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For a few moments, imagine the vine invasion on YouTube when vine was shutdown. Would the sameness thing happen in DU where it was over run with EVE vets, making the game harder for new players to enter the community both in game and on the forums?

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I don't think very many games are going to win over the die-hard Eve vets, even Dual Universe. 

While they share similarities in design philosophy, the gameplay of both games is drastically different.

 

There will be plenty of ex-Eve players coming into DU, but on the flipside, many of those vets will stay with Eve till the bitter end. 

 

 

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Just now, yamamushi said:

I don't think very many games are going to win over the die-hard Eve vets, even Dual Universe. 

While they share similarities in design philosophy, the gameplay of both games is drastically different.

 

There will be plenty of ex-Eve players coming into DU, but on the flipside, many of those vets will stay with Eve till the bitter end. 

 

 

well now that you say "Ex-Eve" players, i'm thinking about all the players that were banned or kicked from the community looking to settle their roots in this game. Which may lead to a trend of Ex-eve players coming to DU as an alternative to Eve. And seeing how devoted most of the players in Eve are ,some even willing to fork over 1000s of dollars on titans, what horrible thing could they have done to be kicked from that community. Maybe steal from a major faction, initiate a war between two super powers for their own benefit, scamming new players into giving them all they have until they penniless, attacking players in real life for IN-GAME benefit. I'm just worried that this new space sim with the advance politics promised on launch will leave the community being a hub for Ex-Eve players, while pushing those that were here from the start out of the community due to toxicity.

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10 minutes ago, Lulichika said:

well now that you say "Ex-Eve" players, i'm thinking about all the players that were banned or kicked from the community looking to settle their roots in this game. Which may lead to a trend of Ex-eve players coming to DU as an alternative to Eve. And seeing how devoted most of the players in Eve are ,some even willing to fork over 1000s of dollars on titans, what horrible thing could they have done to be kicked from that community. Maybe steal from a major faction, initiate a war between two super powers for their own benefit, scamming new players into giving them all they have until they penniless, attacking players in real life for IN-GAME benefit. I'm just worried that this new space sim with the advance politics promised on launch will leave the community being a hub for Ex-Eve players, while pushing those that were here from the start out of the community due to toxicity.

 

Nothing like palace intrigue to spice up the gameplay. B)

 

Seriously though, I am not sure if this will happen. There is no indication that those people will actually want to move over (barring Frogswarm and probably a few others). We will cross that bridge when we get there I guess.

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Just now, Oxyorum said:

 

Nothing like palace intrigue to spice up the gameplay. B)

 

Seriously though, I am not sure if this will happen. There is no indication that those people will actually want to move over (barring Frogswarm and probably a few others). We will cross that bridge when we get there I guess.

So is there no way of doing anything about it until it's upon us

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5 hours ago, Lulichika said:

well now that you say "Ex-Eve" players, i'm thinking about all the players that were banned or kicked from the community looking to settle their roots in this game. Which may lead to a trend of Ex-eve players coming to DU as an alternative to Eve. And seeing how devoted most of the players in Eve are ,some even willing to fork over 1000s of dollars on titans, what horrible thing could they have done to be kicked from that community. Maybe steal from a major faction, initiate a war between two super powers for their own benefit, scamming new players into giving them all they have until they penniless, attacking players in real life for IN-GAME benefit. I'm just worried that this new space sim with the advance politics promised on launch will leave the community being a hub for Ex-Eve players, while pushing those that were here from the start out of the community due to toxicity.

those examples you gave there are neither toxic, bad nor unwanted. If it stays ingame, everything is valid gameplay to get an edge over others. Can't kill their defense? Burn that alt you left in that org to deactivate them. Can't compete with an org? Infiltrate them and steal everything they got.

Such gameplay creates content for everyone and isn't really toxic.

Many eve players are already here (I'm one of them) but as said, DU is different and NQ will handle stuff differently from CCP

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Am I cool for saying I am also a former EvE player (but not even remotely a vet since I did not play it long)?  :P

"We are everywhere, hue hue hue!"

 

In all seriousness, some things that EvE might encourage or might have encouraged are pretty much universal. While EvE often seems to offer the most spectacular examples (because the game naturally seems to support it), I think it might almost be unfair to at least indirectly give EvE players a potential bad label for things that happen in other games but maybe do not get even playboy articles about the wonderful in-game and out of game tales (see playboy article about the known user "vilerat" who died in the US Embassy attack).

 

Other than that, perhaps time will tell what will happen. If DU becomes successful it might turn into a sandbox EvE with new wonderous tales that swap into the news.

 

As long as it happens in the frame and scope of the game, it's "legit", whether affected people subjectively like or, most notably, dislike it.

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I'm not sure that DU will actually appeal to "EVE players". At a glance, EVE and DU look very similar, but I think they will play quite differently. DU has far more "simulation" in the game features, which tends to make everything more slow-paced.

 

I expect that EVE's game play will be "fast-paced" compared to DU ! :D

 

In EVE, combat is very important, because there needs to be a way of removing the millions of tons of resources that are mined every day... and then respawn to be mined again a day or two later. In DU, resources don't spawn in known locations that can be bookmarked and revisited every few days, areas can actually be "mined-out", requiring prospecting in new areas, which takes time and additional logistics. 

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2 hours ago, NanoDot said:

I'm not sure that DU will actually appeal to "EVE players". At a glance, EVE and DU look very similar, but I think they will play quite differently. DU has far more "simulation" in the game features, which tends to make everything more slow-paced.

 

I expect that EVE's game play will be "fast-paced" compared to DU ! :D

 

In EVE, combat is very important, because there needs to be a way of removing the millions of tons of resources that are mined every day... and then respawn to be mined again a day or two later. In DU, resources don't spawn in known locations that can be bookmarked and revisited every few days, areas can actually be "mined-out", requiring prospecting in new areas, which takes time and additional logistics. 

Nah. That wont be the issue. The real issue will be the time needed to setup ambushes, traveling to/from the combat zones. (As well as multi-person crewed ships). Materials will alway flow....  ;)

 

But yes it will be slower paced in many respects.

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23 hours ago, CoreVamore said:

Nah. That wont be the issue. The real issue will be the time needed to setup ambushes, traveling to/from the combat zones. (As well as multi-person crewed ships). Materials will alway flow....  ;)

 

But yes it will be slower paced in many respects.

Yes, "materials will always flow", but in EVE you can finance yourself as a new player without ever having to touch a mining laser or training mining-related skills. NPC missions and belt-rat bounties (and rare drops) are a solid cash faucet in EVE, which is entirely absent in DU.

 

The only facet of EVE that I see translating 100% to DU is the political intrigue...

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