Xennial

Your arguments might carry weight if you had ANY proof at all of the extent of the schematic sale fiasco. But your just pulling numbers out of thin air to support your own view that 'it doesn't matter' . 

None of this actually ends in a healthy game world we can all enjoy. Let me add another option:
 
They could stone up and say there will be a full wipe near end of Beta where players can retain skill points only. Pretso chango , now people won't care to terribly much what they screw up along they way, and they can stop with all this secretive ATV insiders nonsense because who cares what people know is coming in a test environment Ah, and of course they would promise that after that wipe the ATV or insiders test server will be abandoned in favor of the public test server and the company will never give handouts to any players on the live servers be they streamers or best friends or whatever.
 
Then they can also make sure to give streamers goodies or handouts on the test server (so it doesn't affect the live server) to do their periodic "whats coming in DU" promo videos and whatnot. Aside from the few streamers that run orgs in the live game or whatever, most will only sweep in for major updates and move on anyway.

None of this actually ends in a healthy game world we can all enjoy. Let me add another option:
 
They could stone up and say there will be a full wipe near end of Beta where players can retain skill points only. Pretso chango , now people won't care to terribly much what they screw up along they way, and they can stop with all this secretive ATV insiders nonsense because who cares what people know is coming in a test environment Ah, and of course they would promise that after that wipe the ATV or insiders test server will be abandoned in favor of the public test server and the company will never give handouts to any players on the live servers be they streamers or best friends or whatever.
 
Then they can also make sure to give streamers goodies or handouts on the test server (so it doesn't affect the live server) to do their periodic "whats coming in DU" promo videos and whatnot. Aside from the few streamers that run orgs in the live game or whatever, most will only sweep in for major updates and move on anyway.

This is just yet another avoidable repeat of what happens when a company is incapable of acting professionally towards it's customer base. Anyone thats been around the game world awhile has seen this scenario play itself out in EA games before. I would be surprised if they didn't have enough funding to carry them through this year, otherwise they probably would care more about what I would guess is the majority of players being free accounts.
 
I like this game a lot. It highly disappoints me to see a game developer make such a glaring mistake in how it handles what should be a common sense response to a problem they created. This was not some unpopular game design thing that can be argued to be better for the game as a whole. This was a patch to their reputation , and it got nerfed.  
 

This is just yet another avoidable repeat of what happens when a company is incapable of acting professionally towards it's customer base. Anyone thats been around the game world awhile has seen this scenario play itself out in EA games before. I would be surprised if they didn't have enough funding to carry them through this year, otherwise they probably would care more about what I would guess is the majority of players being free accounts.
 
I like this game a lot. It highly disappoints me to see a game developer make such a glaring mistake in how it handles what should be a common sense response to a problem they created. This was not some unpopular game design thing that can be argued to be better for the game as a whole. This was a patch to their reputation , and it got nerfed.  
 

A simple commitment to a full wipe at or near end of Beta should be no issue then. Gives them complete flexibility to alter how the game works and screw up before the 'no wipe' period starts where they need to be ultra careful about their system in place to protect from this stuff they developed during this 'beta' test.

Allowing magic blueprints to respawn stuff would just carry forward the exploits. People would just pack constructs with honeycomb , elements etc so they can just respawn their wealth instantly. Talent points are a fine carry forward as those are just a time sink. Empty blueprints so once you acquire the materials you can reproduce your creative work without having to redo all the voxelmancy etc is fine too.
 
If they have the professionalism to wipe , then they should do it simply by allowing blueprints (not magical) , talent points to carry forward. If they want to keep the premise of a player run economy they should drop the ore/item bots as well forever only leaving schematic selling bots (they could adjust schematic pricing to better reflect that new less inflated by bots world). Bots however are their own topic and generally outside the scope of WHY they need to commit to a wipe at some point in Beta.
 
NQ allowing this exploit to go on unanswered in a no wipe scenario is flat out unacceptable. They should have rolled back immediately. Failing that they should have taken immediate action to remove ill gotten schematics. Failing that they now need to schedule and openly declare there will be a wipe at some point in beta with a commitment that any future problems like this will be handled correctly. 

Allowing magic blueprints to respawn stuff would just carry forward the exploits. People would just pack constructs with honeycomb , elements etc so they can just respawn their wealth instantly. Talent points are a fine carry forward as those are just a time sink. Empty blueprints so once you acquire the materials you can reproduce your creative work without having to redo all the voxelmancy etc is fine too.
 
If they have the professionalism to wipe , then they should do it simply by allowing blueprints (not magical) , talent points to carry forward. If they want to keep the premise of a player run economy they should drop the ore/item bots as well forever only leaving schematic selling bots (they could adjust schematic pricing to better reflect that new less inflated by bots world). Bots however are their own topic and generally outside the scope of WHY they need to commit to a wipe at some point in Beta.
 
NQ allowing this exploit to go on unanswered in a no wipe scenario is flat out unacceptable. They should have rolled back immediately. Failing that they should have taken immediate action to remove ill gotten schematics. Failing that they now need to schedule and openly declare there will be a wipe at some point in beta with a commitment that any future problems like this will be handled correctly. 

*Waits for the weeks of silence from NQ before they start hyping their next big patch while pretending this never happened*

Allowing magic blueprints to respawn stuff would just carry forward the exploits. People would just pack constructs with honeycomb , elements etc so they can just respawn their wealth instantly. Talent points are a fine carry forward as those are just a time sink. Empty blueprints so once you acquire the materials you can reproduce your creative work without having to redo all the voxelmancy etc is fine too.
 
If they have the professionalism to wipe , then they should do it simply by allowing blueprints (not magical) , talent points to carry forward. If they want to keep the premise of a player run economy they should drop the ore/item bots as well forever only leaving schematic selling bots (they could adjust schematic pricing to better reflect that new less inflated by bots world). Bots however are their own topic and generally outside the scope of WHY they need to commit to a wipe at some point in Beta.
 
NQ allowing this exploit to go on unanswered in a no wipe scenario is flat out unacceptable. They should have rolled back immediately. Failing that they should have taken immediate action to remove ill gotten schematics. Failing that they now need to schedule and openly declare there will be a wipe at some point in beta with a commitment that any future problems like this will be handled correctly. 

Thats fine , and a pre release wipe is actually expected by most people I talk with and they are fine with it too. Paying for early access to a game is common place. If they don't wipe before release then then this IS release. I'm curious how many people want to play a release product where the game company handles screw up / exploits like this ? 

The only professional response left at this point is to promise a full wipe at the end of Beta. If they are going to let exploits like this just 'go' then it has to be wrapped in the bubble of a beta world that will be fully cleaned before release. At this point the only wipe that would matter is one where people only get to keep talent points, and perhaps empty blueprints. Any magical BP's that allow people to spawn in items immediately , or otherwise keep highly exploited in game items / wealth will be simply unacceptable to a lot of people.
 
I can only imagine at some point they want a game world populated by paying customers. If anyone asked me if I would recommend this game my answer now would be hell no, followed by a list of all the exploitive nonsense NQ has let fly during this Beta. If there is no wipe then this game is already in 'release' and not Beta. If this is an example of how NQ will handle major screw ups or exploits in a release product their reputation is going to continue to nose dive.

The only professional response left at this point is to promise a full wipe at the end of Beta. If they are going to let exploits like this just 'go' then it has to be wrapped in the bubble of a beta world that will be fully cleaned before release. At this point the only wipe that would matter is one where people only get to keep talent points, and perhaps empty blueprints. Any magical BP's that allow people to spawn in items immediately , or otherwise keep highly exploited in game items / wealth will be simply unacceptable to a lot of people.
 
I can only imagine at some point they want a game world populated by paying customers. If anyone asked me if I would recommend this game my answer now would be hell no, followed by a list of all the exploitive nonsense NQ has let fly during this Beta. If there is no wipe then this game is already in 'release' and not Beta. If this is an example of how NQ will handle major screw ups or exploits in a release product their reputation is going to continue to nose dive.

*Waits for the weeks of silence from NQ before they start hyping their next big patch while pretending this never happened*

*Waits for the weeks of silence from NQ before they start hyping their next big patch while pretending this never happened*

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.

*Waits for the weeks of silence from NQ before they start hyping their next big patch while pretending this never happened*

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.

The only thing that saves this burning dumpster fire besides removing all ill gotten schematics or a rollback is to flat come out now and say there will be a full wipe before release. Seriously NQ, you need to own this one way or the other. Either tell us all it doesn't matter cause it's all getting nuked downed the road anyway, or act like professionals and fix it.