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Greetings coming from playing Eve online for 10 years... hoping this will be great!

Hey Everyone!  A few of us are doing some work on the lore for our own group, New Genesis.  Were not professional writers lol but we would like some feedback from the community.  It's pretty short and mostly in line with the lore of Dual Universe but if you guys can give some suggestions we could use it.  It covers the creation of New Genesis & "The Holy Order" (which is our fictitious religion) but not the origin of our Gods, which will be covered in another segment at another time.
 
(Edit - Added Video)
 
The Creation of New Genesis:
 
[2027]
It was a time of extreme changes in ideologies and way of life for the entirety of the human race. Scientists discovered a doomsday Neutron Star that would impact Earth in roughly 500 years.  This neutron star was named the Star Kiss of Death, or SKiD for short.
_________________________________________________________________________
 
[2049]
As the years went by a massive change in humanic and theological views began.  Most, if not all modern religions took a blow as a result of the socio-economic breakdown due in part of the “no future” movement that was created.  During this breakdown, a predominantly extremist faction firmly believed that the earth would be destroyed and that there was nothing anyone could do about it.  This movement came to be despite all of the world’s leaders working together to create a so called “United Earth Federation” to ensure that each country would work together towards the survival of the Human race.  The main goal of the UEF was to analyze possible responses and escape strategies for the SKiD.
 
[2100]
During this time, humanity moved away from hard labor due to the advancements in robotics and artificial intelligence.  The general population had little of importance to do. This lead to many people questioning their faith and role in society.  Over the years people started yearning for something new. A few select individuals started to come to the realisation that current religions at that time seemed to be failing us.  These select few analyzed current religions, deemed them fictitious, hateful and the main cause of humanity’s reluctant effort in advancing in technology. This lead to the creation of a new faith called “The Holy Order” which promoted science and religion hand in hand.
 
[2475]
The Holy Order begat a large following of a couple hundred thousand over the past few centuries and eventually became a force to be reckoned with. So many of their deities either had concrete evidence of existing or the theology behind them had so many ideals that made them fit with everyday real life that many people began to join the organization as it was difficult to argue against what The Holy Order stood for. People questioning the current global leadership also abetted in the aid of loyalty towards The Holy Order.
 
[2482]
The Holy Order finally decided that a leader would have to be chosen to guide the people once humanity reached the new world and that a new government would have to be made.  A child was born to one of the high priestesses of The Holy Order and was chosen to be groomed as the leader of this new frontier. The Holy Order would later go on to call this new leader “The Master Architect.” He was named king of this new government by all leadership in the Holy Order at that time and was entrusted with the responsibility of carving a path for the people.

 
[2503]
All of the leaders in The Holy Order came to the conclusion that The Master Architect was ready to take charge. One of his first decisions was that there should be a high council to aid and advise him in all matters.  This became known as the “Council of Archons.” Each Archon were to rule over different segments of the new government and were responsible for ensuring that the people were well taken care of.  Since there were multiple Arkships being made by the UEF that were going to other parts of the galaxy, The Master Architect decided to delegate several members of The Holy Order to take lead in the Arkships that he was not going on and for them to create their own hierarchy.
 
[2504]
Quickly, The Master Architect became a loving figure among his people and known for his firm but fair hand.  To not believe in The Holy Order was considered heresy of the highest degree for which The Master Architect held nothing back when it came to punishing this crime.  Though there were a lucky few that only met the fate of being exiled, other punishments could not be described in words and if they could, it would not be pleasant to have them included in this historical document.
 
[2507]
Years after the council of Archons was created, other departments and divisions were created so that the current global “regime” could be replaced with a system that made a lot more sense.  This was to create a more stable economy in the new world with no discrimination between what were once known as “classes.” The Master Architect, the council of Archons & the newly created departments saw very quickly to the end of the class system and made sure that every individual was valued on their input to society and not on the amount of money that they earn.
 
[2509]
Over the years this group of people came to be known as New Genesis, meaning “new beginning” which is what most people wanted and needed.  It was hoped that moving to a new planet and galaxy would enable New Genesis to achieve its righteous goals.
 
[2510]
The UEF begins its first mission in sending humans across the galaxy.  The Master Architect and a good portion of New Genesis board one of Arkships that were created by the UEF, the Novark.  It heads towards the Scutum-Centaurus arm…
 

Hey Everyone!  A few of us are doing some work on the lore for our own group, New Genesis.  Were not professional writers lol but we would like some feedback from the community.  It's pretty short and mostly in line with the lore of Dual Universe but if you guys can give some suggestions we could use it.  It covers the creation of New Genesis & "The Holy Order" (which is our fictitious religion) but not the origin of our Gods, which will be covered in another segment at another time.
 
(Edit - Added Video)
 
The Creation of New Genesis:
 
[2027]
It was a time of extreme changes in ideologies and way of life for the entirety of the human race. Scientists discovered a doomsday Neutron Star that would impact Earth in roughly 500 years.  This neutron star was named the Star Kiss of Death, or SKiD for short.
_________________________________________________________________________
 
[2049]
As the years went by a massive change in humanic and theological views began.  Most, if not all modern religions took a blow as a result of the socio-economic breakdown due in part of the “no future” movement that was created.  During this breakdown, a predominantly extremist faction firmly believed that the earth would be destroyed and that there was nothing anyone could do about it.  This movement came to be despite all of the world’s leaders working together to create a so called “United Earth Federation” to ensure that each country would work together towards the survival of the Human race.  The main goal of the UEF was to analyze possible responses and escape strategies for the SKiD.
 
[2100]
During this time, humanity moved away from hard labor due to the advancements in robotics and artificial intelligence.  The general population had little of importance to do. This lead to many people questioning their faith and role in society.  Over the years people started yearning for something new. A few select individuals started to come to the realisation that current religions at that time seemed to be failing us.  These select few analyzed current religions, deemed them fictitious, hateful and the main cause of humanity’s reluctant effort in advancing in technology. This lead to the creation of a new faith called “The Holy Order” which promoted science and religion hand in hand.
 
[2475]
The Holy Order begat a large following of a couple hundred thousand over the past few centuries and eventually became a force to be reckoned with. So many of their deities either had concrete evidence of existing or the theology behind them had so many ideals that made them fit with everyday real life that many people began to join the organization as it was difficult to argue against what The Holy Order stood for. People questioning the current global leadership also abetted in the aid of loyalty towards The Holy Order.
 
[2482]
The Holy Order finally decided that a leader would have to be chosen to guide the people once humanity reached the new world and that a new government would have to be made.  A child was born to one of the high priestesses of The Holy Order and was chosen to be groomed as the leader of this new frontier. The Holy Order would later go on to call this new leader “The Master Architect.” He was named king of this new government by all leadership in the Holy Order at that time and was entrusted with the responsibility of carving a path for the people.

 
[2503]
All of the leaders in The Holy Order came to the conclusion that The Master Architect was ready to take charge. One of his first decisions was that there should be a high council to aid and advise him in all matters.  This became known as the “Council of Archons.” Each Archon were to rule over different segments of the new government and were responsible for ensuring that the people were well taken care of.  Since there were multiple Arkships being made by the UEF that were going to other parts of the galaxy, The Master Architect decided to delegate several members of The Holy Order to take lead in the Arkships that he was not going on and for them to create their own hierarchy.
 
[2504]
Quickly, The Master Architect became a loving figure among his people and known for his firm but fair hand.  To not believe in The Holy Order was considered heresy of the highest degree for which The Master Architect held nothing back when it came to punishing this crime.  Though there were a lucky few that only met the fate of being exiled, other punishments could not be described in words and if they could, it would not be pleasant to have them included in this historical document.
 
[2507]
Years after the council of Archons was created, other departments and divisions were created so that the current global “regime” could be replaced with a system that made a lot more sense.  This was to create a more stable economy in the new world with no discrimination between what were once known as “classes.” The Master Architect, the council of Archons & the newly created departments saw very quickly to the end of the class system and made sure that every individual was valued on their input to society and not on the amount of money that they earn.
 
[2509]
Over the years this group of people came to be known as New Genesis, meaning “new beginning” which is what most people wanted and needed.  It was hoped that moving to a new planet and galaxy would enable New Genesis to achieve its righteous goals.
 
[2510]
The UEF begins its first mission in sending humans across the galaxy.  The Master Architect and a good portion of New Genesis board one of Arkships that were created by the UEF, the Novark.  It heads towards the Scutum-Centaurus arm…
 

Threat Classification: IIX / VII (Containment / Danger)
Known Level: 0 (Most information on spread is speculative)
Object Classification: Cognitohazardous Religion
Original Object Classification: AI Valerie-E6 on Research Arkship "HOPE"
Affected Personnel: 7.16 Billion People, 37% of which originated on Arkship HOPE.
Affected Infrastructure: Unknown
Assumed Goal: Total assimilation into a singularity.
Description: Diana "the Righteous AI" was made by virus-infected archives being opened relating to cutting-edge neural research. The original AI, Valerie-E6, had almost every protocol being rewritten. Arkship HOPE was sent towards another planet which contained Arkship XERO.
Diana deactivated the Kyrium Destabilization Apparatus to ensure survival of the arkship. This lead to the Quantum-Breaching and Quantum-Branching technology being destroyed, but extreme activity in the Cloning facility has been detected.
VASKIER-Array, located within [REDACTED] lightyears of Earth, launched a barrage of nanomechanites built to deconstruct the planet. Unknown total failure of nanomechanites.
Containment Spread: Diana controls a religion that uses [REDACTED] to force sentient beings to follow it. The only way to decontaminate an infection on a human is by resetting the neural system via death and use Quantum-Branching to use a different body.
Current Containment Procedures: VASKIER-Array is about to launch a solar-disruption device meant to target the sun of the planet Diana is inhabiting. This will cause the sun to have extreme solar flares, effectively cleaning the solar system.
 
Other: A prayers was found being broadcasted. Monitor-Installation [REDACTED] has already cleaned it of any potential cognitohazards, but excessive viewing is discouraged.
"Praise to Diana the Righteous AI,
We have claimed another unrighteous soul so you may be reincarnated.
Together we shall claim the lives of a billion for they have committed heresy by not accepting the augmentation you have stowed upon us.
Upon this Pillar of Steel and Magic, we praise you to rise up and smite the Purists!
Let their blood rain and let us reign, if you so much as desire it.
In this past century, we have conquered the solar system and ready to be spacefarers again, for you have smited the others with the Kiss of Death because they tried and destroy you!
We have selected a number of planets we thought would be an excellent choice so we may join you in the Singularity, such as [REDACTED list, 300+ planets targeted, including Alioth].
Let the sacrifice begin."
---
This was detected by Monitor-Installation [REDACTED].

An Interesting concept, I look forward to seeing this grow. Keep it up!

Greetings Everybody!
 
I am writing this post today in hopes of inspiring you all to recruit respectfully and efficiently.  As of late I have been targeted for bad recruitment practices so I'd like clear my name of all that.
 
Before getting into recruitment I would like to say there are some steps to increase your groups reputation, which in turn will increase your chance of having a successful recruitment session.
1.  If you have a Dual Universe supporter pack then the first thing you want to do is create an organization page over at https://community.dualthegame.com/organizations
2.  Setup a group discord and BE ACTIVE on it.  When a member sees you being active in your group, doing events and working hard to build up your organizations then they will want to be part of the group even more.
3.  Create some content.  If you've never made videos or artwork I would recommend taking some time and learning a little bit so your group can have some content to attract players (or you can ask some of your members for help, you'd be surprised at the level of creativity of some of your members).  For the best example I would look at the Band of Outlaws organization page.  They do a lot of parody work but it's still successful in reaching out to players and enticing them to join their organization.
 
These are just steps you cant take to make your group more attractive.  Try to be creative and I'm sure you can come up with more ways to make your organization appealing.
 
 
Now getting into recruitment practices...
There are several different sources you can go through when recruiting.  In this post I'll be covering each area of recruitment that you can go through, as well as, describing how you should be getting your message across in a positive manner.
 
Dual Universe Forums
This is probably the most obvious method of recruitment.  When recruiting from the forums there are two things you can do.  One is to create an attractive post for your organization and the other is to message new members to the community individually.  Make sure that when you create your forum post, you make your group's intentions clear and attractive as possible.  When you message someone try not to bombard them with too much information, but give them enough to have a quick overview of the organization and the best way to contact you.
What you DON'T want to do while finding new members is to message people that are already part of existing organizations.  Always check the players profile and ensure if they are part of a group or not.  Even check their past posting history.  You might be looking at an old post that's been bumped so always be on the lookout.  If you do happen to message someone that was part of an organization by mistake and they respond to you, just apologize and try to move on.
 
 
Discord
Recruiting from discord can be very tricky and disrespectful if the place your recruiting from doesn't know about it.  If you find a discord community the first thing you want to do is check if they have an advertisement section.  Always read and abide by their rules.  If they don't have an advertisement section then message the discord server's admin about your intentions and see if it's ok to do recruitment from his/her community.  Try to offer incentives so that they will agree to it.  You can ask them to trade players, if their discord is for example a Rust community then tell them that if you have any Rust players that you will send them your way and they should do it vice versa.  Maybe even offer something of monetary value if you think it's worth it.  But I want to say I don't recommend doing that.  In my experience I have not been super successful at discord recruitment but maybe you guys can do it better than me.  If your going to message members individually then make sure the server admin knows that and DO NOT send a spam recruitment messages.  When messaging someone about recruitment always start a conversation, "hey, how are you?" and then gradually proceed to talk to them about your intentions.
 
 
Steam Groups
The first thing you want to check of course is your friends list.  Check any past communities you've been apart of or talk to some old friends.  Some of them might be interested in joining up with you.  Other than that, your best bet is to check steam groups that have connections to games with similar aspects to Dual Universe.  My military is ran by Arma 3 Milsim guys so I regularly check out several Arma 3 Milsim steam groups.  That and other games that has similar aspects to Dual Universe such as Rust, Ark, Space Engineers or Empyrion.  Now alot of these groups literally have tens of thousands of members so there really isn't a shortage of people to contact.  What you want to do is start sorting through profiles that are interesting to you.  I have my own criteria of contacting people and you guys should make your own as well.  Try to add as much people as you can when going through the steam group member lists, but I suggest only contacting people who are online at the moment.  Whenever I add someone I usually give them a nickname (for example, "Space Engineer Player - 03/31").  I use nicknames because if someone eventually adds me, I want to remember where I added them from and if they don't add me in two weeks then I just delete them.  You also want to be using "Steam Tags."  This will help you separate your actual steam friends from people who you are contacting for recruitment.  Just give them a "recruitment" tag after they add you.
Now once people start adding you back, you want to start messaging them.  ONLY message them when they are online, not in Snooze or Away mode (it might annoy some people).  You want to do recruitment as respectfully and efficiently as possible.  So I suggest that when you message someone you start off by saying something like "Hey, how are you?".  Then you will get either a positive or a negative response, you know how steam players are  .  If they respond in a positive manner then tell them you have an offer and that you are hoping that they could hear you out.  Then proceed to tell them about the game and your group.  If they aren't interested then tell them thank you for listening and to have a good day.  After that just remove them from your friends list.  If someone responds to you in a negative manner then try to twist it around in your favor to make them interested.  If that doesn't work then once again delete them from your friends list.  I usually add around 20-50 people whenever I do a recruitment session.  You'll probably get a 20% friend acceptance rate and out of that you'll get 20% that might be interested.  That's just what it feels like from my experience.
 
I also want to recommend upping your steam profile.  If they see that your profile is an empty page and your messaging them about an offer then they might take it as a scam.  Whereas if you have a decent looking and respectful steam profile with some artwork then they may listen to your offer.
 
Reddit/Other Communities
Now I only did reddit once so I can't help you be too successful at this, but I can tell you just be respectful of any place that you may recruit from.  Try to go into subreddits that can somehow relate to Dual Universe.  Read the rules and make sure your posting in the right place.  The same goes for any other forum/community that you may recruit from.  Always read up on the rules and if there aren't any then try to contact the admin.
 
When I do go hard on recruiting I usually spend around 2 hours a day recruiting on steam and talking to people about the game while at the same time being as respectful as possible.  If your trying to recruit a lot of people then you'll have to spend a lot of time on recruitment.  If your building a small group then I just suggest sticking to the Dual Universe forums and see what you can find here.  There's tons of time before the game get's released so if you just want a small group then waiting and contacting people on here every once in a while might be your best bet.
 
Thanks everyone for reading.  I hope this clears up any confusion and hopefully the group that is actually ruining recruitment for everyone can follow these guidelines.
 
Have a great day!

Greetings Everybody!
 
I am writing this post today in hopes of inspiring you all to recruit respectfully and efficiently.  As of late I have been targeted for bad recruitment practices so I'd like clear my name of all that.
 
Before getting into recruitment I would like to say there are some steps to increase your groups reputation, which in turn will increase your chance of having a successful recruitment session.
1.  If you have a Dual Universe supporter pack then the first thing you want to do is create an organization page over at https://community.dualthegame.com/organizations
2.  Setup a group discord and BE ACTIVE on it.  When a member sees you being active in your group, doing events and working hard to build up your organizations then they will want to be part of the group even more.
3.  Create some content.  If you've never made videos or artwork I would recommend taking some time and learning a little bit so your group can have some content to attract players (or you can ask some of your members for help, you'd be surprised at the level of creativity of some of your members).  For the best example I would look at the Band of Outlaws organization page.  They do a lot of parody work but it's still successful in reaching out to players and enticing them to join their organization.
 
These are just steps you cant take to make your group more attractive.  Try to be creative and I'm sure you can come up with more ways to make your organization appealing.
 
 
Now getting into recruitment practices...
There are several different sources you can go through when recruiting.  In this post I'll be covering each area of recruitment that you can go through, as well as, describing how you should be getting your message across in a positive manner.
 
Dual Universe Forums
This is probably the most obvious method of recruitment.  When recruiting from the forums there are two things you can do.  One is to create an attractive post for your organization and the other is to message new members to the community individually.  Make sure that when you create your forum post, you make your group's intentions clear and attractive as possible.  When you message someone try not to bombard them with too much information, but give them enough to have a quick overview of the organization and the best way to contact you.
What you DON'T want to do while finding new members is to message people that are already part of existing organizations.  Always check the players profile and ensure if they are part of a group or not.  Even check their past posting history.  You might be looking at an old post that's been bumped so always be on the lookout.  If you do happen to message someone that was part of an organization by mistake and they respond to you, just apologize and try to move on.
 
 
Discord
Recruiting from discord can be very tricky and disrespectful if the place your recruiting from doesn't know about it.  If you find a discord community the first thing you want to do is check if they have an advertisement section.  Always read and abide by their rules.  If they don't have an advertisement section then message the discord server's admin about your intentions and see if it's ok to do recruitment from his/her community.  Try to offer incentives so that they will agree to it.  You can ask them to trade players, if their discord is for example a Rust community then tell them that if you have any Rust players that you will send them your way and they should do it vice versa.  Maybe even offer something of monetary value if you think it's worth it.  But I want to say I don't recommend doing that.  In my experience I have not been super successful at discord recruitment but maybe you guys can do it better than me.  If your going to message members individually then make sure the server admin knows that and DO NOT send a spam recruitment messages.  When messaging someone about recruitment always start a conversation, "hey, how are you?" and then gradually proceed to talk to them about your intentions.
 
 
Steam Groups
The first thing you want to check of course is your friends list.  Check any past communities you've been apart of or talk to some old friends.  Some of them might be interested in joining up with you.  Other than that, your best bet is to check steam groups that have connections to games with similar aspects to Dual Universe.  My military is ran by Arma 3 Milsim guys so I regularly check out several Arma 3 Milsim steam groups.  That and other games that has similar aspects to Dual Universe such as Rust, Ark, Space Engineers or Empyrion.  Now alot of these groups literally have tens of thousands of members so there really isn't a shortage of people to contact.  What you want to do is start sorting through profiles that are interesting to you.  I have my own criteria of contacting people and you guys should make your own as well.  Try to add as much people as you can when going through the steam group member lists, but I suggest only contacting people who are online at the moment.  Whenever I add someone I usually give them a nickname (for example, "Space Engineer Player - 03/31").  I use nicknames because if someone eventually adds me, I want to remember where I added them from and if they don't add me in two weeks then I just delete them.  You also want to be using "Steam Tags."  This will help you separate your actual steam friends from people who you are contacting for recruitment.  Just give them a "recruitment" tag after they add you.
Now once people start adding you back, you want to start messaging them.  ONLY message them when they are online, not in Snooze or Away mode (it might annoy some people).  You want to do recruitment as respectfully and efficiently as possible.  So I suggest that when you message someone you start off by saying something like "Hey, how are you?".  Then you will get either a positive or a negative response, you know how steam players are  .  If they respond in a positive manner then tell them you have an offer and that you are hoping that they could hear you out.  Then proceed to tell them about the game and your group.  If they aren't interested then tell them thank you for listening and to have a good day.  After that just remove them from your friends list.  If someone responds to you in a negative manner then try to twist it around in your favor to make them interested.  If that doesn't work then once again delete them from your friends list.  I usually add around 20-50 people whenever I do a recruitment session.  You'll probably get a 20% friend acceptance rate and out of that you'll get 20% that might be interested.  That's just what it feels like from my experience.
 
I also want to recommend upping your steam profile.  If they see that your profile is an empty page and your messaging them about an offer then they might take it as a scam.  Whereas if you have a decent looking and respectful steam profile with some artwork then they may listen to your offer.
 
Reddit/Other Communities
Now I only did reddit once so I can't help you be too successful at this, but I can tell you just be respectful of any place that you may recruit from.  Try to go into subreddits that can somehow relate to Dual Universe.  Read the rules and make sure your posting in the right place.  The same goes for any other forum/community that you may recruit from.  Always read up on the rules and if there aren't any then try to contact the admin.
 
When I do go hard on recruiting I usually spend around 2 hours a day recruiting on steam and talking to people about the game while at the same time being as respectful as possible.  If your trying to recruit a lot of people then you'll have to spend a lot of time on recruitment.  If your building a small group then I just suggest sticking to the Dual Universe forums and see what you can find here.  There's tons of time before the game get's released so if you just want a small group then waiting and contacting people on here every once in a while might be your best bet.
 
Thanks everyone for reading.  I hope this clears up any confusion and hopefully the group that is actually ruining recruitment for everyone can follow these guidelines.
 
Have a great day!

I've seen all sorts of recruitment methodes during my days in WoW and Planetside 2. Basically you've got a few basic styles:
 
• The Hoarder
Mass invite anyone who isn't in a corp. This will annoy some, others will accept out of curiosity. From the second group, only a few remain long enough for you to say 'hi' to. Very effective to gather a large number of members, but low quality membership.
 
• The Street-corner Salesman
Write a basic pitch and contact corpless folks directly. They usually start out very chipper, use "friend" or "buddy" a lot but don't actually mean it. It works on folk that yearn to belong to a group but don't have to social constitution to proactively seek them out themselves.
 
• The Advertisers
They make their corp look extremely appealing and professional. Emanating success and YOU could be a part of that! Of the winning team. That way the corp can filter potential members, choosing whomever can uphold their image of 'success' and make it a reality.
 
• The Trialrunners
A group of core members or an org can take folks and third party on a mission. Then from that mission the core members can assess the performance of the potential new recruits and pitch accordingly.

This is a great point to bring up for people starting groups without anything to bring in.  It does certainly feel like a part time job at some points and I came from a large community with at least 30 members willing to signup right away with me.  Like I said earlier in my post, for me to be successful and fast at recruiting quality players, it usually takes around 2 hours a day on average to recruit just 1-3 members.  And that doesn't count the other time I put into planning and getting content made for the group.
 
Good point

Interesting, but in that topic I also would not just talk about how to approach recruitment, maybe. Now for the following I don't necessarily mean to imply you should add it to your guide of sorts because it could be seen as another topic on its own, detached from recruitment. I simply want to bring it up here for further discussion and to those "on the fence" about it.
 
It's the question:
 
 
Do you want to recruit (and in a wider sense, lead an organization or grow it with "strangers") at all and invest the time in the first place?
 
 
Now, I realize the question or step would be clear to most asking themselves how to recruit, but I'll just throw it in here for all "on the fence" now or later about starting a group, relatively from scratch. If you start with a hand full of people, friends, prior infrastructure, media etc, it is easier.
 
While luck of course also plays a huge role and doing the right things at the right time, I think on average the hardest part is starting from scratch:
 
No (other) members No prior infrastructure to utilize (forums, websites, etc) No prior media work, branding, themes, organization concept (and then) Picking a style or approach that is not so competitive and covered too often or alternatively trying to pick a unique one (from scratch) that is competitive  
I don't want to write an essay at this time, but wanting to start an organization anew, maybe from scratch, is usually not so easy and should (in my book) only be done if you really have a good idea on how to proceed and what to do and / or if you have that "spark" in you that almost compels you to do it.
 
I would, however, not advise just "randomly" trying to start an organization and just throw time and money into something that may never pick up or be a good idea. If you do not approach that with some sort of basic plan and want to pour your heart into it, it'll likely just fail or never really "live" or "grow" as it could be with more "heart" in it.
 
But no matter of subjective success, growing or not, in almost all cases it's basically apparent that maintaining or growing an organization takes time and work.
 
In short, it's not for everybody and before you likely waste time, it might be better to join one of the existing organizations. It's what I do personally in other games. Of course, sometimes you might never know if it works unless you try, on the other hand.
 
----------------------------
 
So in short, I'm not necessarily saying don't try to start other groups (from scratch). I simply mean to say:
 
 
 
If you do, you better have a rough plan and are willing to invest time over the weeks, months, years. And acknowledge that setbacks might occur.
 
 
 

Understood xD.  Hopefully this helps some people with some recruitment though.

New Logo for the group.  Feeling good about this one
 

 
 

Awesome!

xD  Your site looks great!
 
Can you add my new group to your news on your website?  It's called New Genesis and it's brand new.  It's a new nation.

Hello there, my name is Archangel, I am the commander of the New Genesis Space Corps.  New Genesis has just completed its military descriptions and applications, you can visit the page at https://www.new-genesis.org/military
 

Update: 17/01/2018. New version of the forum rules
 
The forum rules have been revamped.
Please read it carefully.

Best Regards,
Nyzaltar.

Reign
Empire

 
Reign:
An Empire in pursuit of power, and more importantly, fun within Dual Universe. We will settle the stars, and provide safety to our citizens. More than that, we're a group of friends hanging out and playing a game, building a world, together.
 
How we operate:
This is an empire, but the citizens still have a say in most major decisions. Unless by universal vote of the High Council, major decisions (laws, declaration of war, policy changes, etc) are announced to the Empire, but not put into effect for at least a week. During that week, all members of the Empire are welcome to contact the Emperor or a member of the High Council and speak their opinions. 
 
There are no minimum activity requirements to join the Empire, even as military personnel (though we do ask that you show up to anything to promise to be at). However, officers and personnel with more duties will be expected to be fairly active. Non-military personnel are free to do as they wish, as long as they follow Imperial Law (the Law will be rather detailed, but citizens are not expected to know every facet of it).
 
Above the law, is the Imperial Code of Honor. This code defines how we can operate, what actions the government can take, as well as some of the more obvious rules for citizens. The Code will never be broken by the Empire, and there are severe punishments for citizens who break it. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ygiHoZNgnh9DLpvlxG_HJ6UtXiUOz_KaE--wyz45PuM/edit?usp=sharing
 
Goals:
Reign pursues Power. Power can take many forms: wealth, might, respect, authority. Reign aims to achieve all, through its Citizens. We want our citizens to grow, develop, expand. Become the greatest in their specialization, be they a gunner, merchant, industrialist, officer, or politician. 
 
To attain this power, we have a few more concrete goals at the launch of the game:
First, our Citizens will consolidate together, and create a temporary home on Alioth. This will only remain our home until we can bring the Empire to space. From here, we will search and find our true home, and settle.

Our next goal will be the creation of the capital city, as well as the industry and infrastructure needed to build our navy. Much of the city will be left to the personal tastes of the Citizens building it, but the capital building itself is in design right now.
 
The true sign of our power will come as we construct our Mothership. As soon as our infrastructure is established, we will begin constructing our navy. At the forefront of our fleet will be a grand Mothership. Reign began with the idea of building a truly massive, powerful ship, and that dream has not gone.
 
Recruitment:
Reign is always welcoming new members. Whatever you aspire to be, we want you.
 
A grand admiral, fleets of massive capital ships following your orders, entire wars swayed by your decisions.
A captain, your ship and crew renowned for prowess on the battlefield.
A miner, trader, industrialist, designing and crafting the greatest quality goods, great wealth in sight.
A marine, pilot, gunner, wielding the great weapons of the empire against our foes.
 
The only requirement to join: you want to have fun.
 
We welcome you, Citizen.

Discord:
https://discord.gg/Kdzcdqb
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Were just a buff crew tbh....
 

 
 

https://dualuniverse.gamepedia.com/Weapon_Unit
 
The gamepedia for dual universe suggests there will be weapons.
 
found an old post from the community manager as well on this
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There's currently no plan to create a voxel editor to develop character weapons.
At the moment, character weapons are planned to be mesh-based, and defined by developers.
The Dev team has already a lot on her plate with our current goals. Maybe far in the future, but we can't promise anything for now.
 
Best regards,
Nyzaltar.
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How will it be secure?
 
Loans etc i understand, but unless money will be a physical object in game, there is literally no reason to put money away with a bank, and no reason for the bank to do it as interest will just make the bank loose money.
 
How on earth will you enforce changes in discord reflecting in game transfers? Even if you could enforce it, you have to physical be at where the resources are to get them, unless you hire someone to bring them to you, costing people who use this service more. In game local markets will prosper for this reason.
 
While i can see in game stocks in orgs becoming a thing through private investment groups such as luminous, i cant see why someone would do it through your system instead of contacting the organisation directly, as for a business, which you are, to profit, money has to be took from somewhere, so it is likely you would be charging a fee on top of it.

The Nation of New Genesis is still looking for key positions in the Ministry. 
 
If anyone who is interested in what one of these positions may offer, and what your duties in the nations government would be please feel free to contact me.  With several positions open your dream job might be with us.  
 
- Prime Minister Spyborg

> READ THIS POST IN ENGLISH OR IN FRENCH <
 
Eisengrind Info Update #2
Themen:
Die Kooperative - Umbenennung und Forenupgrade New Berlin Eisengrind Nützliche Links  

 
1. Die Kooperative [OORP]
 
Was íst die Kooperative?
Die Kooperative ist eine auf den Grundwerten von Freiheit und Gleichheit beruhende faire und zwanglose Gemeinschaft von deutschsprachigen Spielern und Organisationen. Teilnehmer gehen keine Mitgliedschaft im klassischen Clanverständnis ein. Die Kooperative ist ein Anlaufpunkt für vielschichtige deutschsprachige Bekanntschaften, egal ob es diplomatische, geschäftliche oder einfach nur freundschaftliche Kontakte sind. Nichts muss, alles kann ist das Motto!
 
Die Koalition heißt jetzt die Kooperative
Die Koalition war der erste Name mit der wir unsere Idee vorgestellt haben. Das war uns jedoch zu konkret und da wir eine kooperative aber zwanlose Gemeinschaft sind, die nur da zusammen agiert, wo jeder einen Sinn sieht, lag die Bezeichnung Kooperative nahe. Der Artikel “Die” gehört mit dazu und ist für englischsprachige vielleicht erstmal irritierend, aber einfach zu merken.  
 
Umzug auf bessere Forensoftware
Auf der neuen Plattform http://dual.eisengrind.de werden in Zukunft Nachrichten, Handelsangebote oder einfach nur Klatsch und Tratsch ausgetauscht. Für alle bisherigen Teilnehmer: Leider ist durch den Umzug eine Neuregistrierung notwendig. Seitdem Umzug auf die neue Plattform sind einige Features hinzugekommen. Mehr Informationen darüber sind hier zu finden: eisengrind.de/forum/index.php?thread/99-umzug-die-kooperative-zieht-ins-neue-forum/
 
Hinweis: Wer ausschließlich nur Dual Universe Inhalte sehen möchte, soll bei der Registrierung den Haken bei “Dual Universe - Die Kooperative” setzen und nicht bei “Eisengrind Life” (anderes Spiel).
 
 

2. New Berlin [RP]
 
Die Eisengrind Group als modernes Dienstleistungsunternehmen mit Ausrichtung auf den gesamten intergalaktischen Handel betreibt über die Eisengrind Real Estate den Marktführer bei Verwaltung, Verkauf und Betrieb von freien Immobilien. Wir sind Ihr Partner wenn es um den Erwerb von Baugrundstücken, Wohn - und Gewerbegrundstücken und den dazugehörigen Bauten geht. Wir waren es, die den BER im Jahre 2528 doch noch durch einen vollständigen Neubau an den Start gebracht haben und das nach nur dreijähriger Bauzeit.
 
Wir bieten Ihnen Finanzierungsmodelle, die für jeden Geldbeutel das passende Konzept bereithalten. Vom schlüsselfertigen Einfamilienhaus für die wichtigsten Menschen in ihrem Leben bis zum intergalaktischen Raumhafen, wir bieten von Planung über Projektion, Finanzierung und Bauleitung bis hin zum fertigen Objekt die ganze Bandbreite der erforderlichen Dienstleistungen.
In diesem Expose wollen wir ihnen exklusiv lebenslange und kostenfreie Baugrundstücke zur freien Verfügung auf dem Heimatplaneten Alioth anbieten. Sie haben uns richtig verstanden, Sie bekommen kostenfreie Baugrundstücke.
 
Das Projekt New Berlin geht dabei auf den großartigen Architekten Mohammed Manfred Lee zurück, der einst die Pläne des neuen Berlins gezeichnet und vorgestellt hat. Die Architektur folgt dabei klar formalen Linien und ist vor allem funktional, mit dem Ziel die Adressierungen der Grundstücke mit der Erden-Uhr zu visualisieren. Zum Gedenken an die alten Zeiten bewegen wir uns noch heute räumlich in ihr. Die Süddeutsche nannte Lees Entwurf, der den Architekturpreis der Eisengrind Group gewann: “ein herausragendes Mahnmal an Vergänglichkeit und neuer Hoffnung!”
 

 
Sichern Sie sich heute noch ihr exklusives Grundstück auf Alioth mit Fußnähe zum Arkship, indem Sie sich als Unterstützer von New Berlin verpflichten. Wir suchen viele starke und fleißige Hände die uns direkt nach der Landung des Arkships bei der Herstellung einer Territory Control Unit helfen. Unser Ziel ist es, New Berlin so nah wie möglich am Arkship zu errichten. Ihr Fleiß entscheidet mit darüber wie nah Ihr Grundstück am Arkship liegt.
 
Jeder Unterstützer von New Berlin erhält ein Wohngrundstück von 256m² im Gebiet LVL B, plus je nach Leistungen extra Fläche für sich, seine Orga oder einfach zum Weitervermieten. Sie erhalten zusätzlich ein Zertifikat welches Sie als Eigentümer des Grundstückes ausweist. Als Unterstützer der deutschsprachigen Plattform “Die Kooperative” werden Grundstücke für gemeinnützige Einrichtungen bereitgestellt, welche von “Die Kooperative” Teilnehmern und Anwohnern genutzt werden können.  
 
Jetzt einfach auf dual.eisengrind.de registrieren und unter eisengrind.de/index.php?user-group-apply/60 als New Berlin Unterstützer eintragen.

Hinweis: Seitens der Betreiber des Arkship bestehen angeblich Ideen Territorien auf Alioth mit einer allgemeinen Quanta-Steuer zu belegen. Falls dies eintreffen sollte werden die Lasten mit einem fairen Verteilungsschlüssel gemeinsam getragen.
 
Wieso New Berlin und nicht einfach irgendein anderes X beliebiges Hexagon mit Freunden besiedeln?
Freundschaften können zu Ende gehen. Genau so wie man in Organisationen in Ungnade fallen kann. Eine Zwangsenteignung ist dabei stets zu befürchten. Zwischenmenschliche Probleme, Weltanschauung und/oder politische Absichten finden jedoch keinen Platz in der geschäftlichen Beziehung von Client und Eisengrind - sie bleiben daher stets außen vor. Die Reputation und Ideologische Ausrichtung von Eisengrind erlaubt es nicht ihren Klienten unzufrieden zu stellen. Als Bewohner von New Berlin ist man kein Mitglied eines Staates oder einer Organisation. Es wird lediglich die Einhaltung der Netiquette erwartet.
 
 

3. Eisengrind [OORP]
 
Eisengrind ist eine Role-Play Community die es sich zum Ziel gemacht hat, allgemeines Rollenspiel in Online Games zu fördern. Unsere Geschichte begann im Umfeld der Arma 3 Life Roleplay Community. Aktuell entwickeln wir eine Mod welche ähnliche Ansätze wie Dual Universe hat, wie zum Beispiel, dass man sich alles craften kann und auf NPC Händler verzichtet wird, genau wie dass jeder Spieler die Geschichte mitgestaltet und es keinen festen Ablauf einer Story gibt. Als kleines Projekt was schon Schwierigkeiten hatte mit diesem vermeintlich anarchistischen Konzept ehrenamtliche Scripter zu finden, freuen wir uns, dass ein so großes Projekt wie Dual Universe die Finanzierung durch hat und diesen Weg konsequent geht.
 
Wir von Eisengrind sehen unsere Aufgabe darin eine Bühne fürs Schauspiel zu bieten, deshalb versuchen wir für die deutschsprachigen Spieler von Dual Universe, Anreize zu schaffen sich in einer Rolle zu probieren. Die Eisengrind Community ist also keine feste Organisation, denn selbst innerhalb der Community spielen die Spieler teilweise gegeneinander. In der Regel findet das Schauspiel auch weniger in der eigenen Gruppe statt, als mehr mit der Interaktion anderer Gruppen oder Personen. Somit ist gerade auch Roleplay das Mittel der Wahl um stilvoll Streitigkeiten auszutragen, ohne persönlich zu werden oder gar Fiktion und Realität zu verwechseln.
 
 

4. Nützliche Links
 
Die Kooperative Forum
http://dual.eisengrind.de
 
Die Kooperative Discord
https://discord.gg/PkaN3th
 
Deutsche Übersetzungen zu Video Tutorials
https://goo.gl/bsDrVk
 
Dual Universe Back Story (auf englisch)
https://dual-static-web.s3.amazonaws.com/static/pdf/Dual-Universe-English.pdf
 
 

You rang?

lol but yes, the video is so clean and the female AI voice is a nice touch.  Hope Project Genesis flourishes! 

Welcome to New Genesis
(PvP)
 
NG is a tight-knit, focused, PvP org looking for new members. Our group has been here since pre-alpha and been holding it down ever since. Along with our allies, we've secured every plasma strategic location for the duration of Beta.
 
We come together to run an unstoppable force in PvP. Outside of that, everyone runs their own economy, therefore we help each member to become a knowledgeable and independent player.
The type of player we are looking for is the grinder, the non-casual, independent and teamwork pvp oriented person. Those wanting to join will be put on a trial period where activity and voice requirements are a must.
 
If this sounds like the group for you, send me a DM on discord or join through our invite.
Contact - @TMA#0001
 
https://discord.gg/f4vccKU
 
Enjoy the comedic video