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DU is more S.S. => Simply Stupid 😉

Put in a support ticket with info to where you want it moved. We had ours moved in beta, maybe they still do such things.

And they shouldn't! The tax is just a measurement on when automining is profitable (or not) and an exit of quanta from the economy. You have three HQ tiles per account and a starter moon tile per account. That should be more then enough for building stuff for most people.
 
The problem here is not NQ (in this case), it's all the people that are still automining when it's not profitable enough. "But I want to automine!" is not a good reason if you're complaining about viability... There are other ways of making quanta besides automining and running missions...
 
I stopped doing automining a while back, as it took way too much time vs. the rewards. I started loosing interest in DU due to the work involved and that resulted in even less rewards and eventually forcing me to run missions to pay for the taxes (as I was using the ore and not directly selling it). Eventually I completely broke down the mining operation. Since then I haven't done (auto)mining or mission running and my operation has become more profitable because of it!

Alt Universe, mirite?
 
But yeah, sometimes I forget my erratic playing habits cover up for charge deficiencies. I’ll play 2-3 days and then take a day off to recharge, literally and figuratively. I’m honestly surprised I play that much, all things considered…

I think that ship has sailed, while some might come back, most won't ever touch DU again. Too much 'bad blood' by changes and promises unkept. The wipe was a breaking point for many. The way NQ handles characters and possessions for folks with long lapsed accounts is also so horrible that it doesn't reward coming back at a later time and start from scratch (AGAIN!)...

Very little of the old Talemai remains, so yes it's an old planet, but it went through extensive plastic surgery and currently has the value of a $5 hook...
 
ps. We're still playing a beta... 😉

I have achieved a lifelong dream.
 
I've built a gazebo.
 
Mandatory awe (not really) in the Exchange's blue section, thank you.

Hell no! It's a pure and bland sandbox, it has the potential for us to tell good stories. But the DU setting itself is virtually not existent, at the start of beta there was some hint of something more during events, but that was quickly squashed when the previous CEO left...
 
DU is the equivalent of mom getting a big box of LEGO, yelling "VROOM! This is a spaceship!" turning the box over in the middle of the living room. "You just crashed on a new planet, you need to rebuild!"... "I'll check back on you when you're 18 and I can kick you out of the house."... 😉

No thank you to either ideas.

Hi
 
Since we (The Prospectors) are being discussed on the Talemai claiming I felt it necessary to give a little insight into what actually happened.
 
This is our game loop and has been since the start of Beta.
We specialise in scanning and run an Auction House off the back of scan results allowing players to buy/sell hex data
 
We have been prepping for a new planet since launch and are prepping for the next planets.
 
Our team was 10-12 Players with 18 Scanners each and scanned majority of the planet in around 12 hours.
In beta we had ~100k scans and had mapped most of ION (every single hex)
 
The ore distribution from single megas in a hex to blobs of ore for mining units changed scanning forever. 
You no long need to scan every hex.
 
There is no cheating, there is just super organised players working together for a common goal.
 
We opened our doors in Beta and had over 120 players mining for us. 
Those doors remain open and you are all more than welcome to come and join then fun of scanning, calibrating and hex management.
 
Get in touch with me on discord (ZeroPainZeroGain) if you want to play with us on the next planet
 
Thanks 
ZeroPainZeroPain
 
 

Hell no! It's a pure and bland sandbox, it has the potential for us to tell good stories. But the DU setting itself is virtually not existent, at the start of beta there was some hint of something more during events, but that was quickly squashed when the previous CEO left...
 
DU is the equivalent of mom getting a big box of LEGO, yelling "VROOM! This is a spaceship!" turning the box over in the middle of the living room. "You just crashed on a new planet, you need to rebuild!"... "I'll check back on you when you're 18 and I can kick you out of the house."... 😉

No offense, but how much old sci-fi just completely ignored science as it was known then? And the line between sci-fi and fantasy has always been very blurred, even 'hard' sci-fi often ignored a lot of science in favor of story. And that's not a big issue imho. It all depends on suspension of disbelief and the consumers willingness to do that. But some things require a lot more suspension then others, the NQnian physics require a rewiring of reality... 😉
 
I honestly don't care much about the NQnian physics, as long as they stay internally consistent, but as NQ is running an eternal Alpha game, they keep changing stuff around, often quite drastically. And even then, due to it's buggy state, it's internal logic is not applied consistently... Is this a floor? Nope, not today? Must be something to do with the alignments of the moons and the butterflies being in heat....

Hell no! It's a pure and bland sandbox, it has the potential for us to tell good stories. But the DU setting itself is virtually not existent, at the start of beta there was some hint of something more during events, but that was quickly squashed when the previous CEO left...
 
DU is the equivalent of mom getting a big box of LEGO, yelling "VROOM! This is a spaceship!" turning the box over in the middle of the living room. "You just crashed on a new planet, you need to rebuild!"... "I'll check back on you when you're 18 and I can kick you out of the house."... 😉

Hell no! It's a pure and bland sandbox, it has the potential for us to tell good stories. But the DU setting itself is virtually not existent, at the start of beta there was some hint of something more during events, but that was quickly squashed when the previous CEO left...
 
DU is the equivalent of mom getting a big box of LEGO, yelling "VROOM! This is a spaceship!" turning the box over in the middle of the living room. "You just crashed on a new planet, you need to rebuild!"... "I'll check back on you when you're 18 and I can kick you out of the house."... 😉

No offense, but how much old sci-fi just completely ignored science as it was known then? And the line between sci-fi and fantasy has always been very blurred, even 'hard' sci-fi often ignored a lot of science in favor of story. And that's not a big issue imho. It all depends on suspension of disbelief and the consumers willingness to do that. But some things require a lot more suspension then others, the NQnian physics require a rewiring of reality... 😉
 
I honestly don't care much about the NQnian physics, as long as they stay internally consistent, but as NQ is running an eternal Alpha game, they keep changing stuff around, often quite drastically. And even then, due to it's buggy state, it's internal logic is not applied consistently... Is this a floor? Nope, not today? Must be something to do with the alignments of the moons and the butterflies being in heat....

Hell no! It's a pure and bland sandbox, it has the potential for us to tell good stories. But the DU setting itself is virtually not existent, at the start of beta there was some hint of something more during events, but that was quickly squashed when the previous CEO left...
 
DU is the equivalent of mom getting a big box of LEGO, yelling "VROOM! This is a spaceship!" turning the box over in the middle of the living room. "You just crashed on a new planet, you need to rebuild!"... "I'll check back on you when you're 18 and I can kick you out of the house."... 😉

Hell no! It's a pure and bland sandbox, it has the potential for us to tell good stories. But the DU setting itself is virtually not existent, at the start of beta there was some hint of something more during events, but that was quickly squashed when the previous CEO left...
 
DU is the equivalent of mom getting a big box of LEGO, yelling "VROOM! This is a spaceship!" turning the box over in the middle of the living room. "You just crashed on a new planet, you need to rebuild!"... "I'll check back on you when you're 18 and I can kick you out of the house."... 😉

I think the craziest symptom of this oversharing is the way you used to be able to see all the tunnels inside the planet you were digging in, if you managed to clip your head through a tunnel wall (which wasn't as rare an occurrence as you might hope...). What's the point of my machine even knowing about things that are entirely outside my ability to perceive or affect.
 

MS has not dropped support for the 5000 series on W10 (EOL Oct 14, 2025), nor has Nvidia dropped driver support for the 900 series of video cards. W11 indeed has no official support for this cpu.
 
The issue is not money. The issue is power consumption. I run two AMD 4800U (8c/16t, 64GB RAM, 2TB+4TB SSD) with integrated graphics (8GB assigned), passively cooled they are completely silent, those are also at least twice as powerful CPU wise and not that far behind in GPU power as you might think of integrated graphics. They only use a small amount of power compared to the old machine and tiny amounts of power compared to more modern stuff. I work from home and it's often at least 50 hrs a week, but probably more in the 80-120 hrs a week that my workstation is on. The amount of power it uses is wasteful and with the current pricing of power around here, just not a good idea. It's also not fun running during the summer without airco. The a fore mentioned 4800U machines will work as my main machines in the future and I'll be PC gaming on my Steam Deck, anything it can't handle I'll run via a cloud service (Geforce Now for now)... I'm just working through 10TB of stuff on the old machine and get it well sorted on the NAS, I'm also working on changing my workflow, etc. (moving over takes some time)
 
Those 4800U will actually run DU at lowest settings (only draws 40W). During beta they did a TON of mission running. Nothing too complex or I will have issues.
 
The newer generations of desktop CPUs and GPUs use way too much power and generate way too much heat. Especially with the hot summers this is going to force me use an airco. For what? A couple of games that refuse to optimize? There's a ton of good and fun games I can play on a Steam Deck. And with  €100-€200/year I can run something like DU on a cloud service. I can run for years on the cloud for the cost of a new machine, especially when you add power costs...
 
What I find strange is that everything seems to run fine in DU in somewhat lower settings on my pc, but this basic feature (this is a floor) doesn't often seem to work ok. If stuff like this continues at a certain point DU is no longer viable as a game/experience, beyond it's already massive shortcomings.

It's not much of an addiction... I'm feeling zero pangs, or urges to log in... 
 
These forums tho'....
 

They threw out fun half way through beta, with the rest of the bathwater...
 
Sometimes I wonder if NQ is fine with DU not being fun, but just being an addiction...

Try making the voxel floors 2 L cores thick.

This seems the appropriate place to share this.
 

Keep in mind that some with 10-20 accounts certainly didn't pay $300+/month... Some paid $70/year/account and prepaid for years. Sure, $1400/year for 20 accounts is a lot of money for some, for other's it less so. But keep in mind that this happened in a period where people couldn't spend money on vacations, going out, new computers, etc. Thus some might have that money to spend...
 
Keep in mind that a study in 2017 had as a result that the average US student spend $900/year on booze... What if you're a student that doesn't drink (alcohol) at all? Add inflation and that $1400/year for 20 accounts isn't so much as you thought. IF you want to do that now, it is more like ~$2800/year for 20 accounts, but still quite a bit removed from the $300+/month...
 
That said... 20 accounts... Much of DU is gated by player activity. I wouldn't want to manage 20 characters! I have four and while I might theoretically would like a few more due to talents, actually using them all would be an absolute pain! I wouldn't even want to think about using them all to automine... That would be another full time job! No thank you!

I believe so. I've been able to visit several asteroids that spawned prior to the patch and they are in the game.