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Speaking of promotion (beyond moral issues of this particular event).
 
Simple fact: DU promoted on its "landmark-style" aspect for years now, every mucking day Twitter and FB have have:
 
"Look at this another fancy crap built by another voxelmancer, DU is so amazing blablabla". For some reason its generaly only kind of post DU SMM guy (?) bother to master.
 
Yet, its also safe to assume, this "promotion" not exactly working. Millions of players not storming our front door. Sure, here and there some nerd get exited over his own Death Star with blackjack and hookers, but majority of outside gamers (who can join us) I think want some actual (idealy -- comptetitive -- this is MMO) gameplay action.

Speaking of promotion (beyond moral issues of this particular event).
 
Simple fact: DU promoted on its "landmark-style" aspect for years now, every mucking day Twitter and FB have have:
 
"Look at this another fancy crap built by another voxelmancer, DU is so amazing blablabla". For some reason its generaly only kind of post DU SMM guy (?) bother to master.
 
Yet, its also safe to assume, this "promotion" not exactly working. Millions of players not storming our front door. Sure, here and there some nerd get exited over his own Death Star with blackjack and hookers, but majority of outside gamers (who can join us) I think want some actual (idealy -- comptetitive -- this is MMO) gameplay action.

Its simple, especialy with EVE as obvious reference point.
 
In EVE chunk of people doing all kind of things for shits in giggles (because they can), but game have so much relevant venues of content (both PvP and PvE), that most players busy with meaningful goals and, in working on them, forming this emergent, interconnected gameplay. That, with some caveats, works for years.
 
DU, currently, has so little content (for most players, but especialy PvP ones), that only things that remains -- this shits and giggles (in most primitive forms), cringy 30 k speed piracy and rare "organized jousting" to not die from boredom.
 
So its somewhat tragicomical to put any responsability on Sylva with it here. OR, if we following this line of logic, with even more prejustice you can ask why all these emperors, presidents, ceos, and other useless muckers with presumably hundreds of peoples orgs not "improving quality of gameworld" or something. Totaly irresponsable, right? 
 
On side note I personaly not fan of "crashings" too and not find them anyway amusing.
 
But generaly its much better to ask NQ why game still so little to offer on god knows which year of development.

Oh, I do not doubt it. Does not do anything to discard that anyone thinking or saying that does not get that this has nothing to do with EVE actually, it has to do with how a live service game developer IMO should deal with exploits. But you know that and I know that you know that I know that you know so we're good ..   
 
 
True.. very true
 
I absolutely am in a love-hate relationship with DU right now. EVE, I log into now and then.. look around and log back out.. I hope to get back to DU again but do not see me getting back into EVE..
 
Now, I have work to do in Valheim
 

I bet in some new (false advert, as usual) trailer on words "player driven economy and markets" they use scripted footage of bots happly using market terminals and bot ships flying in mock skyscrapper city in unrealistic trejectories simulating some super-activity, that never happens. And totaly NOT these sickening junkyards of real in game markets.

Its simple, especialy with EVE as obvious reference point.
 
In EVE chunk of people doing all kind of things for shits in giggles (because they can), but game have so much relevant venues of content (both PvP and PvE), that most players busy with meaningful goals and, in working on them, forming this emergent, interconnected gameplay. That, with some caveats, works for years.
 
DU, currently, has so little content (for most players, but especialy PvP ones), that only things that remains -- this shits and giggles (in most primitive forms), cringy 30 k speed piracy and rare "organized jousting" to not die from boredom.
 
So its somewhat tragicomical to put any responsability on Sylva with it here. OR, if we following this line of logic, with even more prejustice you can ask why all these emperors, presidents, ceos, and other useless muckers with presumably hundreds of peoples orgs not "improving quality of gameworld" or something. Totaly irresponsable, right? 
 
On side note I personaly not fan of "crashings" too and not find them anyway amusing.
 
But generaly its much better to ask NQ why game still so little to offer on god knows which year of development.

Its simple, especialy with EVE as obvious reference point.
 
In EVE chunk of people doing all kind of things for shits in giggles (because they can), but game have so much relevant venues of content (both PvP and PvE), that most players busy with meaningful goals and, in working on them, forming this emergent, interconnected gameplay. That, with some caveats, works for years.
 
DU, currently, has so little content (for most players, but especialy PvP ones), that only things that remains -- this shits and giggles (in most primitive forms), cringy 30 k speed piracy and rare "organized jousting" to not die from boredom.
 
So its somewhat tragicomical to put any responsability on Sylva with it here. OR, if we following this line of logic, with even more prejustice you can ask why all these emperors, presidents, ceos, and other useless muckers with presumably hundreds of peoples orgs not "improving quality of gameworld" or something. Totaly irresponsable, right? 
 
On side note I personaly not fan of "crashings" too and not find them anyway amusing.
 
But generaly its much better to ask NQ why game still so little to offer on god knows which year of development.

We fantasised a lot during Alpha (and even before it) about things like this. Only problem, with NQ developing priorities it all sounds almost impossible (or so far in future, that currently irrelevant).
 
Thing is, all this stuff is "meat on bones", nice thing to have, when base is working.
 
NQ development still stuck on level of macro "bones" systems, and even there they suffering from some sort of chronic calcium defeciency.

We fantasised a lot during Alpha (and even before it) about things like this. Only problem, with NQ developing priorities it all sounds almost impossible (or so far in future, that currently irrelevant).
 
Thing is, all this stuff is "meat on bones", nice thing to have, when base is working.
 
NQ development still stuck on level of macro "bones" systems, and even there they suffering from some sort of chronic calcium defeciency.

We fantasised a lot during Alpha (and even before it) about things like this. Only problem, with NQ developing priorities it all sounds almost impossible (or so far in future, that currently irrelevant).
 
Thing is, all this stuff is "meat on bones", nice thing to have, when base is working.
 
NQ development still stuck on level of macro "bones" systems, and even there they suffering from some sort of chronic calcium defeciency.

We fantasised a lot during Alpha (and even before it) about things like this. Only problem, with NQ developing priorities it all sounds almost impossible (or so far in future, that currently irrelevant).
 
Thing is, all this stuff is "meat on bones", nice thing to have, when base is working.
 
NQ development still stuck on level of macro "bones" systems, and even there they suffering from some sort of chronic calcium defeciency.

We asked this ourselfs (mostly) and NQ endless times since Alpha. This whole forum in this regard feels like sort of "Groundhog Day" sort of insanity. @Kruzer formulated quite well: likely NQ so preoccupied with survival level issues, that this inconvinience (even if very irritating for players) shoved shomewhere deep into "can wait" list.

Is this still going on? NQ!! Give them creative mode already! Single player Steam Early Access! Max 20 co op private servers!

On spherical planets, extreme weather, fog, dynamic liquids like lava would be nice. 
 
Edit: also ancient stone cities. 
 
That frozen cloud world from interstellar was nice. 
 
But i would love to see a asteroid belt 200SU long
 
Or a broken planet with a huge chunk separated by a 20km gap. 

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Time-based skills pretty much is alt milking, even if devs trying to make faces like its totaly not the case. From pure disign perspective of 2020s game trends (and audience) its more or less horrible choice for newcomer game as I see it. This age demand fresh ideas, dynamics, interactivity to capture people attention.
 

We asked this ourselfs (mostly) and NQ endless times since Alpha. This whole forum in this regard feels like sort of "Groundhog Day" sort of insanity. @Kruzer formulated quite well: likely NQ so preoccupied with survival level issues, that this inconvinience (even if very irritating for players) shoved shomewhere deep into "can wait" list.

We asked this ourselfs (mostly) and NQ endless times since Alpha. This whole forum in this regard feels like sort of "Groundhog Day" sort of insanity. @Kruzer formulated quite well: likely NQ so preoccupied with survival level issues, that this inconvinience (even if very irritating for players) shoved shomewhere deep into "can wait" list.

Feeling bad for SW fans, but it was kinda... obviously expected? Such events never safe in open world PvP games (by my 20 years MMO experience -- some "crashing" is always happens). Only ways to make them more viable: combination of secrety, smart choosing of place, diplomacy, sometimes -- armed guards to fend-off random intruders. And even with all this something can go horribly wrong. Its just risky buisness (that demands plan B).
 
 

I don't visit the markets much and when I do get out to market 6 or 7 on Alioth its somewhat laggy but tolerable. I park a short walk away and all is fine.  
 
That's my experience with my system and internet. I see people are having troubles and even leaving the game because they are crashing or just have unplayable frames on the big markets. 
 
I don't have an answer and I'm trying to leave my opinion out of this. I want people to vote and be heard by NQ if this is a major issue for some players.

My nephew drew a picture of the Millennium Falcon with crayons, should i call the cops?

Yeah DU will end well... DU Creative Mode on Steam Early Access Reeee))))

This is question, that torments me for long time. 
 
Who will lead forces of light and order in our little space opera? Who is worthy of proverbial sword in stone?
 
I think target audience so starved for some competent "lawful good" leadership, that dozens will flock to fight under banner of such champion, if he/she trully arisen in our midst. Yet, so far most pretenders not succeed and I won't even start on all buffoonery we sadly suffered from this corner.
 
 
 
 
 
 

This is question, that torments me for long time. 
 
Who will lead forces of light and order in our little space opera? Who is worthy of proverbial sword in stone?
 
I think target audience so starved for some competent "lawful good" leadership, that dozens will flock to fight under banner of such champion, if he/she trully arisen in our midst. Yet, so far most pretenders not succeed and I won't even start on all buffoonery we sadly suffered from this corner.
 
 
 
 
 
 

This is question, that torments me for long time. 
 
Who will lead forces of light and order in our little space opera? Who is worthy of proverbial sword in stone?
 
I think target audience so starved for some competent "lawful good" leadership, that dozens will flock to fight under banner of such champion, if he/she trully arisen in our midst. Yet, so far most pretenders not succeed and I won't even start on all buffoonery we sadly suffered from this corner.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Feeling bad for SW fans, but it was kinda... obviously expected? Such events never safe in open world PvP games (by my 20 years MMO experience -- some "crashing" is always happens). Only ways to make them more viable: combination of secrety, smart choosing of place, diplomacy, sometimes -- armed guards to fend-off random intruders. And even with all this something can go horribly wrong. Its just risky buisness (that demands plan B).