Endstar

NQ can sort out the details of how but this approach that I have advocated for before seems to address most of the points of view on both sides of this matter. Make the gate take 180 days. This gives new player 6 months or more all by themselves. 

Its not really lucrative to hunt ships. We spend more in Fuel and ammunition than the majority of ships are worth

How do you win in DU ?

Not sure being jelly of others is any reason to wipe.
 
Today it is missions, yesterday it was schematics, last year it was mega nodes, in the NDA days it was REDACTED... In two years from now there will be another long list of things people did to push an advantage to the max.
 
I hope people stop trying to think they can win at game that has no win condition and just play and have fun. 
 

Not sure being jelly of others is any reason to wipe.
 
Today it is missions, yesterday it was schematics, last year it was mega nodes, in the NDA days it was REDACTED... In two years from now there will be another long list of things people did to push an advantage to the max.
 
I hope people stop trying to think they can win at game that has no win condition and just play and have fun. 
 

I hope fun is or becomes a absolute requirement to any game additions or changes. A simple method to gage if this change is adding fun or removing it should exist for every game adjustment. 

It would be super fun if we could get mega nodes on asteroids. Make them rare but possible. The game loop of exploring for a mega was a super fun loop. Players really want the possibility to hit a huge score it keeps them engaged longer. Mega nodes where that in DU and some fun went with them. Mining a mega node over the week the asteroids is in game would bring this lost fun back. 

It would be super fun if we could get mega nodes on asteroids. Make them rare but possible. The game loop of exploring for a mega was a super fun loop. Players really want the possibility to hit a huge score it keeps them engaged longer. Mega nodes where that in DU and some fun went with them. Mining a mega node over the week the asteroids is in game would bring this lost fun back. 

It would be super fun if we could get mega nodes on asteroids. Make them rare but possible. The game loop of exploring for a mega was a super fun loop. Players really want the possibility to hit a huge score it keeps them engaged longer. Mega nodes where that in DU and some fun went with them. Mining a mega node over the week the asteroids is in game would bring this lost fun back. 

I hope fun is or becomes a absolute requirement to any game additions or changes. A simple method to gage if this change is adding fun or removing it should exist for every game adjustment. 

It would be super fun if we could get mega nodes on asteroids. Make them rare but possible. The game loop of exploring for a mega was a super fun loop. Players really want the possibility to hit a huge score it keeps them engaged longer. Mega nodes where that in DU and some fun went with them. Mining a mega node over the week the asteroids is in game would bring this lost fun back. 

Please do not wipe. Release with a new star system. Give existing players Helios access as we have today with no immediate way to get to the new system. Start new players on the new system (maybe let them pick in case they have friends in Helios). Provide a star gate type tech with a 90-180 day total craft time. Connect the systems months after release. 
 

It would be super fun if we could get mega nodes on asteroids. Make them rare but possible. The game loop of exploring for a mega was a super fun loop. Players really want the possibility to hit a huge score it keeps them engaged longer. Mega nodes where that in DU and some fun went with them. Mining a mega node over the week the asteroids is in game would bring this lost fun back. 

Please do not wipe. Release with a new star system. Give existing players Helios access as we have today with no immediate way to get to the new system. Start new players on the new system (maybe let them pick in case they have friends in Helios). Provide a star gate type tech with a 90-180 day total craft time. Connect the systems months after release. 
 

Please do not wipe. Release with a new star system. Give existing players Helios access as we have today with no immediate way to get to the new system. Start new players on the new system (maybe let them pick in case they have friends in Helios). Provide a star gate type tech with a 90-180 day total craft time. Connect the systems months after release. 
 

It would be super fun if we could get mega nodes on asteroids. Make them rare but possible. The game loop of exploring for a mega was a super fun loop. Players really want the possibility to hit a huge score it keeps them engaged longer. Mega nodes where that in DU and some fun went with them. Mining a mega node over the week the asteroids is in game would bring this lost fun back. 

I hope fun is or becomes a absolute requirement to any game additions or changes. A simple method to gage if this change is adding fun or removing it should exist for every game adjustment. 

If you think Minecraft + Eve sounds bad, then i would forget about Dual Universe and never look back.
 
Because that's the dream. 
 
We're only about halfway there, at best.  But that's where we're going.
 
If you don't like the sound of it, you're wasting your time

I have to say i'm having a hard time understanding this.
 
When you say you're discussing a wipe internally, do you mean that you're discussing whether there is, or might be a technical reason that would require a wipe?  
 
Or are you discussing the possibility of wiping current customer's progress, for the purpose of providing a "fresh start" for perspective new customers?
 
The last clear statement that we were given was that you would do your best not to wipe our progress.  And I've been playing the game with that statement in mind, since then.
 
Saying that you are having a discussion, without clarifying which of those discussions you are having, is just throwing more gasoline on the fire.
 
 
 
 

I haven't done any wreck searching myself, but I agree with previous posters. Make salvaging a viable game loop for people to enjoy.
 
However - the game also needs an element sink. Once built, a ship is forever unless you PvP. There's such a huge amount of elements in player's pockets right now it's not even funny.
 
Add wear and tear to elements and let us RECYCLE them into the a percentage of the parts they were made of (not ore). This would open up for another game loop between salvager and manufacturer.

Best thing to help the reason for this thread would be...
 
Many more options to allow us to make game content and quests/missions. In DU you the player create the content. We need much more tools to create this type of content. 

Dare I say...
The Vertex tool is quite well done.
it is easy to tell which vertex is selected.
it has the two BIG asks i needed. you can set the step (grid) size to ONE. you can see the current location of the vertex in numerical format.
 
All in all this rocks.
ps, the release notes failed to mention that holding down the ctrl key when pushing the directionals will quad-step the increment. handy.
 
Thank you folks!!!!!!!!
Now if you would just add the "hide the hand tool in build mode" checkbox I have been BEGGING FOR, I will truly be a happy camper.
 
Thanks much.
Tordan

Hello everyone,
 
Just to let you all know that we are looking into possibilities to make the element overlap detection a little less aggressive.
More news on that will follow soon.
 
- Deckard

As long as I can remember rockets have been used for fun and fun alone in DU. 

If you wipe now and go forward 18 months what changes? 
 
More people will leave the game from a wipe than would if we did not.