joaocordeiro

Back in alpha there was a guy that went for a  week or so.
 
To our knowledge, The DU universe expands forever, being forever empty except on what NQ as placed.
Edit: or at least until the coordinate system maxes out its variable.
 
There are rumors that some have found uncharted planets, but in a raw state of development (no ores, just spheres)
 
The star circles the universe from an infinite perspective, not having an actual body, just an infinite plane texture and a light source. So, it does not matter how much you fly, you would never be in the star trajectory.
 
It is unknown if this will change when the next star system is added.

Tnx for the honest replies. 
 
I really dont have a problem with your ideology. 
But i believe the game will not survive this. 
 
And its not your fault, at least most of it is not. If you did not existed, someone else would do what you did. 
 
The main fault here is from NQ for:
Making a game without any secondary sources of fun. For you, PVPers. And for us.
Not understanding how naive was to assume players would build a civilization and fail to create mechanisms to ensure that. 
Not giving us hope, making most of us assume the game will never be more than this. 

So far, everything that i flagged got a response within 24h. Except the last one, took like 5 days. 
 
Maybe they are low in moderators. 
 
But, i dont think org leaders should be moderating. 
I was never moderated by my org leaders. 
This forum exists for us to give our opinion as players. As game testers. Its quite personal. Org leaders have their own opinions and should give them. But not moderate their org. 

I kind of love BOO for doing this. 
Sure it was a 100% dick move. One my moral values would prevent me from doing.
 
But this is what all of you PVP lovers wanted. 
If you all wanted for pvp to be free, unregulated in all places except sanctuary moon. This is it. 
This is unregulated pvp. 
They dont care about you, your feelings or your event. And you support this rule set they used. 
 
Most of you expected your little org to have a blast killing others, but now you are the pray. 
 
Next time, think this through before asking for a system that makes only 1 winner and 99 losers. 
 

On spherical planets, extreme weather, fog, dynamic liquids like lava would be nice. 
 
Edit: also ancient stone cities. 
 
That frozen cloud world from interstellar was nice. 
 
But i would love to see a asteroid belt 200SU long
 
Or a broken planet with a huge chunk separated by a 20km gap. 

That kind of already exists. 
 
There are a set of monolith in several places in the system. I have found one personaly.
Those monoliths have some kind of code.. 
Those codes were joined together in a calculation and a secret loation was found. Im not sure but i belive the special t5 ore was found there. 
 
There are also several monuments, some of them underground that ppl have found.
 
Some players theorize that the way to go to another system is linked to those acient monuments. 

On spherical planets, extreme weather, fog, dynamic liquids like lava would be nice. 
 
Edit: also ancient stone cities. 
 
That frozen cloud world from interstellar was nice. 
 
But i would love to see a asteroid belt 200SU long
 
Or a broken planet with a huge chunk separated by a 20km gap. 

That kind of already exists. 
 
There are a set of monolith in several places in the system. I have found one personaly.
Those monoliths have some kind of code.. 
Those codes were joined together in a calculation and a secret loation was found. Im not sure but i belive the special t5 ore was found there. 
 
There are also several monuments, some of them underground that ppl have found.
 
Some players theorize that the way to go to another system is linked to those acient monuments. 

Because he did not do anything against the rules. 

This guy has been your side kid for several debates about pvp. Practically the same as agreeing to your self. 

That requires common sense. 
Building a civilization also requires common sense. 
 
But apparently we are now finding out that MMO players are probably the group with less common sense in this world. What a surprise. 

Its nice to see a person who does not make excuses. 
I like ppl like you. 
Ppl like you can debate things. 
 
I understand that. I understand what is like to plan an attack, execute it, feel the success of it. 
 
To tell you the truth, if this game is a success, i want to do what you do. 
To hunt my pray. To say "hold it, hold it.. NOW!" 
 
But the thing is that you and your friends are doing it too son. 
I understand the importance of piracy to the game and more importantly to make powerfull orgs not feel too confident. 
 
I understand how it is hard to train coordination and chain of command to later be idle for weeks without a target. 
I was a officer on a arma3 clan. We demand that soldiers train and obey orders, they demand action. 
 
But the rest of the community and the state of the development of DU are not ready for you guys. 
Its a sad truth but its the truth. 
 
So you have a choice to make, and its your choice not ours. 
 
Do you want to let the game grow, the enemy grow.
Letting ppl pass by your net because you know they are small fry. 
Allowing events. 
Engaging in pvp against yourselves to keep motivation.
 
Or you harvest all the seeds in the ground not allowing them to grow. 
You hunt every prey until all prey has quit DU. 
But then DU is dead. No more hunting. 

Because he did not do anything against the rules. 

I guess you are not a science fiction fan.
But I'm gonna try to explain it in a simple way:
 
Imagine a group of PPL, that love shooting adventures. In the 70's there were 3 types of shooting adventures. Cowboys, Spies and WW2. Ppl were getting tired of cowboys, spies and ww2 were too real to be fun.
Jorge Lucas figured out that if they made a vast universe with remote lawless areas, he could have "space cowboys"
Instead of a horse, they had a ship. Instead of a father figure they had jedis to provide a moral validation.
 
At that time ppl were able to dream about freedom, wild adventures, saving princesses, fighting against evil, not as something far away in the past. But something yet to come in the future.
 
Can you understand how DU is appealing for fans of Star Wars?
Can you understand how Star Wars impacted every science fiction tittle?
 
So to answer your question.
DU and Star Wars are related by the fans.
Star Wars fans are an important target group to be players of DU.
Du players will react positively to Star Wars content, making players already in game, dream a little longer and maintain their subscription.
 

You clearly dont understand what a civilization is, at least in the eyes of NQ. 
 
Also, "player driven" is not "player made" and even less "100% player made"
 
NQ can and should create the conditions for promoting events to happen. As long as those events dont change the balance of the game, NQ can create small protected pockets without being accused of interference.

@JohnnyTazer
It was a dick move.
In the same way trowing a grenade into tower of players in CS is a dick move. 
You saw something that could be funny. 
You took advantage on the hope of ppl and you crushed every one's hope. 
 
Can you do that? YES. 
Do most ppl do that? NO
What makes you special? You ok with doing dick moves.
Dont try to clean this up. They came to the forum, to open a new topic, to get attention for destroying ppls hope for a event. 
This is not about a group being a snowflake. This is about another group needing to crush snowflakes to boost their ego. 
 
That said. 
You are right. This is the game we have, this are the rules. You guys are free to be who ever you want in game. It does not matter if you are directly venting RL problems or if you are role-playing as a heartless terrorist, you have the right to do this. 
 
For you, every action we do has a consequence. And those consequences dont change by winning this topic's battles. 
This themed battle would in did be good pub on youtube. This was destroyed. 
The one-sided loss of assets and work generated for this event, will be a catalist for more ppl to lose hope in the game and take a break from du if not leave forever. 
 
For others, JohnnyTazer is not alone. There are hundreds of players like him. 
They want to play this like ppl play dayz. 
"shoot everything that moves, shoot to kil, shoot without any morals"
Rules, that you agreed to and promoted, allow it. 
This is the ppl that will be left to build a civilization. 
 
Yet they only want your blood, your scalp. 
 
So, next time ppl like me warn you about the rules, about protecting new players, about "player driven" possibility to become "hell", dont call us trolls. Dont argument just to win a forum battle. Dont stay quiet while we do the battle alone. Dont think your little group will be the alpha male so you dont have to care about this. 
 
But if you do those things above, dont complain now. You just got what you wanted. 

I kind of love BOO for doing this. 
Sure it was a 100% dick move. One my moral values would prevent me from doing.
 
But this is what all of you PVP lovers wanted. 
If you all wanted for pvp to be free, unregulated in all places except sanctuary moon. This is it. 
This is unregulated pvp. 
They dont care about you, your feelings or your event. And you support this rule set they used. 
 
Most of you expected your little org to have a blast killing others, but now you are the pray. 
 
Next time, think this through before asking for a system that makes only 1 winner and 99 losers. 
 

Kind of the same reason catapults are not in the game despite having been invented many many centuries ago. 

I kind of love BOO for doing this. 
Sure it was a 100% dick move. One my moral values would prevent me from doing.
 
But this is what all of you PVP lovers wanted. 
If you all wanted for pvp to be free, unregulated in all places except sanctuary moon. This is it. 
This is unregulated pvp. 
They dont care about you, your feelings or your event. And you support this rule set they used. 
 
Most of you expected your little org to have a blast killing others, but now you are the pray. 
 
Next time, think this through before asking for a system that makes only 1 winner and 99 losers. 
 

I guess this is why i said the plan for player driven civilization building game was very optimistic.
 
More examples coming soon. 

The issue is how do avatar NPCs navigate inside dynamic voxel constructs. 
How would dynamic npc constructs keep fighting effectively against a infinite combination of player constructs even after being damaged. 
 
And mainly how to make this lack of intelligence not exploitable by players. 
 
I can imagine a group of players figuring out a combination of voxels that would bug the npcs. Making then passive targets. 
 
A simple hole in the ground made by a mining tunnel can be hell to a noob with a speeder. Imagina how many npcs would just fall into a simple hole and just die there. 
 
No man's sky does not have to deal with this dynamism 

The issue is how do avatar NPCs navigate inside dynamic voxel constructs. 
How would dynamic npc constructs keep fighting effectively against a infinite combination of player constructs even after being damaged. 
 
And mainly how to make this lack of intelligence not exploitable by players. 
 
I can imagine a group of players figuring out a combination of voxels that would bug the npcs. Making then passive targets. 
 
A simple hole in the ground made by a mining tunnel can be hell to a noob with a speeder. Imagina how many npcs would just fall into a simple hole and just die there. 
 
No man's sky does not have to deal with this dynamism 

It was never about wanting npcs in the game. 
It was about the difficult challenges to do this with a dynamic world like DU. 
Path finding alguritmons with this dynamism would require pretty advanced AI. 
 
NQ explained to us how this would massively increase the investment needed to release the game. 
And i agree with them. 
 
But they never said no for this feature to be added to the game after release. 

Yea. I'm on the same boat.
But this is not the end for me and should not be the end for you.
 
As it is,(IMO) the game will not survive, at least not for long.
So one of 2 things will happen in the future.
The game changes and becomes attractive The game closes and NQ is forced by investors to sell the salvaged technology developed to others. Both this options will create new opportunities for me and you to have fun again in the future.

Historically this type of questions, trying to frame the unframable usually have an agenda. I wander if this one also has one. 
 
"What kind of game is this to you?"... 
This assumes the definition of "the kind of game" is not set by NQ but a open topic with several divergent opinions. 
 
A proper question could be:
"What kind of game would you like DU to evolve to? " 
OR
"What aspect of the game do you enjoy the most? " 
Those 2 questions have personal opinions as answer. 
Yours does not.