Cyanyde Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 I don't know what you all are thinking, this game is no were near finished. You are only giving us half a game and you all think that that is ok, WTF. Duragon, SuperEpicAndy, Nosomu and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderblaze Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Release doesn't mean they stop updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, Thunderblaze said: Release doesn't mean they stop updates. Yes, you point being? In it's current stage DU is not ready for release as a fully fleshed product which is what i suspect the OP is referring to. Are they forced to release anyway, perhaps as a last ditch effort to safe the dumpster fire that is DU Zarcata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptLoRes Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 They are forced to "release", but the game is no where close to what people expect from a MMO these days. And so after "release" the so called "still in beta" excuse can no longer be used as an catch all for everything that if wrong with DU, and there will predictably be negative reviews saying what we all know is true. And I just can't see how anyone can expect that the game we get will result in large numbers of new players joining at release. Truly a lose-lose situation if I ever have seen one. Zarcata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koffye Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 The release will cancel all beta accounts and will force them to pay, but thats maybe not a bad thing. I want this game to survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptLoRes Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Sorry to burst your bubble, but as a gold founder I have approx 2 years worth of subscription in DAC's from the Kickstarter. Silver has about a year and bronze close to the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruzer Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 I beg to differ OP. This game is indeed 'finished'. sHuRuLuNi and Kurosawa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
space_man Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Kruzer said: I beg to differ OP. This game is indeed 'finished'. As in the mindset of the playerbase? Am confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sHuRuLuNi Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 13 hours ago, Kruzer said: I beg to differ OP. This game is indeed 'finished'. 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazemonger Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 17 hours ago, Kruzer said: I beg to differ OP. This game is indeed 'finished'. You are not wrong I fear and not because of the state the game is nowIMO, which may be a surprise.. The problem is that I expect NQ thinks they can salavge the DU by keeping their "what's next" announcements to the last moment prior to "release of DU into early access" to create the idea af much "great new content and features" yet to come, hoping to be able to draw it the many tens of thousands they will need. Problem there is that this will not work and so yes, at that point NQ is done for as they wil have run out of funding and not able to secure more money. They are trying to squeeze a MVP out the door at this point. Zarcata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blundertwink Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 The challenge with release is that you only have one opportunity to ride the press and interest that comes with a new game hitting the market. Players won't care if "updates are coming" if their first impression of the product is poor -- especially with how the game is engineered to somewhat discourage reconversions via abandonment mechanics. It will be a similar pattern as Amazon's New World or DU's public beta launch...an explosion of interest as the product launches, then quick churn until it reaches a floor. DU's floor will be much lower than Amazon's, though....and Amazon monetized their game by ditching a sub and making the cost up-front...so even with daily active players being 1/10th of launch, they likely recouped all their production costs. On the other hand, DU will need to keep new players subbed for 4 months to make the same revenue. After release, the cost to acquire users only increases -- so let's hope Athena massively, massively improves FTUE and gives new player a reason to stay subbed....otherwise it'll become very clear how "not ready" the game was and there won't be another opportunity to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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