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Tjo schade, aber in einer Beta kann halt alles passieren, hättest Du ab und an mal die News gelesen, wär das nicht passiert.
Und der Handscanner ist nicht nutzlos, schließlich gibt es Asteroiden auf denen man minern kann. Ausserdem wurden sie Skillpunkte dafür ja resettest, enn du kein a<stromining betreiben willst, hättest ja auch wo anders investieren können. 14 Tägige zahlungen? Du kannst dein Tile auf dem die Mining Units stehen für 13 Wochen im Voraus bezahlen!!!!!!!
 
Oh ich seh grad der BEitrag ist schon was älter, glaube kaum dass du noch mal reinschaust, aber ich muss mal meinen Frust loswerden über das gemecker der leute, die sich nicht informieren, Beta speilen und denken Sie bekommen ein vollwertiges Spiel in dem nichts mehr geändert wird. Dann Spielt halt keine Beta!
 
Und ja Ich habe noch Spass am Spiel, wenn ich nicht grad Forum lese ......
 
 

Wont play again, so it doesnt affect me. Keep your Blueprints. 
But wipe everything else is not fair, this should be crystal clear. 
 
To prefer one playstyle over another is not good.
 
If fairness is really a goal, they should wipe everything or nothing. 
 
 

wow, i can keep my bluebrints, thy....i have no blueprints, i have bought ships, buildings, all have drm. I have invested 20 billion quanta in schematics....
 
im a dealer, mission flyer, and i do factory, so i can start from square 0 and buy the ships and buildings again, lol.
 
do a full wipe or no wipe, thats fair for all.
 
and pls say something, what you have planned for the health of the economy, for the oversupply of ores, for  the unnessesary to fly to asteroids.
why you plan to introduce a scrambler bringing components  out of destroyed things back instead of ore? componets can use only a few ppl, ores are better to use or to sell.

thy for open communication.

AND what day would that be when you could give us "more concrete" news on a reset???? Could you perhaps tell us that??? Yall are trying to address the problem without addressing the problem, and every time you release a statement that is not an answer to the wipe but  another "we are still discussing it" you prove that point. Once again you have released a statement that is no statement. I have been a subscriber since the first beta weekend and have never been more frustrated. I know there are plenty of people who have supported this game longer but I think most of us want to know that answer to only one question more than any other. You are looking to things that will release when? after launch? before launch? that wasn't answered. I finally canceled auto renewal on all three of my accounts because there IS NO POINT IN PLAYING when we don't know the future or even about when these plans will be in place. I would love to play this game with my friends when we have a goal. but as long as the "reset" (wipe) is uncertain there is no goal I can think of that may or may not be wiped. 
 
You may not care but you will get no more money from me until you answer those questions. 
I have never spent more time on a game than I have with DU and this is so frustrating and upsetting. I am not yelling as I type, just sad. 

So to be productiv, not depressive :

Voice quality of answering ppl is lousy.
 
T5 Ores are to much, all ores are to much. Pls NQ find something that uses more ore, expecially T5.
 
One Idea was to go to player driven Schematics, and i you want to produce a t3 schematic, you have to destroy x t2 schematics, that uses ores. And if schematics are not permanantly
e.x. only for xxxxxxx uses you have to craft them again, and it uses ores again.
 
Other solution : Take out t4 and t5 ores from planets, so players have a reason to fly to asteroids or to aliencores.
 
there are many ideas but do something for the econmy!

So to be productiv, not depressive :

Voice quality of answering ppl is lousy.
 
T5 Ores are to much, all ores are to much. Pls NQ find something that uses more ore, expecially T5.
 
One Idea was to go to player driven Schematics, and i you want to produce a t3 schematic, you have to destroy x t2 schematics, that uses ores. And if schematics are not permanantly
e.x. only for xxxxxxx uses you have to craft them again, and it uses ores again.
 
Other solution : Take out t4 and t5 ores from planets, so players have a reason to fly to asteroids or to aliencores.
 
there are many ideas but do something for the econmy!

important questions for me:

1. whipe : yes/no, when
2. new roadmap?
3. what new game loops are coming soon?
4. what do you do for economy healing (consumption?!)
5. schematics what is your plan?

if you think i pay until december whithout knowing if wipe, youre wrong. Only reason i am here , there is no other mmorpg i am interested in yet.

important questions for me:

1. whipe : yes/no, when
2. new roadmap?
3. what new game loops are coming soon?
4. what do you do for economy healing (consumption?!)
5. schematics what is your plan?

if you think i pay until december whithout knowing if wipe, youre wrong. Only reason i am here , there is no other mmorpg i am interested in yet.

important questions for me:

1. whipe : yes/no, when
2. new roadmap?
3. what new game loops are coming soon?
4. what do you do for economy healing (consumption?!)
5. schematics what is your plan?

if you think i pay until december whithout knowing if wipe, youre wrong. Only reason i am here , there is no other mmorpg i am interested in yet.

combat free timer after win a defence for 1 week!

combat free timer after win a defence for 1 week!

maybe NQ should go to politik, consult over weeks and months....Simply ridiculous and stalling tactics to now still collect the money to wipe and release.
How can it be that in 8 years of development the game is so unfinished, has no one from NQ fantasy or played other games?

combat free timer after win a defence for 1 week!

Alien core can be a good feature... If only players really need to fight for them, let me show you what we will really have 99% of the time:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1480246940
(No sound because of comms, sorry)

Why defend a station is a waste of ressources and time?
- Shields are too low, we can't wait for our ennemies before moving
- So we will need to travel 300SU+ or warp our entire fleet each time we have to defend, even for nothing
- Ship aren't protected when dock on a station with a shield (??) - This can help ppl with lot of job/kids or else to setup their ship when they can
- If we take at least 2 core we have to defend an alien core each day
- If we want to attack, we add another timer where we need to be, again it can be each day
- Why we don't have a combat free timer after we win a defense?

With your wipe talk without ANY DECISION, with your patch against any PVP mechanic or method, a big nocare about some of the oldest bugs known in DU... We don't have any other content outside of alien core in PVP now.
We send plenty of idea/feedback for a better PVP or more confortable, we tryhard each PTS for help, report each bug/exploit find even if that lead to another nerf of our content
How can we keep our players hype for Dual Universe?
Why NQ stay so quiet? (Entropy did a nice feedback but only around voxels and shields for PVP but some other part are missed)

Our ennemies got the same problem, maybe more because we are really lucky to have so many ppl still active on DU. Don't kill your game, listen us, don't stay focus on your ideas if everyone say it's not the good way and talk with your community.

Lack of communication for the past 3 weeks regarding the wipe/no wipe has left many of us unsure of what to next.
 
How can you talk about the potential wipe details and then say nothing for 3 weeks. Now you respond with this and still say nothing useful about the wipe.
 
Then you talk about having a podcast to answer questions.
 
The only question everyone wants answered right now is "What are the wipe details and do I get to keep my talent points?"
 
 

after a short period of consideration:
Full wipe or no wipe are two legit options, but nothing in the middle.
 
( if a wipe should occure, no BP or magic BP should be created.  This would create a disadvantage for people without "famous" names/BP's)
 

TL;DR:
1) Don't remove schematics.
2) I'd prefer to NOT wipe

1) Schematics:
Schematics are one of the best things ever added to the game.
The market basically didn't exist until the addition of schematics. The market is thriving specifically because schematics exist. One of the core ideas for DU from the very beginning was to have role differentiation; schematics push players to specialize their factories - which, in turn, leads to the aforementioned thriving market. Longevity. Schematics take time to acquire. Without them, some players would reach "endgame" within a couple months, get bored, and leave. Schematics add that longevity that an MMO desperately needs. Travel, or "exploration"; schematics require a player to travel to distance planets to obtain, encouraging them to play the game - the space travel adventure - instead of sitting in their solo base all day. Don't remove schematics, not unless you have something better that fills the role.

2) Thoughts on a Wipe:
Pros:
Fresh start. Easy way to address longstanding "ill-gotten gains" Level[ish] playing field for all players. Cons:
Destruction of a thriving, mature economy. Crushing of older, avid players' hopes and dreams (and time and effort) As others have pointed out, there have been numerous NQ comments throughout the beta phase strongly implying that there will be no wipe. Backtracking on those will be seen in a very bad light. I kind of have always anticipated a wipe before release, because I see the game as changing and evolving, and "cleaning house" before release just makes sense. I've started over many times since pre-alpha, I can do so again. It won't bother me. But the majority of players that I play with and interact with regularly have far more at stake than I do. Several of them won't come back if there's a wipe. Some of them are on hiatus until this is confirmed - one way or the other - because as it stands, it's not worth it to them spending any more time or money if it's just going to be wiped.

A strong, mature economy is a core part of DU right now, obliterating that will have serious consequences to the ultimate success of the game. As long as schematics remain, that economy should rebuild fairly quickly after a wipe. Without schematics... there won't be much of an economy and new players won't stick around. DU will have lost many longtime veterans to the wipe, and left a world empty and deserted for the new players, who will also leave.
 
Schematics need to stay. Unless they can be replaced by something equally important to the economy and longevity of the game.
And if that's the main reason for wanting to wipe... it's a colossally bad idea. Probably the death nail for the game.

I have never read a bigger pile of one-sided bullsh*t basically advocating for full wipe in order to easily do away with schematics.  Just announce the decision and get it over with.

At beginning of beta it was announced "no more wipes except as required for updates" (like the mining update that was done).  So if NQ do decide to wipe, it would be yet another promise broken.  This also completely ignores that people have been paying monthly to play...

As for "removing unfair advantage" and "level playing field". These are fallacies to help people sleep better at night.  The players with the know how will return to the positions of abundance they have now in short order.   There will always be "haves" and "have nots".   All a wipe does is a slap in the face of the people that put time into the game after being told a wipe would not happen.
 
Make a system that creates schematics rather than remove them.  The problem with schematics, like the markets, is that they do not give player agency.  A player cannot make a schematic at all, they have to be bought.  Make science research a thing.

Cons for wipe have already been mentioned:   As I said, the "NQ thoughts" are heavily aligned to a wipe disregarding promises and small details like leaving an empty world, avid supporters of the game just leave, and paying customers just get their stuff removed.  

What a wipe also does is remove the history of DU such as it is... like Thoramine.  Deleting a piece of DU history like that is unforgivable.

If a full wipe does happen, I'm gone.

I have relied on the fact that NQ has said that a wipe is only the last resort.
 
So I have invested as much time as I could in the last months, procured Quantas and Blueprints. Other players were creative and spent months building their buildings/ships.
I don't give a shit about the players who have enriched themselves in some illegalway, but why should the community suffer?
 
The market can still be brought in order, only need is a consumption here (except fuel).  Be it about the elements that break down, factories that lose efficiency or the like. Also, you could insert a Recykler, where you get a small l share of ore in return from broken parts.
 
It's nice that there should be an Aphelia Space market, I would much rather see player markets, where you can log in from your location.
 
Just my 2 cents
 

lets see how many alts you sponsor if beta ends.

the question is not how many players you lose through a wipe, but how many new players NQ can gain through a wipe.

It's funny what players sometimes have for thought processes.
The limitation of the core slots is of course for the future and completely independent of whether a wipe comes or not.

the question is not how many players you lose through a wipe, but how many new players NQ can gain through a wipe.

the question is not how many players you lose through a wipe, but how many new players NQ can gain through a wipe.

just adding my point of view, dont care if you disagree.  If they full wipe, i am out.  

The only partial wipe i could stand is if they leave my BP(dont have to be magic), my talent points, my SCHEMATICS, and give alpha players 48 hrs play time before opening up servers for everyone else. I know many dont agree with schematics but i have spent many hours playing honestly buying those silly things and i wont do it again.  Plus i have designed many ships and sold bp to those ships which if they wipe and you can keep bp, it will be like stealing my designs because the people i sold to will already have the bp but i will be stripped of my money (which i have converted into schematics).  Plus many players have brought me their ships to fix voxels and customize,  these people will keep my modifications, but i again loose everything as i will be striped of money/schematics.
 
I dont agree to the philosophy of "if you cant figure out who did something wrong, punish everyone".  I have played this game honestly and dont think i deserve to be punished. They had said they would not wipe again unless absolutely necessary.  Most of the things people mention here about reasons to wipe can ALL be fixed in other methods, which means a wipe is not necessary for any of those reasons.  The only necessary reasons would be if data gets corrupted, or major programing issues that cant be fixed ANY other way.  
 
I just dont understand the whole reason people think everyone should be even.  there will always be players with more money/stuff then others.  the only thing a wipe will do is possibly change who those players are. Yes some cheated to get into being rich, but who is to say it wont happen again after a wipe, and honestly for the average player who cares who is the richest player or how they got there.  There is no limit to the number of people who can be rich in a game like DU.  If being rich is important to you , then spend the time and you can eventually be one of the wealthy. 
 
the abandoned buildings that some complain about can easily be removed without a NEED for a wipe, so this is no reason for a wipe.
 
and some say that a wipe is just normal for any game when moving from beta to full release,  But DU started charging fees for beta, which makes this not a Normal game development.  Once you start charging fees, you are already in a psuedo release state and so a wipe should not be done unless Absolutely necessary.