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Does anyone else think it we should somehow limit the amount of orgs being created? I don't know how but the amount of orgs is crazy.

Hotwingz Newbie

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Does anyone else think it we should somehow limit the amount of orgs being created? I don't know how but the amount of orgs is crazy.

Why?

Orgs are one of the primary tools in community creation.

 

But to answer your question more directly, no I dont think so.

Ardour Newbie

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 I was thinking of a cheap price for organizations. Current organizations could renew the organization by paying a small price to eliminate useless and "spam" organizations.

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The ratio of players to orgs  is like 5:1

Lethys Enthusiast

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Why limit it, orgs will die anyway with time because of inactivity. And they're not going to be successful anyway.... no need to limit players.

 

But please keep the spam going, alt accs. I want to laugh too

Hotwingz Newbie

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But please keep the spam going, alt accs. I want to laugh too

Yea he's not even subtle about it.

Not my sense of humour though.

Vyz Ejstu Newbie

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The amount of stupidity this forum provides never ceases to amaze me.

 

Don't stop though, I need something to read while I drink my coffee and fuck off at work. 

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Dang, Cybrex. 

 

 

 

Does anyone else think it we should somehow limit the amount of orgs being created? I don't know how but the amount of orgs is crazy.

 

You know, Sakej...This was discussed in detail here. 

 

Dead horses don't move. 

 

Cheers.

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devu Newbie

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Don't be a org amount nazi :D. Natural selection will kick in as soon as single-person-org will get punished outside Ark safe zone ;)

Vyz Ejstu Newbie

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Don't be a org amount nazi :D. Natural selection will kick in as soon as single-person-org will get punished outside Ark safe zone ;)

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Ahem...

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Kuritho Newbie

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Why do you even care? How does this effect your life? Stop letting insignificant things bother you.

Yay! You're finally back!

But you do know that some people love to have complete-order and everything has to have a purpose.

 

Also, it is something to talk about due to, understandable, the Developers not rolling/showing anything new for a bit. Nothing to speculate currently.

yamamushi Rookie

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Out of game, I don't think there should be any limitations.

 

In-game, that should be limited by a skill level, similar to how the leadership skills work in Eve Online. 

MasteredRed Newbie

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sigh le sigh.

 

 

So I'll take this seriously. I'm trying not to cringe. Here we go.

 

If you want to suggest a way to eliminate spam organizations, you are too late to the table. Spam organizations are currently here for a primary reason of the game not being released yet. Due to the fact that this is a subscription based game, spam accounts are not likely to be filling organizations by the hundreds. This would cause a very big problem for the person financially.

 

So there is no real problem when it comes to later game. Even if free accounts could join organizations, I'm sure someone will develop a tool to detect if there are too many free accounts in an organization. It is not a problem that I can see causing mass panic.

 

If you are referring to the game as it is now, then you must realize that "paying" for org creation is a terrible idea. This would limit the creative freedom on the community and while it would do some good, it will mostly hurt. Again, you must realize this before suggesting "make it a paywall!" to the entire community. 

 

 

Now, onto another subject....

 

I would just like to point out some irony here.

 

The other day, this was released https://github.com/malignantz/DualScraper/

 

I downloaded the data.json file and got to work on making a small little script to read through what I suspect to be alts of organizations. It's a lovely python script and here's how it detects "suspected alts".

 

I look through the members of an organization, compare it to the member list, and read the following:

 

Does the user have a pledge?

Does the user join after the day their account is created?

 

And if none of those are true, they are marked as a "suspected alt" that I can then output as a number. Now this data is about 11 days old(at the time of writing) and so the data is a bit out of touch with the current events. However, I determined that the number of suspected alts was 66. Now, at that time, The Void Republic member count was 74. Take what you want from that, but it's not appropriate for this to be the case.

 

 

Now, I have given these scripts to a select number of people(such as Cybrex) so that they may do their own investigations.

 

My point is that I'm not really putting up with these types of posts anymore. The solution will eventually fix itself so we must wait for that time.

DarkTemplar Newbie

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Cybrex doesn't need a script for detecting alts. He has this sixth sense that simply tells him.

Kuritho Newbie

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I don't get it sakej. Don't you TVR guys have three different orgs that is basically TVR 1, 2 and 3?

-snip-

Whoa dude!

It is NOT cool to have valid arguments and call someone out for being a hypocrite!

FD3242 Newbie

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No I do not think there's to many.

 

When the game comes out the bad ones will be flushed out.

 I was thinking of a cheap price for organizations. Current organizations could renew the organization by paying a small price to eliminate useless and "spam" organizations.

THAT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA!!!!

 

Edit: Also we have gone over this before. Remember when that guy made a bunch of alts.

Anasasi Newbie

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Just out of faith that this isn't some odd troll,

no, there isn't 'too many' organizations.

 

Yes, there are a lot of one and two man orgs, but a lot of other games have the same thing where people will go make a guild or group with one or two friends, plus, the current sytem is actually generally more for reserving your organization names and getting your groups together and ready. If those many low member orgnizations come back around, they'll more than likely fold in with the masses, but always expect a lot of organizations, really.

 

I don't think limiting it any way at this stage is beneficial (except particular cases), in-game is different.

Lethys Enthusiast

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Just out of faith that this isn't some odd troll,

no, there isn't 'too many' organizations.

 

Yes, there are a lot of one and two man orgs, but a lot of other games have the same thing where people will go make a guild or group with one or two friends, plus, the current sytem is actually generally more for reserving your organization names and getting your groups together and ready. If those many low member orgnizations come back around, they'll more than likely fold in with the masses, but always expect a lot of organizations, really.

 

I don't think limiting it any way at this stage is beneficial (except particular cases), in-game is different.

For in-game orgs there won't be a hard limit either because it's self-limiting. No need in any way for some random mechanic.

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