Stig92

Thank you. I hope that Novaquark agrees with you and the language is good enough for them. Writing fanfic in English for three years has helped with that, but I still need practice. 

I refer to my earlier comment, Kurock got within 1% of the final result, but at least I did better than Haavisto
 
Also congrats 
 
Now we just have to wait for the staff review.

Would love to see airline with this name. Also "real quick landings airlines", "one plane, one landing airlines" or "get out anytime airlines".

I like the idea of players transporting other players.  One of my favorite aspects of early Everquest was that the Wizard class could teleport themselves and others.  And it was the only way to get around other then walking.  So you either needed to make friends with a Wizard, or pay one.
 
I don't know about the "discount airline" concept though.
 
There would have to be some way to violently drag another player off the plane for no reason.  

Anything can be jammed..... 
 
 

Nice idea, realistic, but maybe a bit too costly in regards of time and effort, given what NQ has to work on all in all. 
 
Different idea, less effort: have some sort of planetary or region-wide visual effects, shader, whatever the right term is, to show "pollution" or other negative effects after a while, or bind such effects to certain simple conditions such as certain objects that would produce waste (simplified, production units) if there are many on a planet or in a wider area. 
 
You can then check how "industrialized" or populated, say, Alioth is by hand or automatically and apply the moderate or big visual changes when it becomes believable. And maybe remove or lower them when applicable. 

Short stories are not my strong suit, but here is my story for Novawrimo. In an attempt to contribute to Dual Universe role the story proposes an in universe reason for the design of arkships (as seen in visuals I could find by the end of 2017),  while facing some philosophical-/moral questions. 
 
I'm not native English speaker, but have written quite a bit in English and try to get better at it. Constructive criticism of the language is welcomed as well as of the story.  
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Right to Exist.docx 
Right to Exist.pdf
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edit: unfortunately the forum apparently requires me to have also word doc. attached here to include it in message as required by contests rules and the forum decided to count both files together towards the 500kb limit, even when I tried to have them in separate posts. For this reason I had to remove lot of formating/ separate font I used to highlight some things and make the text more readable, essentially all but raw text, in order to fit both files within the limit. 

Short stories are not my strong suit, but here is my story for Novawrimo. In an attempt to contribute to Dual Universe role the story proposes an in universe reason for the design of arkships (as seen in visuals I could find by the end of 2017),  while facing some philosophical-/moral questions. 
 
I'm not native English speaker, but have written quite a bit in English and try to get better at it. Constructive criticism of the language is welcomed as well as of the story.  
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Right to Exist.docx 
Right to Exist.pdf
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edit: unfortunately the forum apparently requires me to have also word doc. attached here to include it in message as required by contests rules and the forum decided to count both files together towards the 500kb limit, even when I tried to have them in separate posts. For this reason I had to remove lot of formating/ separate font I used to highlight some things and make the text more readable, essentially all but raw text, in order to fit both files within the limit. 

Short stories are not my strong suit, but here is my story for Novawrimo. In an attempt to contribute to Dual Universe role the story proposes an in universe reason for the design of arkships (as seen in visuals I could find by the end of 2017),  while facing some philosophical-/moral questions. 
 
I'm not native English speaker, but have written quite a bit in English and try to get better at it. Constructive criticism of the language is welcomed as well as of the story.  
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Right to Exist.docx 
Right to Exist.pdf
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edit: unfortunately the forum apparently requires me to have also word doc. attached here to include it in message as required by contests rules and the forum decided to count both files together towards the 500kb limit, even when I tried to have them in separate posts. For this reason I had to remove lot of formating/ separate font I used to highlight some things and make the text more readable, essentially all but raw text, in order to fit both files within the limit. 

Short stories are not my strong suit, but here is my story for Novawrimo. In an attempt to contribute to Dual Universe role the story proposes an in universe reason for the design of arkships (as seen in visuals I could find by the end of 2017),  while facing some philosophical-/moral questions. 
 
I'm not native English speaker, but have written quite a bit in English and try to get better at it. Constructive criticism of the language is welcomed as well as of the story.  
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Right to Exist.docx 
Right to Exist.pdf
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edit: unfortunately the forum apparently requires me to have also word doc. attached here to include it in message as required by contests rules and the forum decided to count both files together towards the 500kb limit, even when I tried to have them in separate posts. For this reason I had to remove lot of formating/ separate font I used to highlight some things and make the text more readable, essentially all but raw text, in order to fit both files within the limit. 

Short stories are not my strong suit, but here is my story for Novawrimo. In an attempt to contribute to Dual Universe role the story proposes an in universe reason for the design of arkships (as seen in visuals I could find by the end of 2017),  while facing some philosophical-/moral questions. 
 
I'm not native English speaker, but have written quite a bit in English and try to get better at it. Constructive criticism of the language is welcomed as well as of the story.  
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Right to Exist.docx 
Right to Exist.pdf
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edit: unfortunately the forum apparently requires me to have also word doc. attached here to include it in message as required by contests rules and the forum decided to count both files together towards the 500kb limit, even when I tried to have them in separate posts. For this reason I had to remove lot of formating/ separate font I used to highlight some things and make the text more readable, essentially all but raw text, in order to fit both files within the limit. 

Moving parts can also great outright immediate problems with themselves. Those who have played space engineers have seen this with pistons, rotors (and also maglock landingear). You know, spontanious explosions and stuff. Then again I was considering building a temple for Klang somewhere in DU and having moving parts blowing up all around from his wrath could bring more followers. 

Everyone should measure distances in Poronkusemas' (reindeer's pisses).
 
 
 
" An old Sami word meaning ‘the distance reindeer can travel before needing to urinate’. Used as a distance measure, as in “ There’s a Poronkusema to his house’ (7 kilometres, in case you were wondering)." http://www.scandikitchen.co.uk/useful-scandinavian-words-start-using-english/

1. Its fact that as creators of the game NQ has the unfortunate legal right to police anything that is put in their game, and even more unfortunately they may be forced to in some cases by French law. (I'm not familiar with it but some commented that it isn't the best on freedom of speech)
 
2. Just because NQ is private organisation and can do what they mean doesn't matter at all to whether it is best for the community, business or players, or right in any way so if someone tries to dismiss this conversation with "NQ has right to do what they want", please don't (I wouldn't want to censor you if you did, but I think it shows... whats a good word... stupidity?) 
 
3. If NQ ends up censoring I at least hope they are consistent, because people often aren't. For example if you say "all black people + something negative" or "all women + something negative" people are all over it, but replace those with white people or men...
 
4. Offensive/disturbing/etc are extremely vague and subjective matters + if you think something should be censored because it offends someone (no matter how many are offended) you are saying someone has right to not (subjectively) be offended above someone's right to free speech etc. Some people get offended if you call woman or female looking person she or dress in costume that describes another culture, muslims get offended if you draw human character and call it Mohammed, some Christians get offended because some other people are allowed to marry in a way they personally don't support.
 
I would like to ask how many people have to find something offensive to make censoring it "right" 99% 90% 80% 51% 25% or one crybaby. 
 
If someone makes Nazi moonbase in DU http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/274/full/1349386589_2.jpg , one person flies past and ignores it, other has a good laugh and flies past it. Third thinks it would be good idea to arrange raid against it with friends and stream their attack on moon Nazis for people to enjoy, but after all the preparations gets disappointed because fourth had his/her/it's/zis' etc. (have to be careful not to accidentally offend someone) feelings hurt and went crying to NQ to remove the station. Let alone these fun moments 1:00-1:07 
That (which harms no one) wouldn't happen if people just censored like some here want to. 
5. Let me make an another example on same topic (swastika). This thread has people who think that specific set of lines (and I don't care about intent, it's still set of 6 lines that aren't going to hurt you) or even people who make them should be banned because they TAKE offense on it based on what it was used for at one point in history. Even ignoring that you still shouldn't censor people, that position shows great ignorance of reality. Swastika wasn't invented by Hitler. in india its past goes back at least 11 000 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika with apparent religious meaning. In some contexts I have also heard it referred as symbol of luck of something like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz8gE92lVDY Finnish airforce used it as their symbol after Swedish donor of the first plane painted it on the plane to bring luck and remains on flag of Karellian air command https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Karjalan_Lennoston_lippu.svg/200px-Karjalan_Lennoston_lippu.svg.png (what if some Finnish former conscripts wants to found org with that name in the game, uses the flag and gets censored because easily offended ignorant people don't care about facts or basic freedoms.). FYI the swastika it also exists in our most important medal http://koulut.kontiolahti.fi/lukio/ilpo/pm_risti.jpg and there are lot of people who are likely to take offence if someone decides to censor that, it identifies the greatest heroes of a nation after all. 
 
Last two texts were to prove the subjectivity of offence and stupidity of people who are eager to censor.
 
6. I have heard "free speech" "freedom from consequence" argument before as excuse for censorship. Only consequence for free speech should be that which other people can cause within limits of their free speech, which does not include censorship. 
 
7. If you get easily offended by words people say in chats, then sufficient solution is to have personal filter where individual person can "censor" messages he sees, or block messages to him, but does not affect other people beyond being harder to reach for them. Maybe NQ could extend something like that to screens and such that exist in the game world. 
 
8. To make my stance clear, I do actually recognize exceptions to freedom of speech that should have not just in game-, but also legal consequences, but they aren't some vague bs like "hate speech" "racist" or "offensive" There are three main exceptions:
A) threat/direct incitement of violence or crime. 
Spreading false (especially harmful) lies about another person as fact (here I might tolerate, even support some burden of proof on person doing the spreading as proving negative could prove unreasonably hard for the other person)
C) Spreading true but private or secret/confidential information without permit (note I do not recognize secrecy on evidence of a crime, especially by governments, so I do support right of people like Snowden, Assagne and Manning to do what they did.). In games and anonymous social media names, addresses etc. would count as private information. 
 
Hell, I was just about to vote in elections couple of days ago during last pre-election day, for a guy that seemed quite decent and transparent, then I though about asking about free speech, first half a dozen words in his answer were good, then came the word hate speech, and I decided to wait till actual election day and reconsider who to vote. 
 
Well it seems, this discussion pushed my buttons. I think I end this novel here, for now at least.

I think this would be useful without bad side effects. It might also be decent way of moving between floors without running around stairs with less moving parts than elevator.
 
 I could also consider a system that needs to have some specifically built connection between transport units so it would be possible to say build a cable between separate buildings in a base/city, or very limited range transport between constructs that can't be used to transfer large quantities of cargo or travel between planet's surface and orbit.
 
Or how about pipes that you fly through quickly like in futurama

 

I'll tell you one thing I admire about flat earth cultists, it is their tenacity in how they address some of the questions regarding how their theories are rational which are quite thought provoking. 
 
That doesn't mean they are correct however. 

I think this would be useful without bad side effects. It might also be decent way of moving between floors without running around stairs with less moving parts than elevator.
 
 I could also consider a system that needs to have some specifically built connection between transport units so it would be possible to say build a cable between separate buildings in a base/city, or very limited range transport between constructs that can't be used to transfer large quantities of cargo or travel between planet's surface and orbit.
 
Or how about pipes that you fly through quickly like in futurama

 

I don't yet have 3 dimensional paper to map 3d tunnel in scale and with enough detail to ensure not hitting other chamber for example. 
 
Then again we could all just draw our bases, ships and organisations on paper, role-play through chat or forum and save around 10-15€/month for not needing to pay DU when it comes out.

I'm more on RightBigToe's side. I don't see why you should limit wiki just pure game mechanics. If it is supposed to help players, especially new players then knowing about player created things like organisations, central player made locations or other things like player created events etc. is just as valid information. All those are definitely useful information for player entering the world, or even long term player who can't keep an eye on everything in-game alone. 
 
Isn't wiki community created content too and why should there be some other place to write general information on community created things in-game if there is already a wiki. Sure organisations have their own pages to market themselves, but wiki would have change to have other point of view than own marketing, also write down their history.
 
As for changing nature of organisations, it is true that one decision by one player could render wiki page obsolete, but does that mean it shouldn't have existed. Lot of things tend to change over time, sometimes unexpectedly. It just means people contributing to wiki need to be active for those parts of the wiki to be up to date and useful as more than historical achieve. I would also recommend highlighting date of information whenever writing something as being the current status. If you want to clarify different topics you can also classify/title wiki articles as information on the game itself (game mechanics etc.) and the world/player made content (orgs, places, events etc) so people know what they are reading, but I don't see any need for some completely separate place for that information.
 
Though I would be careful in writing about organisations for example before game comes out. They aren't really established until people get to create them in-game. At least I would separate pre launch info from what actually ends up happening.

I'm more on RightBigToe's side. I don't see why you should limit wiki just pure game mechanics. If it is supposed to help players, especially new players then knowing about player created things like organisations, central player made locations or other things like player created events etc. is just as valid information. All those are definitely useful information for player entering the world, or even long term player who can't keep an eye on everything in-game alone. 
 
Isn't wiki community created content too and why should there be some other place to write general information on community created things in-game if there is already a wiki. Sure organisations have their own pages to market themselves, but wiki would have change to have other point of view than own marketing, also write down their history.
 
As for changing nature of organisations, it is true that one decision by one player could render wiki page obsolete, but does that mean it shouldn't have existed. Lot of things tend to change over time, sometimes unexpectedly. It just means people contributing to wiki need to be active for those parts of the wiki to be up to date and useful as more than historical achieve. I would also recommend highlighting date of information whenever writing something as being the current status. If you want to clarify different topics you can also classify/title wiki articles as information on the game itself (game mechanics etc.) and the world/player made content (orgs, places, events etc) so people know what they are reading, but I don't see any need for some completely separate place for that information.
 
Though I would be careful in writing about organisations for example before game comes out. They aren't really established until people get to create them in-game. At least I would separate pre launch info from what actually ends up happening.

Praise be praise be. Would you like to join me in building a temple for Klang to sooth his anger in order to protect those using rotors and pistons?
 
 
 
U-wings anyone?

Praise be praise be. Would you like to join me in building a temple for Klang to sooth his anger in order to protect those using rotors and pistons?
 
 
 
U-wings anyone?

1. Its fact that as creators of the game NQ has the unfortunate legal right to police anything that is put in their game, and even more unfortunately they may be forced to in some cases by French law. (I'm not familiar with it but some commented that it isn't the best on freedom of speech)
 
2. Just because NQ is private organisation and can do what they mean doesn't matter at all to whether it is best for the community, business or players, or right in any way so if someone tries to dismiss this conversation with "NQ has right to do what they want", please don't (I wouldn't want to censor you if you did, but I think it shows... whats a good word... stupidity?) 
 
3. If NQ ends up censoring I at least hope they are consistent, because people often aren't. For example if you say "all black people + something negative" or "all women + something negative" people are all over it, but replace those with white people or men...
 
4. Offensive/disturbing/etc are extremely vague and subjective matters + if you think something should be censored because it offends someone (no matter how many are offended) you are saying someone has right to not (subjectively) be offended above someone's right to free speech etc. Some people get offended if you call woman or female looking person she or dress in costume that describes another culture, muslims get offended if you draw human character and call it Mohammed, some Christians get offended because some other people are allowed to marry in a way they personally don't support.
 
I would like to ask how many people have to find something offensive to make censoring it "right" 99% 90% 80% 51% 25% or one crybaby. 
 
If someone makes Nazi moonbase in DU http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/274/full/1349386589_2.jpg , one person flies past and ignores it, other has a good laugh and flies past it. Third thinks it would be good idea to arrange raid against it with friends and stream their attack on moon Nazis for people to enjoy, but after all the preparations gets disappointed because fourth had his/her/it's/zis' etc. (have to be careful not to accidentally offend someone) feelings hurt and went crying to NQ to remove the station. Let alone these fun moments 1:00-1:07 
That (which harms no one) wouldn't happen if people just censored like some here want to. 
5. Let me make an another example on same topic (swastika). This thread has people who think that specific set of lines (and I don't care about intent, it's still set of 6 lines that aren't going to hurt you) or even people who make them should be banned because they TAKE offense on it based on what it was used for at one point in history. Even ignoring that you still shouldn't censor people, that position shows great ignorance of reality. Swastika wasn't invented by Hitler. in india its past goes back at least 11 000 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika with apparent religious meaning. In some contexts I have also heard it referred as symbol of luck of something like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz8gE92lVDY Finnish airforce used it as their symbol after Swedish donor of the first plane painted it on the plane to bring luck and remains on flag of Karellian air command https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Karjalan_Lennoston_lippu.svg/200px-Karjalan_Lennoston_lippu.svg.png (what if some Finnish former conscripts wants to found org with that name in the game, uses the flag and gets censored because easily offended ignorant people don't care about facts or basic freedoms.). FYI the swastika it also exists in our most important medal http://koulut.kontiolahti.fi/lukio/ilpo/pm_risti.jpg and there are lot of people who are likely to take offence if someone decides to censor that, it identifies the greatest heroes of a nation after all. 
 
Last two texts were to prove the subjectivity of offence and stupidity of people who are eager to censor.
 
6. I have heard "free speech" "freedom from consequence" argument before as excuse for censorship. Only consequence for free speech should be that which other people can cause within limits of their free speech, which does not include censorship. 
 
7. If you get easily offended by words people say in chats, then sufficient solution is to have personal filter where individual person can "censor" messages he sees, or block messages to him, but does not affect other people beyond being harder to reach for them. Maybe NQ could extend something like that to screens and such that exist in the game world. 
 
8. To make my stance clear, I do actually recognize exceptions to freedom of speech that should have not just in game-, but also legal consequences, but they aren't some vague bs like "hate speech" "racist" or "offensive" There are three main exceptions:
A) threat/direct incitement of violence or crime. 
Spreading false (especially harmful) lies about another person as fact (here I might tolerate, even support some burden of proof on person doing the spreading as proving negative could prove unreasonably hard for the other person)
C) Spreading true but private or secret/confidential information without permit (note I do not recognize secrecy on evidence of a crime, especially by governments, so I do support right of people like Snowden, Assagne and Manning to do what they did.). In games and anonymous social media names, addresses etc. would count as private information. 
 
Hell, I was just about to vote in elections couple of days ago during last pre-election day, for a guy that seemed quite decent and transparent, then I though about asking about free speech, first half a dozen words in his answer were good, then came the word hate speech, and I decided to wait till actual election day and reconsider who to vote. 
 
Well it seems, this discussion pushed my buttons. I think I end this novel here, for now at least.

people being offended by some written words on a display in some corner of the world in an mmorpg? Sry, but people who are so whiny, that they can be offended by such things, are better off not using a computer at all^^

I'm disappointed in this community. There have already been at least 2 threads about people hoping for censorship and pretty much first thing people think about after seeing screens introduced is how to censor what other people put on them. If it is a screen then it is something located in certain place in the world that you can see if you are there. If you see something you take offence to in someone else's construct you can either ignore it or go somewhere else. If you are building as a group/organisation then the group can have internal rules on what to have in the common construct and outsiders have the previous 2 options. 
 
I swear with some of the people here I might just have to build the nazi moonbase from Iron Sky (image from the movie through google)
 just to trigger the easily offended who think other's should be controlled by their personal feelings. I don't care about your NSFWs (that I had to google). Unless you work for Novaquark or plan to run youtube channel on DU, Dual Universe is not your work (Not Safe For Work) and I don't have a wife (Not Safe For Wife) +If you have one, its not something that should affect anyone else.
 
You'll have my support if someone puts up irl threat/direct incitement of violence/crime, reveals personal information or spread false information about a person. If you try to censor beyond that I'm 99% likely against you.
 
Would also safe NQ's time and resources to not control what people do and let people deal with disagreements and make rules between/inside organisations in-game.
 
Damn I think this is my third rant on this subject.