Shynras Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 The area of a tile is approx. 0.65 sq km The actual number of tiles on Alioth is 50862 Total planet surface: 33 060 sq km Radius of the planet: 51 km Max speed at sea level: 200 km/h Time required to circumnavigate the planet: 1,61h (322 km) Planet size and max speed may be subject to change. ostris 1
wizardoftrash Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 To give you an idea: - In the may devdiary is shown (map ui panel) that Alioth has 50862 tiles - In a recent tweet, NQ said that 1 tile is 681 sq kilometers Total surface of Alioth 681*50862= 34 637 022 sq km, roughly 3,5 times USA size (9 370 000 sq km). (ofc Alioth size may be changed in the future) Going to have to manifest destiny all up in Alioth in all honesty though that's huge! and to think there will be several planets to work with out of the gate!
Lethys Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Yup, that's why ore shortages, building problems and piracy won't be that of an issue
Zeal_Iskander Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Also, more interesting numbers : Surface of Alioth : 34 637 022 sq km = 1/15 of Earth's surface. Radius of Alioth : sqrt(34 637 022/4/pi) = 1 660 km. Circumference of Alioth : 1660*2*pi ~= 10 000 km. Max time needed to go from a point A to a point B on Alioth at sea level on a spaceship : 10 000 km / 2 / (200 km/h) = 25h. EDIT: in case of a typo from NQ, you divide surface by 1000 and radius, circumference, travel time by 31. Yields : Surface of Alioth :34 637 sq km = 1/15000 of Earth's surface. adius of Alioth : 53 km . Circumference of Alioth : 322km or 1/124 of Earth's surface. Max time needed to go from a pole to another on Alioth at sea level on a spaceship : ~50 min.
Stig92 Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 To give you an idea: - In the may devdiary is shown (map ui panel) that Alioth has 50862 tiles - In a recent tweet, NQ said that 1 tile is 681 sq kilometers Total surface of Alioth 681*50862= 34 637 022 sq km, roughly 3,5 times USA size (9 370 000 sq km). 681sq kilometers for one tile? Are you sure it isn't 0.681 sq. I remember reading that tile would be hexagon with 1km radius? Lord_Void 1
Zeal_Iskander Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Area for an hexagon with 1km radius yields 2.6 sq km anyway... > 1/4 of the Earth seem pretty big tho indeed. EDIT : 1.022 km of diameter yields .681 km of superficy for a tile.
Stig92 Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Area for an hexagon with 1km radius yields 2.6 sq km anyway... > 1/4 of the Earth seem pretty big tho indeed. EDIT : 1.022 km of diameter yields .681 km of superficy for a tile. Might have been diameter not radius.
elDunco Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Yeah, from what I remember each tile was about 1-km across. That seems like a more reasonable sized area to claim.
Lethys Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Area for an hexagon with 1km radius yields 2.6 sq km anyway... Uhm no. Or, depends what you define as radius of a hexagon.... With 1km radius it would be 3,4km2. What you mean is with 1km side lenght Zeal_Iskander 1
ATMLVE Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Yeah NQ has already stated before that Alioth, and planets in general, have a 100km diamater. This is in line with the other math done to calculate certain features; if you get the same answer two different ways, it's probably right! Vyz Ejstu and Lethys 2
Lethys Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Yeah NQ has already stated before that Alioth, and planets in general, have a 100km diamater. This is in line with the other math done to calculate certain features; if you get the same answer two different ways, it's probably right! Yup, if you calculate with 1km radius of the hexes it makes for 0,8km2 per tile. With 52000 tiles you get 115km diameter of alioth ATMLVE and Lord_Void 2
Zeal_Iskander Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 Edit : triangle stuff. Incircle gives you what you calculated i guess Lethys. Lethys 1
Lord_Void Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 I think you have incorrect numbers there OP. As others have said, I thik the tiles are about 1km in size (edge length or diameter, I don't remember). Going by the number of tiles on Alioth, that does work out to around 115~120km radius for the planet.
Shynras Posted June 12, 2017 Author Posted June 12, 2017 I think you have incorrect numbers there OP. As others have said, I thik the tiles are about 1km in size (edge length or diameter, I don't remember). Going by the number of tiles on Alioth, that does work out to around 115~120km radius for the planet. You didnt read the entire op
0something0 Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 I personally would prefer the bigger planet since that would be able to sustain future generations for more time.
mrjacobean Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 I personally would prefer the bigger planet since that would be able to sustain future generations for more time. Remember that Alioth is not the only planet, right? Bigger planets would make controlling them even more of a nightmare for the wannabe space empires out there.
Lethys Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 just for the sake of sanity: posts had been edited due to a typo from NQ on twitter - so maybe some posts don't make sense now Anaximander 1
Shynras Posted June 13, 2017 Author Posted June 13, 2017 just for the sake of sanity: posts had been edited due to a typo from NQ on twitter - so maybe some posts don't make sense now ^
NQ-Nomad Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Hi guys, As Lethys pointed out, we made an erratum on Twitter because of a mistake with the tiles' area (here and here). So it's currently around 0,65 sq km / 0.25 sq mi. Again, sorry for the confusion! Cheers, Nomad Code24, Shynras, Lethys and 6 others 9
DamianKnight Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 To really put this ^ in prospective for all those wondering how much they will be able to build.....25 Square Mile = 160 Acres1 Acre = to average 1 house and yard in rural United StatesIf you live closer to a major City this average lot size shrinks more and more until you are in the City where it is the smallest soooo....Suburb average lot size is about half that at .5 Acres and Exurbs you are looking at an average lot size around .3 AcresIf you live in a major City you do not have a house or yard and they measure things a little different in what they call City Blocks, but these are not average, standard, usually anywhere near the same going from City to City so, I will use New York City (Famously known for very square uniform Blocks) north to south a NYC Block is 1/20th a mile.25 miles = 5 New York City BlocksSo 1 claim area could give you enough space to build either or... 160 Large houses with Large yards320 Decent Size houses with Decent yards5 Large City Blocks Stig92 1
Rafiki Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Is the correct area 0.649519052838329 sq km ? Pls let me know, i need to calculate it for city management.
John Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 it's what NQ-Nomad just said above. 1 tile's area is about 0.65 sq km so 0.25 sq miles.
Shockeray Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 The tiles are not perfect hexagons, not even all hexagons. As is normal with geodesic domes, there have to be a few pentagons (normally made of 5 triangle sections). If you look at the map of Alioth, it is similar to this just with smaller territories (notice all of the hexagons are skewed because you can only build a plane with Regular hexagons): Anaximander and Nebenfigur 2
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