 minute ) to go do something.
And it will be big help if you can go pass StarGate inside a ferry rather than to pay a big fee when go alone

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Different attitudes here... I personally rely more in the constructive (and healthy) ones, anyway. Regardless what will actually happen with the projects. No one knows. But you can walk the way with the affine people you can find. Then, your possibilities to achieve things (individually or colectively) will grow up. That's my view. By the way, did you hear what the cowboy says? ;)

 

 

 

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I like this idea, sounds great. Do you have a design in mind for how the ship will look? would love to see it.

 

Also, I would consider making the ship a space bound ship only. meaning it wouldn't ever land on planet/moons. The reason why is because it takes allot of fuel and power to get something really big off the surface and into orbit, so it really would not make much since to waste most or you're resources just trying to get off the planet, before you even start a long voyage. It seems like It would be better to have smaller ships docked aboard, that can go down to the surface while the ship stays in orbit, maybe docked to a station or something. Just a thought.

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1 hour ago, supermega said:

I like this idea, sounds great. Do you have a design in mind for how the ship will look? would love to see it.

 

Also, I would consider making the ship a space bound ship only. meaning it wouldn't ever land on planet/moons. The reason why is because it takes allot of fuel and power to get something really big off the surface and into orbit, so it really would not make much since to waste most or you're resources just trying to get off the planet, before you even start a long voyage. It seems like It would be better to have smaller ships docked aboard, that can go down to the surface while the ship stays in orbit, maybe docked to a station or something. Just a thought.

Thanks for the thoughts, the ship will be spacebound and we don't have a design quite yet. Probably will be made out of modules.

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Indeed, just like Tranquility. For both the ship and the city we are developing and designing modules.

With this the ship can be modified endlessly and made larger if needed, also it compartmentizes the ship in case of anything accident related or attacks.

We plan to deliver the Dockingbay Module to all the space located ports, for now those are 3. For the shuttles to the planets And the Tranquility taxi system there is already a great design by @Captain_Hilts who did a marvelous job! So. There is no design Yet, but there are fractions that are done in the name of modules.

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@Ever_green Dont feed the troll :3. Or also known as Kuritho, the master OwO sage.

 

And don't let yourself be told off from your idea.

Some people just don't understand Space in itself ... as long as you have protection at the location you want to unload and load your cargo, everything will be fine.

 

And booians, as far as i am concerned, aren't rocket scientists ...

It's incredible hard to catch a target in space~ Just be prepared to defend yourself and your cargo when you're close to planets/ orbital stations. And even then ... you probably have 3~10 trys to learn it. As people will need to learn how to attack someone who's standing still, without shooting past them as a comet and burning up in atmosphere.

 

AS in fact, you probably should be stationed close to that Atmosphere to Space Orbit for dropping off cargo into waiting hands of your costumers.

 

 

Good luck and god speed.

PS: Space is an deadly void ... but the best friend of a merchant.

 

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17 minutes ago, Aaron Cain said:

nah think that was Asuna that was caught

Honestly, Ichigo is the ichi-way-to-go.

Asuna is bland.

Zero Two is going to do weird stuff.

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On 11/5/2018 at 8:09 AM, Greenfox said:

@Ever_green

 

And booians, as far as i am concerned, aren't rocket scientists ...

 

 

That's because rocket scientists are dullards.

 

Underestimate your enemies at your peril.

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Dont worry, we have cookies.

 

No-one strikes the cookies, because if they do

 

The Cookies Strike Back, and after that we have The return of the Cookies.

 

And Maybe we should now introduce the special new section in TNH, Dock LDx, The Troll-Hole

 

Greetz Aaron

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Surely if you build this ship and then some big org pays you to help them move to another planet, then that org will provide the defence for the convoy? 

 

The only thing i would say is that I wouldnt set 'building the biggest ship in the game' as your only goal.  Make it your end goal but just focus on building a good logistics company which is earning the revenue to build the big ship.  People will want to get off world asap when game launches, if you can get funding / support from several orgs to get reasonable sized transport ship together, I would have thought there will be work to do.

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Agree, as tranquility is a city ship your goal as described would be to be bigger than tranquility, Byt its clear to me, Build The biggest transport ship in DU!!!!!!!!! And we support you and help, and cooperate, etcetc. Let us DU this!!!

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10 hours ago, Aaron Cain said:

Agree, as tranquility is a city ship your goal as described would be to be bigger than tranquility, Byt its clear to me, Build The biggest transport ship in DU!!!!!!!!! And we support you and help, and cooperate, etcetc. Let us DU this!!!

Sounds like this ship could transport a city. Maybe even attach to a city and pull/push it somewhere. 

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