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And if a wipe now and the excuses NQ use to justify it are accepted, then what exactly is to prevent another wipe at some later stage?
I mean the game is not going to be even close to feature complete at release. And there are some major features missing that will drastically change the balance of the game later on.

Not obvious who 'we' is here.  Looking at the 28 page wipe thread it's not obvious that the majority of players agree with it.

Source for this statement?
 
It's not an exploit
 
Again, you clearly have no idea how Shadow PC works.. and I very much doubt that there is players who spend $30 a month per shadow account just to dualbox several alts in PVP in DU. That idea is just silly as there are much better options in PVP games to do that cheaper and easier.
 
You make a lot of assumptions and statements for which you really have not presented anything that validates them.

Space market is good addition how ever not as NPC marketplace.
 
@NQ: Now you have a change to finally  introduce player-run markets and take first steps to real player run economy. 
 
 
Other note:
50KM no-build zone is way too small. It must also include deploying dynamic constructs.
Also it must have quite short "parking permit"
Otherwise it is no use to approach with heavy hauler.

*cough* Utopia Station *cough*

edit: For reference, Utopia Station is about 1SU from the centre of the safezone. We've been there for over a year. It would have been great if this was a player element that could be attached to existing, long-standing, trade outposts.

Fecking PvP centered changes again. Why does everything have to revolve around and get shat on because of PvP?
 

I am against a full wipe for many reason:
The first thing we ear in the trailer is that this game is about building a new civilization. What sort of civilization can be created if every x time you are doing a wipe? Because doing one time open the opportunity to do it again. From the beginning we have been told that there would not be any wipe. We have spent time creating structure and cities that will never been recreated.
I have multiple current project on which I have spent a ton of hours: Factory (1 month to build it, ~2 months to farm and increase it) Statue of liberty (25% done and already more than 1000h) Atlas Museum (at least 100h spent by Infidel and 20h by me) keep track of the incredible creations that have been made A wipe will not solve any issue, it will just delay the current issues by some months. A wipe will promote casual player ( I have nothing against them ), because why will you spend a ton of time in a game that can be reset anytime. A wipe will remove instantly all creation from https://du-creators.org/  All the history of DU (good or bad) will be reset. A lot of friendship will be lost, some people connecting time to time will no more connect. Content creator will have nothing to show on their video and so a lot of promotion for the game will be lost.  
"Unsatisfying for players wanting to discover the game and start with a more polished version of the game."
Someone that want to discover the game always enjoy to see big thing that can be done in the game and if he become more advanced in the game, the game experience will not change from what we have now.
 
"Does not allow to remove Schematics properly."
You can remove them, no worry we will be able to handle our factories. I will make our life 10x easier. And for those people that have spend a ton of money (as me) in schematics, we have at least already our factory ready.
 
"Does not allow to revamp the old planets properly."
The old planets are OK like they are, just add more planet in between them. That will increase activity between the planets that are too far away from each other. (~4h travel time from Ion to Alioth who will become longer with the new speed mechanism for hauler ~6h)
 
"Does not allow the rebalancing of the economy properly."
You can remove all quanta it will not change the game mechanism, your mission system is broken. A wipe will not change it, it will still be broken.
 
"Potentially keeping bugs related to very old Constructs."
I am pretty sure that the quantity of very old construct that "bug" is limited, you should be able to contact their creator or put a timer on them as you do when we park in Aphilia tile.
 
 
If a full wipe append I want to have an opportunity to be refund for all months I will not play (because I will not play the game anymore)

King regards

Right around the time of the schematic firesale, in EVE CCP made an oopsie and event sites were dropping Nightmare BPOs instead of nightmare BPCs. CCP quickly told their players that this was an error, to not use the BPO, and within a day or so had removed them from the game and replaced them with the correct item.
 
I remember watching that and watching NQ's total silence for the matter, watching it never get resolved. It was a bad feeling.

Exactly we paid for those damn talent points! (in time, money, and dedication)

because blueprints are beautiful.
I can make the same ship withing 5 hours, the same functionality.
But beauty for it cost me 5 weeks.

They don't want to remove the way schematics work from the game. They want to remove specific schematics from the game. Many months ago there was an unintended NPC firesale where anyone online for those 30 mins could buy schematics at 1% of the usual price. Billionaires were made that day. 
 
The server was not reset after it was fixed. NQ did not follow up on chasing down those schematics and removing them. 

I'm still leaning towards wipe with magic blueprints. How do you plan to prevent players from exploiting this by creating L-Core blueprints full of advanced parts and industry, expensive voxels, containers full of ore etc.?

Stop being a carebear, don't you know this is a FULL LOOT OPEN WORLD PVP GAME?!!!! Ugh, all these noobs that just won't git gud and complain when I gank them in PVP space. It's the game, not the player! Also this game needs to be more PVP focused, it's the only real content- everything else in game should just there to support it. I mean it's pvp space so expect to be blown up; it's all fair game! Yeah there is no prison system... or bounty system.... or in game NPC's to help police space... or incentives to not pirate, it's great! Full gank, full loot baby!

If we didn't have safe zones all these whiny carebears would stop playing and the full loot pvp master-race of noveans will finally rise! The issue with every other full-loot pvp mmo is they tried to cater to the majority of their casual carebears making the game fun for nobody. Don't make the same mistake NQ, listen to your hardcore PVP crowd or this game will end up like every other full loot focused pvp MMO with a subscription, dead. I'm not being toxic, you're being toxic... there is nothing toxic about communities in full loot pvp games.. you just need to git gud.

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Don't they add cross section as well?

Fecking PvP centered changes again. Why does everything have to revolve around and get shat on because of PvP?
 

Fecking PvP centered changes again. Why does everything have to revolve around and get shat on because of PvP?
 

Fecking PvP centered changes again. Why does everything have to revolve around and get shat on because of PvP?
 

whales will be whales, most of those beta keys came from founder/contributor packages that cost more than the all the sub throughout beta. Those keys were never free, in fact in some cases they turned up more expensive than the corresponding sub throught beta.
 
The whole notion that beta key accounts were freeloaders is despicable. For the most part these came from people who opened their wallet to a DU dream long before you could even log in for one of those short alpha weekend tests.  Without them, there would no DU, regardless of how incomplete the game still is all these years later.
 
Post realease alt account numbers will not be heavily affected by paying sub on them.  DU has a very similar demgraphic as EVE. If the game scratches our itch and NQ treats us right most of the whales will happily solder on with their alt swarms, just like they did with EVE. (if don't have 4+accounts in eve, you're not taking the game seriously, and the sub is almost 2x what DU charges).
 
For the record yes, i'm one those with multiple accounts. And no i don't run npc missions, because i don't feel like spending 5 hours slowboating from A to B while watching startrek is worth any amount of quanta to me.  Player haul jobs are good enough for me. And i play mostly solo and i never got any free stuff fron anyone and never had issues with earning quanta.
 
 
 
 

There's plenty of websites that will help in picking compatible parts. I'd strongly suggest using a comprehensive system like pcpartpicker vs. offhand knowledge from around here which will never be complete. 
 
They also have plenty of prebuilt configurations that will give you a rough price range and list of compatible components. 
 
Personally, I stopped seeing the point of building my own computer...the price difference of a high end prebuilt vs. all the constituent components (at retail prices) seemed too small for the effort...but of course "too small for the effort" is highly relative. 

This thread is begging to be locked...if grown adults can't handle being reasonably polite, I think NQ should change the forum rules. 
 
Every thread of any length becomes some argument about PvP or a wipe, anyway...with predictable (and endlessly repeated) outcomes. 
 
Allow replies to developer posts, but eliminate the ability to make new topics...at least in this "general discussion" area. 🤷‍♂️
 
No one has anything new to say about PvP that hasn't been said in the last 6 years of history here. People have been arguing since the day PvP was announced as a concept. All that's left is complaints and insults.
 
I'm surprised NQ has let this forum continue for as long as it has. It's an extra burden of moderation they don't really need. 

TMA?   This is my surprised face  👉 😶

Funny how this dude’s name always seems to pop up from time to time. 
 
he still around?
 
another thread bound for nowhere pleasant.  
 

Black text on a black background is a great evil to me...  (edit: thanks for fixing)
 
I don't know about this specific drama, but I do find it sad that there are issues with the community not being polite...for a "mature" community of mostly older gamers, there's a lot of childish behavior. 
 

Lua is coming... You will be able to use a screen or RGB light to indicate the status. But yes, a simple light, like we have on the factory elements might be nice.
My MUs stop spinning if the output container is full, but not if they've reached 0%.

For AM4 you really will not go wrong with the ASUS PRIME X570-P
I use it, it's excellent, had good performance, GREAT VRM and is dirt cheap for what it offers.

mule is a terrible ship to begin with, the way it's put together very much defines how it handles. It very possible to make  ships that have plane like behavior all the way down to flaring on landing. I used to build ships like that, but most people in game prefer a different kind of experience