DarkHorizon

Not to drag this off topic but I think this is what a lot of us, especially kickstarters have started to loose sight of.
 
When I plonked my fifteen freedom bucks down it was like a convergence of everything I wanted that I didn't know I wanted to begin with. Now, years later, I see all these other games that have picked up steam and powered on by while DU seems stuck in dev hell. Sure things are coming out, but I don't feel the same excitement as I did in early pre-alpha. Now we're in that one phase where an update didn't come out for a couple months then before we knew it A1 had arrived and things were rolling.
 
Maybe that's why beta isn't proving nearly as exciting as I thought it'd be. Probably all the bug fixing that's going on, I wonder how much better things are than when beta started. Maybe that's why the end of PA was so long. Stuff like this takes time and while it seems like we're going nowhere, we're only players seeing the surface of what's happening.
 
For now, color me skeptically optimistic.

Not only that. Also how they have decided to communicate over the years. Even if they figure it out today and come up with a decent game in the next few years... The way they have treated the community over the last few years should be an alarming sign.
 
If you had told me 4 years ago what would become of DU, I would have bought an early access version of Starbase instead of my Ruby pledge for each of my 6 friends.

No... rotating engines when, NQ has been teasing me for two or three years now? C'mon, get with the times.  ?
 
Surprised the line delete tool wasn't a thing earlier. This actually reminds me of a kickstarter (I think) video, weren't we supposed to also be able to create voxels with soils, terraforming and whatnot?

Or your ship just had better space brakes compared to your jetpack (don't forget you can brake with your jetpack by pressing CTRL, same as with constructs). It might be worth entering into build mode before jumping off since that will basically 'tether' you to your construct.
 
 
Members of Eyes & Ears Search and Rescue commonly need to use their jetpacks when crossing from their constructs to that of a victims when out in deep space and the occasional station. While I can't recall that many interesting uses jetpacking around, some of the more curious moments come about during moments of suddenness.
 
When jumping from core to core, the gravity adjustments as your avatar aligns can rotate you in an entirely unexpected direction. This makes me reminiscent of @Kurock's gravity maze which I did not complete because it gave me a headache. Supposedly you can complete it without the jetpack, and I'd like to know who is mad enough to attempt that.
 
For this second bit on jetpacking, I'm sure everyone has used their jetpack to assist in climbing up the more vertical terrain, be it mineshafts, cliff faces, etc. I think it was early alpha 1, I was on Thades and going up the side of the ravine and came across a terrain deformation. It was one of those sharper bumps of land that didn't go away no matter how much you smoothened it, still encounter those today. I jumped over it about as much as the ground would let me which was not much. I don't want to say it was a ground spike because not only did I not see it, but my (then 6700k) processer usually clears those up pretty quick.
 
Anyways I rapidly shot up a good three or four thousand meters and fell back down again with apparently no ground beneath me for the trip back until I was on the surface. This is the first time I'm mentioning this because I was recording my sessions at the time for future archiving (and bug reporting), the xsplit software didn't hook into the game appropriately, which does happen from time to time requiring closing out both programs and restarting them, but all I got out of it was a black screen and no audio. Was left very mad because it's interesting stuff like that I wanted to make a sort of video collage out of when testing is over. 
 
Probably not a lot of jetpacking involved now that I look back, but hopefully interesting none the less.

Since the ticket queue is bound to be overwhelmed, this is just a friendly little announcement that Eyes & Ears Search and Rescue is ready and able to accommodate players requests for situations that do not fall outside another players ability to assist. Aside from the typical rescue, repair, refuel, and transport situations, this non-exhaustive list of situations include:
 
Crashing and respawning
Surrogate sessions swapping places with your avatar
Someone leaving your space station unaware your ship is docked to theirs
Constructs getting stuck up in the air
 
This does not include:
Respawning inside your friends construct with no way out
Glitching under someone's base
Adjuster locks (get out and back into the pilots seat)
Disobeying the rules and NQ teleporting you to some moon 1,000 SU away with no ore/resources/constructs.
 
For any requests, we ask that you join our Discord server and submit a ticket and our dispatchers will help you find a rescuer to get you back up on your feet.
 
While NovaQuark is pulling back in support, Eyes & Ears is stepping forward as a player run solution to fill that void.

Since the ticket queue is bound to be overwhelmed, this is just a friendly little announcement that Eyes & Ears Search and Rescue is ready and able to accommodate players requests for situations that do not fall outside another players ability to assist. Aside from the typical rescue, repair, refuel, and transport situations, this non-exhaustive list of situations include:
 
Crashing and respawning
Surrogate sessions swapping places with your avatar
Someone leaving your space station unaware your ship is docked to theirs
Constructs getting stuck up in the air
 
This does not include:
Respawning inside your friends construct with no way out
Glitching under someone's base
Adjuster locks (get out and back into the pilots seat)
Disobeying the rules and NQ teleporting you to some moon 1,000 SU away with no ore/resources/constructs.
 
For any requests, we ask that you join our Discord server and submit a ticket and our dispatchers will help you find a rescuer to get you back up on your feet.
 
While NovaQuark is pulling back in support, Eyes & Ears is stepping forward as a player run solution to fill that void.

Since the ticket queue is bound to be overwhelmed, this is just a friendly little announcement that Eyes & Ears Search and Rescue is ready and able to accommodate players requests for situations that do not fall outside another players ability to assist. Aside from the typical rescue, repair, refuel, and transport situations, this non-exhaustive list of situations include:
 
Crashing and respawning
Surrogate sessions swapping places with your avatar
Someone leaving your space station unaware your ship is docked to theirs
Constructs getting stuck up in the air
 
This does not include:
Respawning inside your friends construct with no way out
Glitching under someone's base
Adjuster locks (get out and back into the pilots seat)
Disobeying the rules and NQ teleporting you to some moon 1,000 SU away with no ore/resources/constructs.
 
For any requests, we ask that you join our Discord server and submit a ticket and our dispatchers will help you find a rescuer to get you back up on your feet.
 
While NovaQuark is pulling back in support, Eyes & Ears is stepping forward as a player run solution to fill that void.

I feel people saying "hah you leave because of Discord" just do not understand how much Moco invested himself into making the largest community-then-official server a fluid and collegial option of communication for the whole playerbase of Dual Universe, of communication with themselves and with NQ.
 
Yama started it, but Moco made it go on despite the tremendous conditions and stakes, and some opportunities he created were not given the chance to blossom.
 
As a Discord mod and a Novean, I understand his decision but I'll miss him.

Here's my peace to add to this. Comrad's post brings up issues, but this is his final post.
 
He's been here since the beginning and this is his end. So, instead of a legacy of his final post being about issues, let me recount some of what he did.
 
He was there at the early start of the game. He was active on the forums, paving the way of discussion in the community. Comrad was invited to be apart of ATV, to be apart of this social game and the social aspects of this community. He made an org, a notch to call home for some time, before stepping up into greater aspects of the community. To be present in the time of memes(CSYN undoubtedly) and to be there at the end of others.
 
Comradmoco has helped this community greatly. He helped out and along with yamamushi helped make the Discord a community unlike any other in its hayday.
 
I must tell you all, Comradmoco has spent a great many numbers of hours helping out this community. The official discord, of which he has invested probably thousands of hours, is only the tip of the iceberg.
 
So, with all this in mind, I bid you farewell Comrad! May you find a greater project than this one to jump to o7

Since the ticket queue is bound to be overwhelmed, this is just a friendly little announcement that Eyes & Ears Search and Rescue is ready and able to accommodate players requests for situations that do not fall outside another players ability to assist. Aside from the typical rescue, repair, refuel, and transport situations, this non-exhaustive list of situations include:
 
Crashing and respawning
Surrogate sessions swapping places with your avatar
Someone leaving your space station unaware your ship is docked to theirs
Constructs getting stuck up in the air
 
This does not include:
Respawning inside your friends construct with no way out
Glitching under someone's base
Adjuster locks (get out and back into the pilots seat)
Disobeying the rules and NQ teleporting you to some moon 1,000 SU away with no ore/resources/constructs.
 
For any requests, we ask that you join our Discord server and submit a ticket and our dispatchers will help you find a rescuer to get you back up on your feet.
 
While NovaQuark is pulling back in support, Eyes & Ears is stepping forward as a player run solution to fill that void.

Since the ticket queue is bound to be overwhelmed, this is just a friendly little announcement that Eyes & Ears Search and Rescue is ready and able to accommodate players requests for situations that do not fall outside another players ability to assist. Aside from the typical rescue, repair, refuel, and transport situations, this non-exhaustive list of situations include:
 
Crashing and respawning
Surrogate sessions swapping places with your avatar
Someone leaving your space station unaware your ship is docked to theirs
Constructs getting stuck up in the air
 
This does not include:
Respawning inside your friends construct with no way out
Glitching under someone's base
Adjuster locks (get out and back into the pilots seat)
Disobeying the rules and NQ teleporting you to some moon 1,000 SU away with no ore/resources/constructs.
 
For any requests, we ask that you join our Discord server and submit a ticket and our dispatchers will help you find a rescuer to get you back up on your feet.
 
While NovaQuark is pulling back in support, Eyes & Ears is stepping forward as a player run solution to fill that void.

Since the ticket queue is bound to be overwhelmed, this is just a friendly little announcement that Eyes & Ears Search and Rescue is ready and able to accommodate players requests for situations that do not fall outside another players ability to assist. Aside from the typical rescue, repair, refuel, and transport situations, this non-exhaustive list of situations include:
 
Crashing and respawning
Surrogate sessions swapping places with your avatar
Someone leaving your space station unaware your ship is docked to theirs
Constructs getting stuck up in the air
 
This does not include:
Respawning inside your friends construct with no way out
Glitching under someone's base
Adjuster locks (get out and back into the pilots seat)
Disobeying the rules and NQ teleporting you to some moon 1,000 SU away with no ore/resources/constructs.
 
For any requests, we ask that you join our Discord server and submit a ticket and our dispatchers will help you find a rescuer to get you back up on your feet.
 
While NovaQuark is pulling back in support, Eyes & Ears is stepping forward as a player run solution to fill that void.

Since the ticket queue is bound to be overwhelmed, this is just a friendly little announcement that Eyes & Ears Search and Rescue is ready and able to accommodate players requests for situations that do not fall outside another players ability to assist. Aside from the typical rescue, repair, refuel, and transport situations, this non-exhaustive list of situations include:
 
Crashing and respawning
Surrogate sessions swapping places with your avatar
Someone leaving your space station unaware your ship is docked to theirs
Constructs getting stuck up in the air
 
This does not include:
Respawning inside your friends construct with no way out
Glitching under someone's base
Adjuster locks (get out and back into the pilots seat)
Disobeying the rules and NQ teleporting you to some moon 1,000 SU away with no ore/resources/constructs.
 
For any requests, we ask that you join our Discord server and submit a ticket and our dispatchers will help you find a rescuer to get you back up on your feet.
 
While NovaQuark is pulling back in support, Eyes & Ears is stepping forward as a player run solution to fill that void.

Bi-Weekly Update - February 1st, 2021
 
Two rescues were made over last two weeks of 2020, 82 for Beta 1 and 220 overall!
 
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HQ Work:
Further work has been completed on the HQ, most of it centered around the acquisition of two medium gates which has really allowed me to smoothen out the intricacies of sizing the building for the constructs it will be storing. Of course, this does limit the size of the medium constructs that we’ll be flying so this might necessitate an upgrade to a single large gate which while fiscally desirable, not only adjusts the sizing of the midsection of our HQ, but also the constructs as well. Here’s how those numbers turn out.
 
single large ----- 8x160x80
single medium - 8x120x80
double medium 8x120x160
 
Now, these gates are on their sides to maximize the height along the width of the gate, then doubled to provide the needed width.
 
This is just one example of why I’m a proponent of customizable height/length/width for some elements like gates, but that’s been discussed a few times to my knowledge and I don’t think any traction was gained on it. The static nature of elements is also why I advise people to think about the elements they want to build with as it will affect hulls, buildings, voxels, the amount of voxel material needed, etc.
 
As this will limit the constructs we’ll eventually fly, I’ve been considering a voxel-based door similar to ODY’s ‘doorzilla’ (you can view this in VR). While this allows a lot more customization, it requires two cores (front and back entrance) and is supplemented by the fact that gates are simply more expensive than a voxel-based door system. It’s something I’m going to ponder before purchasing the rear doors.
 
Last thing regarding the HQ, skylights! I’ve been watching Helios in Madis’ skies and will be positioning a multitude of openings in the roof and perhaps even down the walls to let in natural lighting while maintaining (or trying to) a cold and mechanical look. 100 large windows are all ready to be placed, with I believe another 300 in production. Let there be light!
 
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Organization Partnerships:
Since the previous update, Eyes & Ears has established two new partnerships:
 
The Adventurers Guild by @Sofetios will assist Eyes & Ears in work on Alioth. Anytime there is an abundance of work in that area, we’ll send requests their way. They’re geared towards new players and I thought it only well to give them and new players an additional point of connection through our networking.
 
Securion by @AstonAir will be helpful to the organization in a multitude of ways. They will be running security for Eyes & Ears, carrying weapons so we don’t have to, which is something I’m a stalwart fan of. In addition to security, we’re also being offered residence onboard their stations that will be in orbit above each planet. This will significantly accelerate our response times once we get official constructs as, despite my modest effort, work on our HQ as simple as it is has proven much slower than I anticipated.
 
Their generosity is also being extended through financial aid and repair services as a result of unprovoked PVP action against us. This has granted them a spot on our website’s “Sponsors” page and allows us to move into dangerous territory ever more confidently.
 
We will also be sharing intelligence between each other on potential hotspots throughout the universe as well as testing out a sort of insurance program. These last two bits are a little more on the scarce details side but it is something that should prove all the better as time goes on.
 
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Tidbits:
Have I heard bits and pieces of info from around DU or is something brewing in Eyes & Ears? I’ll post it here in my ‘Tidbits’ section. I hope readers find it a curious bit of information to wrap up these posts.
 
I’ve mentioned ‘official constructs’ several times over the course of this entire topic. By that I mean constructs specific and recognizable as belonging to Eyes & Ears. We will not be creating these internally but contracting them out to various ship designers in the form of a contest. I’m going over the specifications for each core size ship and have been adjusting things as DU unfolds. When will this contest happen you ask, we’ll find out as soon as I hear from NovaQuark.
 
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That's all for now, until next time, take care and fly safe everyone!
- DarkHorizon

Ahhh so that's why you lost. You were conned into wearing no pants?  
 
 

Ahhh so that's why you lost. You were conned into wearing no pants?  
 
 

Bi-Weekly Update - February 1st, 2021
 
Two rescues were made over last two weeks of 2020, 82 for Beta 1 and 220 overall!
 
-----
 
HQ Work:
Further work has been completed on the HQ, most of it centered around the acquisition of two medium gates which has really allowed me to smoothen out the intricacies of sizing the building for the constructs it will be storing. Of course, this does limit the size of the medium constructs that we’ll be flying so this might necessitate an upgrade to a single large gate which while fiscally desirable, not only adjusts the sizing of the midsection of our HQ, but also the constructs as well. Here’s how those numbers turn out.
 
single large ----- 8x160x80
single medium - 8x120x80
double medium 8x120x160
 
Now, these gates are on their sides to maximize the height along the width of the gate, then doubled to provide the needed width.
 
This is just one example of why I’m a proponent of customizable height/length/width for some elements like gates, but that’s been discussed a few times to my knowledge and I don’t think any traction was gained on it. The static nature of elements is also why I advise people to think about the elements they want to build with as it will affect hulls, buildings, voxels, the amount of voxel material needed, etc.
 
As this will limit the constructs we’ll eventually fly, I’ve been considering a voxel-based door similar to ODY’s ‘doorzilla’ (you can view this in VR). While this allows a lot more customization, it requires two cores (front and back entrance) and is supplemented by the fact that gates are simply more expensive than a voxel-based door system. It’s something I’m going to ponder before purchasing the rear doors.
 
Last thing regarding the HQ, skylights! I’ve been watching Helios in Madis’ skies and will be positioning a multitude of openings in the roof and perhaps even down the walls to let in natural lighting while maintaining (or trying to) a cold and mechanical look. 100 large windows are all ready to be placed, with I believe another 300 in production. Let there be light!
 
-----
 
Organization Partnerships:
Since the previous update, Eyes & Ears has established two new partnerships:
 
The Adventurers Guild by @Sofetios will assist Eyes & Ears in work on Alioth. Anytime there is an abundance of work in that area, we’ll send requests their way. They’re geared towards new players and I thought it only well to give them and new players an additional point of connection through our networking.
 
Securion by @AstonAir will be helpful to the organization in a multitude of ways. They will be running security for Eyes & Ears, carrying weapons so we don’t have to, which is something I’m a stalwart fan of. In addition to security, we’re also being offered residence onboard their stations that will be in orbit above each planet. This will significantly accelerate our response times once we get official constructs as, despite my modest effort, work on our HQ as simple as it is has proven much slower than I anticipated.
 
Their generosity is also being extended through financial aid and repair services as a result of unprovoked PVP action against us. This has granted them a spot on our website’s “Sponsors” page and allows us to move into dangerous territory ever more confidently.
 
We will also be sharing intelligence between each other on potential hotspots throughout the universe as well as testing out a sort of insurance program. These last two bits are a little more on the scarce details side but it is something that should prove all the better as time goes on.
 
-----
 
Tidbits:
Have I heard bits and pieces of info from around DU or is something brewing in Eyes & Ears? I’ll post it here in my ‘Tidbits’ section. I hope readers find it a curious bit of information to wrap up these posts.
 
I’ve mentioned ‘official constructs’ several times over the course of this entire topic. By that I mean constructs specific and recognizable as belonging to Eyes & Ears. We will not be creating these internally but contracting them out to various ship designers in the form of a contest. I’m going over the specifications for each core size ship and have been adjusting things as DU unfolds. When will this contest happen you ask, we’ll find out as soon as I hear from NovaQuark.
 
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That's all for now, until next time, take care and fly safe everyone!
- DarkHorizon

Hey there, Noveans!

As we ramp up for the next Dual Universe update, we wanted to begin sharing information about some of the interesting new features you can look forward to with the arrival of 0.24.
 
One of the key highlights of 0.24 is the Mission system, affording the movers and shakers an opportunity to, well, move and shake their way to a wealthier DU lifestyle. And who doesn’t love the delicious sound of quanta cascading in their coffers? ?
 
OUR MISSION

In listening to player feedback, we know that players have been looking for more ways to make money. The Mission system will provide those opportunities in a number of ways that suits a wide swath of playstyles and experience.
 
The intent of Mission system is to:
 
Offer new ways for players, especially new players, to make money. Allow merchants to focus on creating goods rather than spending time traveling to markets to sell their wares. Give those who enjoy traveling more than making things a lucrative reason to take to those beautiful, wide-open skies. Create more traffic in space, hence more opportunities for pirates. Help organizations to coordinate internal work.
  The long-term goal is to enrich the Mission system with more mission types, starting with “taxi” missions, SoS, and later adding PvP and various other “formalizable” activities. For now, we’re introducing the Mission system with transport-type hauling missions.

It all starts with the Mission Panel, a dedicated dashboard tab for job and hauling missions. It is equivalent to other dashboard tabs such as the organization dashboard tab. Within the Mission Panel, you’ll find the "Job Forum" section and the "Hauling" section. Each of these contains a similar page: a home page, a search page, a creation modal, etc.

THE JOB FORUM

The Job Forum allows players to create jobs with various specifications. (Please note that the UI for the Mission system is still in progress. The images below are samples of what it will look like.)


 
The upper part of the interface lists “Aphelia” jobs, which are created by Novaquark to provide information about game events, like discovering new wreck ships, etc.
Players can inspect job details in a dedicated window and engage in a conversation with the job issuer in a mini-chat integrated to the mission.


 
You will also find Aphelia (NPC) missions that will provide new ways of making money. And, lastly, issuers can limit their missions to fellow org members only as a way to keep transactions and missions in-house.

HAULING MISSIONS

These come with formal guarantees on the rewards, collaterals, time, etc. It is tightly-coupled with the possibility to create sell orders so that you can express your intention to sell a good on a distant market and simultaneously create a transport mission to arrange transport of the goods to the said market.
The definition of a hauling mission includes:
 
Start/end point + indication if this is in PvP zone or not. Collateral (lost by the mission responder if the mission is not completed). Time limit. Reward.
The game enforces these, picking the rewards and putting collateral in escrow when the mission is created. The content of the mission is to be retrieved either from a “mission container” (a new type of container dedicated to hauling missions, think of it as a mailbox) or from a market container. It is then stored as a package with the content hidden for the mission responder. (Opening the package voids the mission and the collateral is paid.) The package can be retrieved or delivered by interacting directly with the associated container (via context-menu entries) or within a 2km range by using the controls on the interface.

Failing a mission can occur if:
 
The responder does not deliver within the given time frame (including if the package is destroyed). The package is opened by either the responder or someone else (i.e. pirates). The destruction of the destination container does not fail the mission. Instead, the mission responder can keep the package and open it without penalty; however, this means the mission cannot be completed anymore.
  CAVEAT EMPTOR

What is important to remember is that negotiations about rewards, or even the job description and purpose, are entirely declarative and non-binding. It is there as a statement, made clear with various warnings and “Are you sure?” windows.
 
There’s often an element of danger involved when doing business. For some, the lure of pulling one over on an unsuspecting stranger has an even larger allure than the money to be made. Sure, you can scam sweet, trusting little lambs for a time, but eventually you’ll be the one to pay the price. Both the Job Forum and the Mission system have the possibility to rate the interaction for the issuer and the responder. Scores between 0 and 5 are attached to players as responders or issuers of missions (both formal and jobs), which will help to identify and potentially weed out scammers.
 
YOUR FIRST MISSION STARTS HERE

Your mission now, should you choose to accept it, is to head over to this section of the forums to share your thoughts about this devblog. Which do you anticipate doing the most: creating missions, doing missions, or pirating missions?

Bi-Weekly Update - January 15th, 2021
 
Three rescues were made over last two weeks of 2020, 80 for Beta 1 and 218 overall!
 
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HQ Work:
Raise the roof, or at least try to! It was a fairly quiet period since our last update, all work was spent on adding a roof so now we’re somewhat like a house and enclosed on all six sides. Some additional work will go into filling in the supports crisscrossing the roof and I’m thinking of some possible arch supports but that will likely take a good bit of voxel work. I’m also partial to the idea of natural lighting so I’ll be looking at placing some windows facing the sun, just need to figure out if I want that to be an extension from the roof, or somehow integrated more flatly into the roof.
 
I still think the place is big. I would likely try to see if I could hear myself echo, but I’m probably only thinking this because it’s still so empty. Once we get some constructs parked, it should appear more filled in. not necessarily ‘lively’, but purposeful. Four large cores, it’s just so much bigger than my single large core that I’m used to working with from back in alpha. And I thought that was spacious, it feels small in comparison. Small but deliberate. I think I’ll enjoy working on the planet outposts more than the current HQ.
 
I know, a roof, what joy is there in that, but that’s all there is for now. Not only was it slow for the org, but also myself. As an American, the changing (and ‘firey’ might I add) political landscape has stolen my attention from the game, Discord, and much of my online life in general. I’m still around popping up every now and again, but things have been pretty quiet as of late.
 
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I mentioned in the last update that there was work happening on the sidelines. Stuff has deepened on that front with stuff being discussed in more detail. Whether or not it’s being formalized and written down is yet to be seen as all agreements have been verbal with no signed documentation.
 
Stuff is happening and I should really get my butt in gear as it relates to other organizations and E&E, but for now, real life is the priority so I’ll let the opportunities find me for the time being.
 
That's all for now, until next time, take care and fly safe everyone!
- DarkHorizon

I know, I've been going on and on about making a race track for a while now. Well, the two tracks are all laid down now and ready for racing, time trials, illegal gambling and so forth. I can't even begin to describe the hours or explain why I would willingly do this to myself, but I think this is the kind of community that understands insane building projects so I don't fear too much judgement. Think I might quit DU now for a while. To the handful of people who kindly donated a bit of material here and there your names have been cemented into the foundations of the course at various points. 
 
-2 separate and complete race tracks covering 10 hexes on Alioth
 
-The scale of the tracks allows for high speed racing. I'm really excited for to see what kind of racers people dream up. 
 
-A restricted class cup and an unlimited builders cup could be something for the future. 
 
-Head to Head racing for quanta
 
-There are pit garages for sale on site for race teams.
 
-Land plots available for opening shops and markets for those with a plan, contact me.
 
 
As for the racing and physics, I think what is possible with a bit of practice is really pretty cool. Like a 2021 version of that old classic nintendo game F-Zero if anyone is as old as me.
 
A  lap preview of the two courses can be seen as raw footage here:
 
 
 
Here is the super cheesy awesome bit I slapped together.
 
 
 
 
The total materials if anyone is interested are approximated here:
 
Aluminium: Countless millions of litres
Concrete: quite a lot
Luminescent glass: a really serious quantity 
Alioth sand and rock : >2mil L
Madis soil: 200,000 L
Symeon soil: 190,000 L
L and M cores: more than 135
Time for construction: 3 months more or less
Quanta spent: all of it
 
 
VR Station is open : Melanuma Super Speedway race track - come visit and set a waypoint, then come race and build.

The title of this thread is also very much #fakenews
 
"Warp removing any risk from pvp needs to end."
 
Warp does not remove risk from PVP, it removes risk from being a non combatant because NQ has not yet brought anything into the game that would make the risk of slow boating worth it. As long as that does not happen warp is the only way to get around safe enough to make the trip worth it in many  cases. We're not here to be your cannon fodder. Go find people who are willing to engage you and stop trying to find kills in corners of the game you really only come looking if you do not want to actually risk much, if anything, yourself. 

And i find it funny how either oblivious or willfully ignorant you are that you think many of us are "anti-pvp" just because we dont agree with YOU or boo in general and instantly go into "cry moar carebears" mode. If you actully read our posts most of us are PRO pvp and would LOVE pvp content in the game, hell many of us crave it likey as much or more then YOU. However, we also would like there to BE a game to enjoy the pvp in and for there to be a POINT to the pvp aside from "lulz me r blew up teh noobs"
 
Your vision would not help the game and infact hurts it and quite badly.....at this time. Currently the game is not in a state where limiting options and forcing players into fights that they are likely to lose due to broken mechanics, balance issies, missing features and a SCORE of other problems is nothing but a negitive for the game. Right now we have exactly 3 flushed out mechanics. Mineing, building and flying. thats it.
 
Currently industry is broken as "only 10% of players" are supposed to use it, and while currently a determined player CAN force their way into it, the cost is so obscene that its a bad joke to new players. PvP is full of issues as noted by MANY players. There is really only 1 gameplay loop, mine to make stuff to mine more. There is zero reward to PvP aside from people like you getting to laugh as you destroy some poor carebear. And exploration is a bad joke right now especially considering how bloody long it takes and how limited most players who actully have a jobs time is. Compounding all of this is the fact there are ZERO counters to pvp that prey can use. No ECM, no jamming of radars to make targeting harder, no stealth fields, no powering down, nothing. The only solution is to build a space only warship or to jump.
 
If you then further restrict the game and start making it so travel and by extension industry and trade is even more restricted and gated off as well as blow up ships of players when getting started to begin with is already such a huge problem, then all you do is drive yet more players off. Especially with all the problems listed above, and in addition to there being no POINT to pvp. no reward no nothing. Even T4 and T5 mats are literally worthless as there is no point to them beyond fluff. No one is going to willingly risk hours or days of work for NOTHING and having it forced upon them makes them just say "to hell with this" and leave. 
 
Infact many of us have pointed out once these are addressed your idea would be much more viable and that we even AGREE warp is a problem that needs to be addressed LATER when the game has more loops, less bugs, more features, better PvP countermeasures, and more things to do in general ontop of a REASON to PvP and a reward worth the risk.
 
Then again as i said you boohoos dont care you just want to watch everything burn so you can shoot up some ships.

All I can envision when people talk about warp interdiction is gank squads sitting around cackling about nuking any ship that warps in. Whats that players alternative? Oh yeah slow boat hours of RL time to get to a planet to still be intercepted by the gank squad, or add hours to try and maneuver around to come at the planet from non traditional travel lanes.
 
There is no simple solution here thats going to be palatable to the general player base. I would much rather see warp removed entirely and max speed cap be removed. My guess is the server tech simply cannot handle ships moving that fast which is largely why warp works the way it does.
 
If you want warp to require risk by dropping outside of safe zones etc , then weapon ranges should be dramatically reduced to allow some chance for a ship to out maneuver another and escape a fight. ECM or other defensive measure need to be added to under such a scenario.
 
You don't solve the lack of PvP by simply turning unsafe space into gank town.   

The following is strictly my opinion. I hold absolutely no weight inside NQ nor do I believe I have any influence over their decision making. I also do not claim to know about what goes on behind the scenes as far as decisions are made. Alpha Team Vanguard is the furthest extent of my knowledge that could be considered outside the public eye.
 
TLDR at the bottom.
 
 
No wipe until after beta and before release or unless there is something seriously holding the game back from further development. Those are the only scenarios where I see it acceptable to perform a full wipe and planet reset.
 
I also maintain my position that a subscription beta was a terrible idea and that whomever put it forward may have put Dual Universe and by extension NovaQuark in jeopardy. I don't say it to be dramatic, but if we were still in an alpha like state where people simply bought into the testing phase and with BIG LETTERS told to expect things like bugs, glitches, incomplete content, and the occasional wipe, I feel it would have better set expectations and people would be way more tempered in their opinions.
 
We should be beta TESTING, a 'soft launch' should have never, ever been in the cards regardless of the financial situation. When I heard NQ stating that we'd be 'soft launching', I immediately questioned what happened to NQ's interoperation of the alpha and beta phases being proper test phases and not things like steam early access where the game was basically 'released' while not actually in its release (v1.0) state.
 
How NQ handles its ATV team is regrettable. I don't feel like an advance tester with an opinion that will be considered along with fellow ATV testers. Suggestions for how these test s should be handled in various instances have gone unanswered for months or are given some half solution that doesn't do much in the way of assisting with the testing process, hence my involvement in said testing is minimal.
 
If I was not leading my own organization.
If I was not a lifetime subscription holder.
If I was not ATV.
If I was not a moderator of the official discord.
 
I don't think I'd be here right now. Yeah, weird flex on basically the entire community I know, don't tell me.
 
All of that (somehow) fell into my lap because I was here for the kickstarter, and every time I log in, I wonder 'why me'? All I saw was a great game that I really wanted to be a part of. You beta testers that just plopped $20 down probably see those four things as a lot to loose and to some, maybe it is. Now flip that view and see things from my perspective, for all you beta testers with only $20 on the line and nothing to loose except enough for dinner for one, a few months time, and even some hopes and dreams, I'm surprised more of you haven't left already. If I was a new tester and was VR'ing around and looking at all the amazing stuff people have already created, forget the economics of it all. If all that was subject to a wipe from players that felt like they were behind the curve, I wouldn't bother subscribing until after release.
 
Ever since beta launched, we've been bumbling and stumbling around like drunks after last call.
 
I am forgiving of all the bugs we're experiencing. Alpha has sharpened me on that. Beta has not turned out how I thought it would. To be fair, alpha didn't either, but we're beyond that now... aren't we?
 
Am I dissapointed, yes. Am I still here though, yeah, I am. Do I have my complaints and grievances, I do. Will I air them, sure, if NovaQuark wants to hear them, most definitely. Do I think they'll listen, to me or anyone else, no.
 
Hope yall enjoyed my word vomit, that's all it probably is anyways. Cheers.
 
 
TLDR:
I think I'm a sepshul person in the community? (atv, discord mod, lifetime sub...... somehow)
Beta is a catastrophe
I'm unhappy with NQ and ATV
Things would be different if we were still testing and not a paid beta
NQ said alpha and beta would be proper testing phases and not early access

The following is strictly my opinion. I hold absolutely no weight inside NQ nor do I believe I have any influence over their decision making. I also do not claim to know about what goes on behind the scenes as far as decisions are made. Alpha Team Vanguard is the furthest extent of my knowledge that could be considered outside the public eye.
 
TLDR at the bottom.
 
 
No wipe until after beta and before release or unless there is something seriously holding the game back from further development. Those are the only scenarios where I see it acceptable to perform a full wipe and planet reset.
 
I also maintain my position that a subscription beta was a terrible idea and that whomever put it forward may have put Dual Universe and by extension NovaQuark in jeopardy. I don't say it to be dramatic, but if we were still in an alpha like state where people simply bought into the testing phase and with BIG LETTERS told to expect things like bugs, glitches, incomplete content, and the occasional wipe, I feel it would have better set expectations and people would be way more tempered in their opinions.
 
We should be beta TESTING, a 'soft launch' should have never, ever been in the cards regardless of the financial situation. When I heard NQ stating that we'd be 'soft launching', I immediately questioned what happened to NQ's interoperation of the alpha and beta phases being proper test phases and not things like steam early access where the game was basically 'released' while not actually in its release (v1.0) state.
 
How NQ handles its ATV team is regrettable. I don't feel like an advance tester with an opinion that will be considered along with fellow ATV testers. Suggestions for how these test s should be handled in various instances have gone unanswered for months or are given some half solution that doesn't do much in the way of assisting with the testing process, hence my involvement in said testing is minimal.
 
If I was not leading my own organization.
If I was not a lifetime subscription holder.
If I was not ATV.
If I was not a moderator of the official discord.
 
I don't think I'd be here right now. Yeah, weird flex on basically the entire community I know, don't tell me.
 
All of that (somehow) fell into my lap because I was here for the kickstarter, and every time I log in, I wonder 'why me'? All I saw was a great game that I really wanted to be a part of. You beta testers that just plopped $20 down probably see those four things as a lot to loose and to some, maybe it is. Now flip that view and see things from my perspective, for all you beta testers with only $20 on the line and nothing to loose except enough for dinner for one, a few months time, and even some hopes and dreams, I'm surprised more of you haven't left already. If I was a new tester and was VR'ing around and looking at all the amazing stuff people have already created, forget the economics of it all. If all that was subject to a wipe from players that felt like they were behind the curve, I wouldn't bother subscribing until after release.
 
Ever since beta launched, we've been bumbling and stumbling around like drunks after last call.
 
I am forgiving of all the bugs we're experiencing. Alpha has sharpened me on that. Beta has not turned out how I thought it would. To be fair, alpha didn't either, but we're beyond that now... aren't we?
 
Am I dissapointed, yes. Am I still here though, yeah, I am. Do I have my complaints and grievances, I do. Will I air them, sure, if NovaQuark wants to hear them, most definitely. Do I think they'll listen, to me or anyone else, no.
 
Hope yall enjoyed my word vomit, that's all it probably is anyways. Cheers.
 
 
TLDR:
I think I'm a sepshul person in the community? (atv, discord mod, lifetime sub...... somehow)
Beta is a catastrophe
I'm unhappy with NQ and ATV
Things would be different if we were still testing and not a paid beta
NQ said alpha and beta would be proper testing phases and not early access