ELX987

https://board.dualthegame.com/index.php?/topic/22123-mining-efficiency-5-talent-likely-adds-zero-per-level/
 
 
Also: The daily quanta login screen blocks the "back to the surface ..." event from triggering. This means that if you fall through the surface on login, and the daily quanta screen is up, you will continue to fall until you click "ok". The effects of this can be interesting: if you continue falling, then by inspecting the altimeter and speed you can see that you will eventually oscillate around the centre of the planet (no interaction with the planet "core" that is in the game proper). When you finally get bored and click "ok" on the daily quanta screen, you'll be teleported to the surface of the tile that you are in. Of course, if you've oscillated to the other side of the centre of the planet you'll appear exactly on the other side of the planet to the one you started on. Free teleporting!

We already have it. NQ. They don't live with us. The look at the world from another dimension.

Last updated July 13th  2022


As reporting a bug usually is a process with no feedback and as picking talents usually means hoping they actually work, here is a public bug list. If you want anything added, please describe them clearly. No need to be salty towards me, I am just the salty guy who wants them fixed or at least known, too.
Do not spread exploits. There are plenty of exploits, I would love to make them all public for a level playing field, but it is against the TOS. So as I want to keep my list, please no exploit talk at all!
 
 
 
Talent related:
 
Crafting

-plenty of text is wrong, like exceptional parts manufacturer claiming to decrease crafting time for functional parts, it works however. 
-[tier] product refining description is for honeycomb, but works . 
 
Piloting
 
-increasing foil lift via piloting talents (not handling) do not change sustentation speed(with full talents your true sust speed is therefore 82% of what is displayed)
 
 
Gameplay related
 
Industry/crafting
 
 
-So many more unknown server errors leading to random machine stops, especially after maintenance
-HC nanocrafter inconsistencies, like galvanized black iron can not be nanocrafted
-t2+ Hovers and Boosters have the schematic price|craft duration|assembler need|materials needed of the of the one bigger version. In other words, while basic verts and hovers L cost as much as an M engine, t2+hovers and boosters L cost as much as an L engine of the same tier. Likely caused by the mixed naming conventions for all elements
 
Ships/piloting
 
-Diagonal (as seen from the front) elements add crosssection based on their max coordinates they cover. As in, the game checks the difference between their highest and lowest X value, highest and lowest Z value, multiplies them, and that is the cross section of the element. In simpler terms: If you place a wing diagonally, in order to get a little lift and a little stabilization, it has as much cross section as an upright, rectangular box that covers it. 
-Elements also have different cross section depending on where exactly they are, a horizontal Wing S does not add to cross section if placed on a z coordinate ending on .5   
-configuring pilot seat resets connections and autoconnects different parts. Sadly never my gyro. 
-When the default configuring has too many possible links, it states it skips autoconnection, but instead just connects as much as it can and then continues. I wish it actually did skip auto connect.
-Airbrakes produce a down (relative to craft) force when active. To repro, just glide down while holding brakes and pitch down about 45° (brakeland, while facing downwards).
-Cruise control can hold retro brake active at close to zero speed, compared to holding breakes manually (test by comparing normal brake holding, 6km over Alioth, vs cruise control set to zero). 
-Collisions with environment are checked client side, same for mass of construct, position etc.
-As long as you are above 3420meter (space engine can activate) and 6270 meters (space engine generally can be active at 100%) your space engines only generate as much power, as your atmo engines facing the same direction have max power. Cruise control does not have the issue. (numbers used for Alioth)
-G-values in build helper do not factor in docked constructs
-the build helper function that shows blind passengers can be bypassed
-Landing with a tilted core craft which has a docked construct often leads to fun explosions.
 
 
Trade/markets
 
-Notifications do not include size of item (can be found in the log though, press "O"). 
-"View market page" only works for items in the market container
 
Other UI

-Setting something as destination while in VR often gives wrong position once out of VR.
-opening a notification log with more than 10k entries freezes the game for seconds, it re-freezes every time a new notifaction pops up while notifications still open, until you finally manage to set it to "last 24h" or similar.
Update, notifications now get auto deleted regulary.
-Bookmarks, pffff. Somebody ping me if they properly work, I will stop checking.
-trying to put something into a full container displays message "not enough space in active container"
 
 
Other
 
-using a LUA parameter with a decimal comma instead of decimal point (damn Germans) will ignore the comma and the numbers behind it, run normal otherwise but the LUA parameter will not be displayed anymore to be edited, as the the whole export part is skipped, too. (LUA issue, not DU specific, DU should still throw an error). 
-canopy windshield triangle M and L have wrong mass and volume. 
-"brick product" is called "brick honeycomb"
-VR Stations, gunner or pilot seats, get stuck on "in use" and can not be used anymore. Ask a GM in the help channel or try this: place a fresh seat, enter it, alt+f4, log in again.
-Not being allowed to board a construct may keep you from coming close enough to rightclick-report it.
-Linked container fluctuates out of range if you have no talents (or in vr), even well within the 250 meters, if you are on the same construct as the container. Workaround: Have a dynamic core with a container to link to, at your base.
-Nanopack volume talent works in VR
-Some ships in the flight challenge have full buffs, not sure if intended.
-Elements deactivated for supposed clipping often re-"clip" after maintencance, or if a copy is made via blueprint.
 
 
Mining
 
-Multiple people mining the same spot causes errors
 
Technical issues
 
Account/Billing
 
-revoked keys and gametime run out show error 106 on log in
 
Performance
 
Game hugs all RAM sooner or later, client has to wait for server info to be allowed to show frames, aka, framerate stutters at idle GPU.
 
Settings

-Borderless can not be stretched to cover a full screen with game resolution set smaller than screen resolution. Workaround: Set screen to reolution you want to run DU at.

we should replace the login screen with this topic tbh

i think NQ should not allow Dynamic core placement on market tiles and should outright remove any advertisement/spam constructs on market tiles, its atrocious and needs to be dealt with, fuel depots and shops are fine, but NO ADs or spying birds!!

good watch, i recommend it

Hello, i was on one of the ships crashing the SW pvp event and generating content, was a lot of fun and i really hope that NQ brings more opportunity to do more pirate themed stuff
 
GF AC, and all who attended
 
see yall next time
 
-EL X
 
a statement from our leader:
"Hello everyone, Sylva, leader of Band Of Outlaws here.
 
This thread, the official DU discord and the Memeserver have all gotten a lot of traffic and I thought I would drop by and leave some of my thoughts here for you all. I acknowledge and understand that the Star Wars fans who created the event feel that we, BOO and some of our allies, when crashing their event yesterday, "ruined it." And yes, Skilo has it right when he says that we did it because we could. Those of you who are arguing against the Star Wars IP being in the game... well, tbh, I love Star Wars, it has inspired more than one generation of space dreamers, and hopefully, many more to come. That having been said, there is more to this story (and hopefully, for the story of Dual Universe). 
 
We originally had someone sign up for the Star Wars event who was building a legit PvP meta Star Wars ship. At the time, I was advised that we were also giving info to the Star Wars group on how to build PvP meta ships, and that advice was generally not followed/heeded. As the date loomed closer it became apparent that the ship, according to our standards, was only about 10% complete, and so our member withdrew from the Star Wars event. 
 
We then heard that ATOM was being paid to provide security for the event, and that was when we decided to party crash it. 
 
The thing is, when you look at what Dual Universe intends to be, a civilization building game - there should, in my opinion, player made safe zones in which events like this could be held in. This is an event that you would hold in the heart of an area that has an enforced edge of space, so pirate incursions would be few and far between (and not be without repercussions). We very much support this. We expect to be hunted down because of our actions. We will be disappointed if we aren't. 
 
We already don't hunt the small fries. We already do not pursue freighters and small ships. We have historically only hunted the larger org tagged ships. Our groups already PvP against each other. We haven't done a PvP event since the End of the World event in December. Since then we have only had solos and small groups go out for PvP, which has still been few and far between. Mostly we have been doing the same as everyone else, recovering from the .23 patch, mining, industry, and building more ships. We got bored. We crashed the party and ruined a lot of hard work, and for what? Some laughs... and hoping to fight some ATOM and some hopefully buffed Star Wars capital ships. 
 
As to the idea of waiting for DU to grow more... you may very well get what you request. BOO has diversified our gaming interests. We are playing Valheim, Starbase, and Last Oasis in addition to Dual Universe now. Don't worry though, we're still around and will still be active in Dual Universe. We will sporadically come out and throw down. So try to be prepared for us. Build meta ships. Bring your friends. You don't know when we will strike. 
 
Prepare for the changes that are coming. " - Sylva, on page 5 of this thread

( i just typed in oh no and copied a link :D, still works!)

Yeah DU will end well... DU Creative Mode on Steam Early Access Reeee))))

Rly cute how ppl don't want to accept NQs plan from the beginning to have a pvp zone where ppl can be attacked. Gl changing their mind on that one

Ill help you out. Calling people names like that is a solid way to get yourself banned either from forums or the discord. Ask Daphne. She has good experience when it comes to calling people names. Funnily enough I think it was also our members. 

as someone who was diagnosed with autism at an early age, @iNFiDeL i would kindly ask you stop. we crashed your in game event, so what? none of that is the same as shaming someone with a real disability. thanks for showing out of game respect at least should you stop

as someone who was diagnosed with autism at an early age, @iNFiDeL i would kindly ask you stop. we crashed your in game event, so what? none of that is the same as shaming someone with a real disability. thanks for showing out of game respect at least should you stop

Hello everyone, Sylva, leader of Band Of Outlaws here.
 
This thread, the official DU discord and the Memeserver have all gotten a lot of traffic and I thought I would drop by and leave some of my thoughts here for you all. I acknowledge and understand that the Star Wars fans who created the event feel that we, BOO and some of our allies, when crashing their event yesterday, "ruined it." And yes, Skilo has it right when he says that we did it because we could. Those of you who are arguing against the Star Wars IP being in the game... well, tbh, I love Star Wars, it has inspired more than one generation of space dreamers, and hopefully, many more to come. That having been said, there is more to this story (and hopefully, for the story of Dual Universe). 
 
We originally had someone sign up for the Star Wars event who was building a legit PvP meta Star Wars ship. At the time, I was advised that we were also giving info to the Star Wars group on how to build PvP meta ships, and that advice was generally not followed/heeded. As the date loomed closer it became apparent that the ship, according to our standards, was only about 10% complete, and so our member withdrew from the Star Wars event. 
 
We then heard that ATOM was being paid to provide security for the event, and that was when we decided to party crash it. 
 
The thing is, when you look at what Dual Universe intends to be, a civilization building game - there should, in my opinion, player made safe zones in which events like this could be held in. This is an event that you would hold in the heart of an area that has an enforced edge of space, so pirate incursions would be few and far between (and not be without repercussions). We very much support this. We expect to be hunted down because of our actions. We will be disappointed if we aren't. 
 
We already don't hunt the small fries. We already do not pursue freighters and small ships. We have historically only hunted the larger org tagged ships. Our groups already PvP against each other. We haven't done a PvP event since the End of the World event in December. Since then we have only had solos and small groups go out for PvP, which has still been few and far between. Mostly we have been doing the same as everyone else, recovering from the .23 patch, mining, industry, and building more ships. We got bored. We crashed the party and ruined a lot of hard work, and for what? Some laughs... and hoping to fight some ATOM and some hopefully buffed Star Wars capital ships. 
 
As to the idea of waiting for DU to grow more... you may very well get what you request. BOO has diversified our gaming interests. We are playing Valheim, Starbase, and Last Oasis in addition to Dual Universe now. Don't worry though, we're still around and will still be active in Dual Universe. We will sporadically come out and throw down. So try to be prepared for us. Build meta ships. Bring your friends. You don't know when we will strike. 
 
Prepare for the changes that are coming. 

what you're saying here is that Star Wars was great because it was a new take on old concepts, something inovative, now apply that to DU. Instead of hosting make believe SW fights, write NEW history, the history of DU, it will be a story much like SW, but fresh and intresting.

 
 
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....

If you don't like bullies maybe start by trying not to be one yourself.
 
You lose all creditability as the "good guy" here, when you use a word like that as an insult.
 
Just don't do it anymore.  It's not that hard.

At this point i'm rooting for BOO just because @iNFiDeL keeps calling people Autistic.
 
I hope they blow up all your Millennium Falcons.
 
Star Trek is better anyway.

Yes

BOO member here!
 
Hi all
 
I had lots of fun yesterday at the event and even more after on DU Discord with all the Salt there!
 
1st and above all to compare our actions ingame to who we are IRL it's just pathetic and you should all just got back to your moms basement and cry (see what i did here saying you are crying babies IRL and still living @ moms?).
 
You can call it whatever you want about what we did. We did it because we want it to and because we could. Simple as that and without any excuses!
 
Don't want that to repeat again? Just be better. Either at planing, defensing, secrets doesn't matter.
 
And if you stop playing a game because you cannot fly you SW ships into PVP zone (I do Love those SW ships btw. Some great work there!!!) then DU wasn't the game for you in the 1st place.
 
And for joaocordeiro and iNFiDeL ... you are our best propaganda players. Please keep the good work!!!! We really love that!

Because he did not do anything against the rules. 

Well I wouldn't do that because soccer balls and basketballs are two different things and require two different courts. This was DU. We all had the same ball (ships) and played on the same court (pvp zone). Also if I did that irl Id expect to probably get in a fight. This event had hired guards and we primarily attacked those. If you don't want to get PvPd bring better guards or dont do it in the pvp zone.

BOO bois BOO bois whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
 

How dare BOO PvP in the PvP zone. How rude of us to play the game according to the rules set forth by NQ.

Hello, i was on one of the ships crashing the SW pvp event and generating content, was a lot of fun and i really hope that NQ brings more opportunity to do more pirate themed stuff
 
GF AC, and all who attended
 
see yall next time
 
-EL X
 
a statement from our leader:
"Hello everyone, Sylva, leader of Band Of Outlaws here.
 
This thread, the official DU discord and the Memeserver have all gotten a lot of traffic and I thought I would drop by and leave some of my thoughts here for you all. I acknowledge and understand that the Star Wars fans who created the event feel that we, BOO and some of our allies, when crashing their event yesterday, "ruined it." And yes, Skilo has it right when he says that we did it because we could. Those of you who are arguing against the Star Wars IP being in the game... well, tbh, I love Star Wars, it has inspired more than one generation of space dreamers, and hopefully, many more to come. That having been said, there is more to this story (and hopefully, for the story of Dual Universe). 
 
We originally had someone sign up for the Star Wars event who was building a legit PvP meta Star Wars ship. At the time, I was advised that we were also giving info to the Star Wars group on how to build PvP meta ships, and that advice was generally not followed/heeded. As the date loomed closer it became apparent that the ship, according to our standards, was only about 10% complete, and so our member withdrew from the Star Wars event. 
 
We then heard that ATOM was being paid to provide security for the event, and that was when we decided to party crash it. 
 
The thing is, when you look at what Dual Universe intends to be, a civilization building game - there should, in my opinion, player made safe zones in which events like this could be held in. This is an event that you would hold in the heart of an area that has an enforced edge of space, so pirate incursions would be few and far between (and not be without repercussions). We very much support this. We expect to be hunted down because of our actions. We will be disappointed if we aren't. 
 
We already don't hunt the small fries. We already do not pursue freighters and small ships. We have historically only hunted the larger org tagged ships. Our groups already PvP against each other. We haven't done a PvP event since the End of the World event in December. Since then we have only had solos and small groups go out for PvP, which has still been few and far between. Mostly we have been doing the same as everyone else, recovering from the .23 patch, mining, industry, and building more ships. We got bored. We crashed the party and ruined a lot of hard work, and for what? Some laughs... and hoping to fight some ATOM and some hopefully buffed Star Wars capital ships. 
 
As to the idea of waiting for DU to grow more... you may very well get what you request. BOO has diversified our gaming interests. We are playing Valheim, Starbase, and Last Oasis in addition to Dual Universe now. Don't worry though, we're still around and will still be active in Dual Universe. We will sporadically come out and throw down. So try to be prepared for us. Build meta ships. Bring your friends. You don't know when we will strike. 
 
Prepare for the changes that are coming. " - Sylva, on page 5 of this thread

Hello, i was on one of the ships crashing the SW pvp event and generating content, was a lot of fun and i really hope that NQ brings more opportunity to do more pirate themed stuff
 
GF AC, and all who attended
 
see yall next time
 
-EL X
 
a statement from our leader:
"Hello everyone, Sylva, leader of Band Of Outlaws here.
 
This thread, the official DU discord and the Memeserver have all gotten a lot of traffic and I thought I would drop by and leave some of my thoughts here for you all. I acknowledge and understand that the Star Wars fans who created the event feel that we, BOO and some of our allies, when crashing their event yesterday, "ruined it." And yes, Skilo has it right when he says that we did it because we could. Those of you who are arguing against the Star Wars IP being in the game... well, tbh, I love Star Wars, it has inspired more than one generation of space dreamers, and hopefully, many more to come. That having been said, there is more to this story (and hopefully, for the story of Dual Universe). 
 
We originally had someone sign up for the Star Wars event who was building a legit PvP meta Star Wars ship. At the time, I was advised that we were also giving info to the Star Wars group on how to build PvP meta ships, and that advice was generally not followed/heeded. As the date loomed closer it became apparent that the ship, according to our standards, was only about 10% complete, and so our member withdrew from the Star Wars event. 
 
We then heard that ATOM was being paid to provide security for the event, and that was when we decided to party crash it. 
 
The thing is, when you look at what Dual Universe intends to be, a civilization building game - there should, in my opinion, player made safe zones in which events like this could be held in. This is an event that you would hold in the heart of an area that has an enforced edge of space, so pirate incursions would be few and far between (and not be without repercussions). We very much support this. We expect to be hunted down because of our actions. We will be disappointed if we aren't. 
 
We already don't hunt the small fries. We already do not pursue freighters and small ships. We have historically only hunted the larger org tagged ships. Our groups already PvP against each other. We haven't done a PvP event since the End of the World event in December. Since then we have only had solos and small groups go out for PvP, which has still been few and far between. Mostly we have been doing the same as everyone else, recovering from the .23 patch, mining, industry, and building more ships. We got bored. We crashed the party and ruined a lot of hard work, and for what? Some laughs... and hoping to fight some ATOM and some hopefully buffed Star Wars capital ships. 
 
As to the idea of waiting for DU to grow more... you may very well get what you request. BOO has diversified our gaming interests. We are playing Valheim, Starbase, and Last Oasis in addition to Dual Universe now. Don't worry though, we're still around and will still be active in Dual Universe. We will sporadically come out and throw down. So try to be prepared for us. Build meta ships. Bring your friends. You don't know when we will strike. 
 
Prepare for the changes that are coming. " - Sylva, on page 5 of this thread