Wolfram

This could be a very interesting idea. I will share it with the team.

With the return of element lifetimes the development of Lua flight scripts (e.g. flying_construct.conf) carries the risk of excessive costs.

The solution would be to provide a VR environment similar to that in the "Challenges" tab of the Surrogate Pod UI, but where the ships have no DRM restrictions on their controllers. The code loaded into those controllers should not be saved to the server, but copy & paste should be permitted. Loading of configuration from the lua/autoconf/custom folder should be allowed.

Offering a variety of ships would be great and if a variety of elements (radars, guns etc.) were available to modify the ships it would magnify the development possibilities.

This is the output of a script that dumps all global variables. Lua coders may find this somewhat useful.
 
The script was run in r0.21.2 on a hovercraft seat that has 2 fuel tanks and a radar linked. Some functions were called with pcall. The first value indicates whether the call was successful, the second is the actual return value or the error message.
 
 
To see only elements' functions, visit this topic.
 
Dumping script
The script used for dumping is based on something I found on Stack Overflow, with some extensions.
 
In unit start(): https://gist.github.com/d-lua-stuff/180707c172382d06d2c80213a1638f66
In system update():
coroutine.resume(dumping_coroutine) The script will run for a few seconds and then automatically turn off. Output is saved to Dual Universe 's log files in %LOCALAPPDATA%\NQ\DualUniverse\log
 
Dump analyzer
To avoid having to look through the logs manually, a Python script was written. It extracts the output of the globals dumping script from Dual Universe's log files, and creates separate files for dumped globals and for members of each linked element.
 
Usage:
pip install six python dump_analyzer.py C:\Path\To\Log\File.xml Change log
2020-09-01. Posted the first version outside the NDA forums section.

Honestly, I didn't really like the honeycomb changes, it took quite a bit of realism out of the building aspect, and I really liked the realism aspect of this game. I understand things need balancing and well, even though some things like the max speed cap and floor aren't very realistic, I understand they are balance etc, now HC mass should not me messed with. If you guys want to balance it, why not do it by only changing resistances and HP? We don't need any more dumbed-down systems on his game.
 
 
I have to agree with @Deathknight here, I'm honestly tired of those "discussion" threads where you ask us about feedback but it goes nowhere, feels like we're just here talking with the walls or a door. I understand you all want to be more "open" and in-touch with the community, but if you're not going to do anything with feedback just don't ask for it, it's gonna save everyone's time.

Hello, Noveans!
 
With the launch of Dual Universe a month away, we want to talk about how to prepare for the upcoming server reset.
 
We’ve outlined the parts of your gameplay that you’ll keep post-reset in our announcement video and in the letter from our Creative Director. Today, we want to expand on that and discuss how best to prepare for the reset and how to get the most out of it.
 
PREPARE YOUR CORE BLUEPRINTS

Make a Core Blueprint of every construct you want to keep and make sure that you store it in your nanopack or in a container on a construct that you own, though we advise that you keep them in your nanopack as it’s the safest place to store them.
 
If you have Core Blueprints in the care of others or in other locations around Helios, don’t forget to gather them, should you want to keep them. Being the original owner of a Core Blueprint has no impact on Core Blueprints outside of your possession. You will keep only those Core Blueprints in your nanopack and owned containers.
 
The same applies to organization-owned Core Blueprints. If you’re a superlegate of an organization, make sure that you store your Core Blueprints in your nanopack or that they’re stored in a container on a construct owned by your organization, though again, we advise that you keep them in your nanopack.
 
PREPARE YOUR ORGANIZATIONS

Make sure that each organization you want to keep has a player as its superlegate. Any organization without a player as its superlegate will be lost at the reset.
 
Make a list of members you would like to reinvite after the reset. Though any organization with a player as its superlegate will remain after the reset with its Core Blueprints, Name, Logo, and Manifesto intact, membership will be reset.
 
You can use the in-game contacts system (which will remain after the reset) to keep track of your members or simply make a list outside of the game. 
 
DON’T WASTE TIME PREPARING YOUR MINING UNITS

We will reset the ore distribution on each body in Helios. To find good spots for your mining units, you’ll need to re-build your Territory Scanners and hunt the tiles down. None of your pre-reset knowledge of hotspots will be valid post-reset.
 
PIONEER PACKS AND THE TALENT ACCELERATOR 

The Pioneer Packs' items will be delivered in the first month after launch. If you’d like your collectibles, you’ll need an active subscription, and you’ll need to log into the game during its first month after release to receive them.
 
The talent point and quanta awards will be given on the final day of each month for the first six months of release. Again, you’ll need an active subscription to receive them.
 
Finally, if you've subscribed to the game, ensure that you have at least six months of talent training queued up. The talent point accelerator event, which is open to all players, will boost your talent point acquisition in the first six months of launch by:
100% for the first month 50% for months two, three, and four 25% for months five and six   
The launch of Dual Universe will likely be the last time in the game's life where the economy will be an even playing field. Though beta players and backers will gain some advantage by the end of the six-month launch period, the start of the launch will see every player on the same starting line. There’s never been a better time to join! 
 
We’re excited to see you in Helios on the 27th of September. In the meantime, don’t hesitate to share your feedback on reset preparation here.

The fact DU makes it so easy for anyone to track someone else is why so many don't go out and risk out in PVP zone. NQ doesn't seem to understand that, they keep trying to make encounters an easy thing to see if players get involved in PVP without realizing this will only end up with the PVP space being a place exclusive to PVP players, with nobody else wanting to get into there with risk of being camped/scanned/whatever.
 
I'm not even bothered if some PVP org decides to claim one asteroid as theirs or camp it waiting for players to come there and gank them, that should be valid gameplay, same as if someone wants to patrol the areas around asteroids or hunt down someone carrying good cargo, but like everything else PVP and piracy should need active work from players and not only consist of someone looking at the DSAT middle column and saying "ok boys, let's go to this asteroid because someone just landed there". Why should I, as a miner, be forced to spend 40 minutes slow boating to some asteroid plus a extra minutes trying to pin-point its location and even more extracting its contents, which takes some time for T3+, while on the other side some random kid can just automatically know I set foot there and come directly at me to take my stuff, without barely any work on his part other than camping the DSAT screen?
 
DU needs more PVP interactions? Definitely. But pushing players into it hoping they will start participating more will just end up with the opposite effect.

I've put together a brief infographic to help new players figure out what they could do after finishing the intro tutorial. It's not meant to be a full guide, just a jumping off point to give some direction. Image here, but also on Reddit in case it gets downsized.
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/DualUniverse/comments/wqxu0s/
 

So, a bit of feedback here on how the current DSAT/Asteroid Mining experience works and what could be improved to make it more interesting with the upcoming release.
 
Spawn asteroids across the week instead of just Saturday
Basically, instead of spawning all asteroids over a single day of the week, you do it over a week, maybe even have a timer showing on the DSAT window showing how many days until that specific asteroid leaves the Helios system. This would "funnel" more people into the asteroids, which for any asteroids outside the safe zone would mean more chance of encounters, since almost always people would want to be the first on those "tasty" T4/T5 rocks, and also allow for those who don't have much time during the weekend (or just prefer playing during the week) to have a chance at participating on asteroid hunting too!
 
Remove the middle-section (recently discovered) from the DSAT screen
Simply make the DSAT show an asteroid as either discovered or not discovered. If you still want to give a timer before publishing then fine, but don't make that timer public. Having participated on asteroid hunts before the only two uses I noticed for it are either letting people know that something was found, so they might go for another asteroid, or for ganking and piracy. We don't need yet another camping-based PvP mechanic in the game.
 
Allow us to retract/close the DSAT antenna when not tracking anything
This is more of a cosmetic thing than functional one, but would be nice to be able to retract the antenna when the DSAT is not in use, would fit designs much better.
 
Well, those are my 2 cents on things that could be improved, I'm sure other players might have more ideas, but thought about bringing up that discussion out of Discord into a more official place...

So, a bit of feedback here on how the current DSAT/Asteroid Mining experience works and what could be improved to make it more interesting with the upcoming release.
 
Spawn asteroids across the week instead of just Saturday
Basically, instead of spawning all asteroids over a single day of the week, you do it over a week, maybe even have a timer showing on the DSAT window showing how many days until that specific asteroid leaves the Helios system. This would "funnel" more people into the asteroids, which for any asteroids outside the safe zone would mean more chance of encounters, since almost always people would want to be the first on those "tasty" T4/T5 rocks, and also allow for those who don't have much time during the weekend (or just prefer playing during the week) to have a chance at participating on asteroid hunting too!
 
Remove the middle-section (recently discovered) from the DSAT screen
Simply make the DSAT show an asteroid as either discovered or not discovered. If you still want to give a timer before publishing then fine, but don't make that timer public. Having participated on asteroid hunts before the only two uses I noticed for it are either letting people know that something was found, so they might go for another asteroid, or for ganking and piracy. We don't need yet another camping-based PvP mechanic in the game.
 
Allow us to retract/close the DSAT antenna when not tracking anything
This is more of a cosmetic thing than functional one, but would be nice to be able to retract the antenna when the DSAT is not in use, would fit designs much better.
 
Well, those are my 2 cents on things that could be improved, I'm sure other players might have more ideas, but thought about bringing up that discussion out of Discord into a more official place...

Crafting in DU is quite deep and things may be quite complicated, specially on the Nanopack. It's going to be KEY on release, though, as everyone will be using theirs to rebuild civilization.
A Quality of Life improvement that could come to aid on that, specially for newbies, is adding a second button near "Add to Queue" called "Queue All" or something like that.
 
Basically it would behave just like when you queue talents, all things that are still "pending" would be added to the crafting queue in the Nanopack in the required amount of batches.
I know it's not something so big deal when you can just estimate what's needed, but when crafting lots of complex stuff it starts adding up quickly.
 
Also, another improvement that would help is having an item to craft even though the previous items on the queue are "stuck":

 
It's a minor thing, but it's so annoying having to keep moving things around and organizing crafting when you have other things to focus on, such as mining and rebuilding civ

The fact DU makes it so easy for anyone to track someone else is why so many don't go out and risk out in PVP zone. NQ doesn't seem to understand that, they keep trying to make encounters an easy thing to see if players get involved in PVP without realizing this will only end up with the PVP space being a place exclusive to PVP players, with nobody else wanting to get into there with risk of being camped/scanned/whatever.
 
I'm not even bothered if some PVP org decides to claim one asteroid as theirs or camp it waiting for players to come there and gank them, that should be valid gameplay, same as if someone wants to patrol the areas around asteroids or hunt down someone carrying good cargo, but like everything else PVP and piracy should need active work from players and not only consist of someone looking at the DSAT middle column and saying "ok boys, let's go to this asteroid because someone just landed there". Why should I, as a miner, be forced to spend 40 minutes slow boating to some asteroid plus a extra minutes trying to pin-point its location and even more extracting its contents, which takes some time for T3+, while on the other side some random kid can just automatically know I set foot there and come directly at me to take my stuff, without barely any work on his part other than camping the DSAT screen?
 
DU needs more PVP interactions? Definitely. But pushing players into it hoping they will start participating more will just end up with the opposite effect.

Imagine adding a real time sound element like sonar/echo location/ping on a submarine.  To the trained ear the tone, amplitude, and intensity would be able to tell the player what type of scan just hit faster than they could read a message about it.  Talk about immersion!  There's the gentle sweep of a wide scan like a handshake between players saying, "Hello to anyone out there, I am in your local space."  There's the deep bass thud of a directional ore scan that will lead to community discussion about checking LoS before performing repeat scans.  Then we have the trill of the hunter's ping that raises the hair on the back of your neck with the slightest increase in amplitude and the haunting feeling that something hungry is watching you.

Having a belt being partially in the safe zone but majoritarily on the pvp zone would make lots of players "dip their toes" into the pvp aspect of the game and I'm sure it would also promote more encounters too (that is, at least if they could find each other in the belt), but I'm sure would add lots of fun to it! It's a very nice risk-reward balance.
 
 
Yeah my big concern is that when new players realize how the whole asteroid mechanic works, specially the fact they are only refreshed on a single day of week, we'll see the game have quite low activity during week days but a rush of players on weekends, potentially leading to lag, since they all are going to the same places. Sure, if someone wants to spend every day of their weeks mining they would be able too...
 
I'm not sure if NQ still checks their forums for suggestions (unless when tagged) but I really hope they take a second look at a few core mechanics before release. I really enjoy DU and would be quite a shame if players get turned away from it because a few mechanics aren't polished.

no.
We isolated every single one of the possible positions. -127 through +127.  The "Big Wedge" was null voxel reactors from the "center" of the voxel to 0.5. then the extrusion of each of those got you out to the 1.5
 
The vertex tool makes it **so** much easier. I'm glad we have it now.
 

I have no problem with the risk aspect of asteroids. I go in fully expecting that there may be a person there already or that I may be interrupted after a few minutes of mining.
 
All that said, the system as it works now doesn't make sense, and that is like a splinter in my brain. What is in game reason that people with this magic DSAT know when an asteroid has been found? Are the DSAT and the asteroid sharing some psychic link? It makes little sense.
 
There are so many things lately with this slapped together feeling and no explanation for why it works this way. If we had deep space radar that could detect activity in the region of asteroids, then create a mechanic for that. At least this sort of mechanic could feed into other new features.
 
An alternative would be some sort of hacking feature that would allow players to hack into a DSAT network to locate where a DSAT is actively scanning.
 
These sorts of things would create additional conflict, make some actual sense, and require a more active role to be played by the hunter. There is way too much passive gameplay now as it is.

Honestly, I didn't really like the honeycomb changes, it took quite a bit of realism out of the building aspect, and I really liked the realism aspect of this game. I understand things need balancing and well, even though some things like the max speed cap and floor aren't very realistic, I understand they are balance etc, now HC mass should not me messed with. If you guys want to balance it, why not do it by only changing resistances and HP? We don't need any more dumbed-down systems on his game.
 
 
I have to agree with @Deathknight here, I'm honestly tired of those "discussion" threads where you ask us about feedback but it goes nowhere, feels like we're just here talking with the walls or a door. I understand you all want to be more "open" and in-touch with the community, but if you're not going to do anything with feedback just don't ask for it, it's gonna save everyone's time.

The EULA is pretty clear regarding what you get when you enter the beta. You got to play a beta version of a game for two years. The privilege was yours. All of the people receiving a pioneer pack spent money on the game at some point. You played for free. 
 
If all free beta accounts were given this reward, you would be back here complaining that alpha backers that received beta keys were getting multiple rewards, one for their main account and more for their alts playing on beta keys. That would be the conclusion if we followed down this path of backwards logic and the end result would make zero sense at all. to either NQ or the testers.

Hey Noveans!
You are an amazing community. I would like to thank each and everyone of you for helping make this launch announcement such a major success! Internally, we had some goals for our wishlist on Steam, which we thought would be enough to help us get visibility on the store when the game launches (that's how Steam rolls...). We are just so happy to report that we are about to reach that goal IN JUST THREE DAYS!!!! This is incredibly promising for the launch of Dual Universe and we know we couldn't have done it without you, our awesome community of dedicated and passionate players.
It’s time to double our Stream Wishlist goal! Let's make DU the surprise hit that we all know it can be. Please continue to spread the word about the wishlist to show our love and passion for this game. Together, we can DU it!
 
Again, thank you SO MUCH from all of us here at Novaquark.

The fact DU makes it so easy for anyone to track someone else is why so many don't go out and risk out in PVP zone. NQ doesn't seem to understand that, they keep trying to make encounters an easy thing to see if players get involved in PVP without realizing this will only end up with the PVP space being a place exclusive to PVP players, with nobody else wanting to get into there with risk of being camped/scanned/whatever.
 
I'm not even bothered if some PVP org decides to claim one asteroid as theirs or camp it waiting for players to come there and gank them, that should be valid gameplay, same as if someone wants to patrol the areas around asteroids or hunt down someone carrying good cargo, but like everything else PVP and piracy should need active work from players and not only consist of someone looking at the DSAT middle column and saying "ok boys, let's go to this asteroid because someone just landed there". Why should I, as a miner, be forced to spend 40 minutes slow boating to some asteroid plus a extra minutes trying to pin-point its location and even more extracting its contents, which takes some time for T3+, while on the other side some random kid can just automatically know I set foot there and come directly at me to take my stuff, without barely any work on his part other than camping the DSAT screen?
 
DU needs more PVP interactions? Definitely. But pushing players into it hoping they will start participating more will just end up with the opposite effect.

The fact DU makes it so easy for anyone to track someone else is why so many don't go out and risk out in PVP zone. NQ doesn't seem to understand that, they keep trying to make encounters an easy thing to see if players get involved in PVP without realizing this will only end up with the PVP space being a place exclusive to PVP players, with nobody else wanting to get into there with risk of being camped/scanned/whatever.
 
I'm not even bothered if some PVP org decides to claim one asteroid as theirs or camp it waiting for players to come there and gank them, that should be valid gameplay, same as if someone wants to patrol the areas around asteroids or hunt down someone carrying good cargo, but like everything else PVP and piracy should need active work from players and not only consist of someone looking at the DSAT middle column and saying "ok boys, let's go to this asteroid because someone just landed there". Why should I, as a miner, be forced to spend 40 minutes slow boating to some asteroid plus a extra minutes trying to pin-point its location and even more extracting its contents, which takes some time for T3+, while on the other side some random kid can just automatically know I set foot there and come directly at me to take my stuff, without barely any work on his part other than camping the DSAT screen?
 
DU needs more PVP interactions? Definitely. But pushing players into it hoping they will start participating more will just end up with the opposite effect.

The fact DU makes it so easy for anyone to track someone else is why so many don't go out and risk out in PVP zone. NQ doesn't seem to understand that, they keep trying to make encounters an easy thing to see if players get involved in PVP without realizing this will only end up with the PVP space being a place exclusive to PVP players, with nobody else wanting to get into there with risk of being camped/scanned/whatever.
 
I'm not even bothered if some PVP org decides to claim one asteroid as theirs or camp it waiting for players to come there and gank them, that should be valid gameplay, same as if someone wants to patrol the areas around asteroids or hunt down someone carrying good cargo, but like everything else PVP and piracy should need active work from players and not only consist of someone looking at the DSAT middle column and saying "ok boys, let's go to this asteroid because someone just landed there". Why should I, as a miner, be forced to spend 40 minutes slow boating to some asteroid plus a extra minutes trying to pin-point its location and even more extracting its contents, which takes some time for T3+, while on the other side some random kid can just automatically know I set foot there and come directly at me to take my stuff, without barely any work on his part other than camping the DSAT screen?
 
DU needs more PVP interactions? Definitely. But pushing players into it hoping they will start participating more will just end up with the opposite effect.

I am also very disappointed that this has gone through without explanation. I feel ignored. Why ask for feedback if you aren't going to address or utilize it. We deserve an explanation on why aluminum and carbon's weight was not swapped. Why do we no longer have a metal to build with as a primary build material?  At least answer your feedback. Silence and no changes is not an answer. You left us on Read. Ghosted.

I understand that realism isn't really a priority here, balance is.
 
That is ok.
 
But the mass change such that we no longer have any metallic honeycombs to work with purely for aesthetics without making our ships heavy as sin... I don't understand.
 
As DJ Slicer said, at least give us aluminium, an already popular honeycomb for non-pvp use, back down to the ~25 territory. Or better yet, give us a metallic honeycomb in the decorative category, with extremely low weight, but no PvP viability.
 
It's a pretty hefty hit to our ability to make fancy looking space ships, that look like space ships, and can still fly well.
 
Unless you really want all of our ships built entirely out of wood, marble, and concrete?
 
Don't get me wrong, I love that we have the *option* to use some of those fancier honeycombs purely for aesthetics now... But... Space ships should mostly be metal =D

EvE and Star Citizen have ALL their asteroids in a pvp zone. DU needs to be the same.  Otherwise they will never compete with those games in terms of population.  NQ can't grow their game with a terrible population. 
 
Also those games don't broadcast where someone is. That's the dumbest f*cking thing I've seen. It actually does the opposite to promote pvp. SC and EvE whether you are the hunter or miner, you have to actually go out and look/explore.  It's more balanced. The miner should expect to survive 95% of its pvp mining ops. This in turn adds way more people to do it, enough so the pvper still occasionally finds someone and emergent gameplay happens.  

I’m in support of this. I do not like how asteroids are auto broadcasted let people scan for them and discover them on their own. Having asteroids only spawn on weekends is a bad game design they need to be random to give every player equal opportunity in the game. Would also like to see smaller dsat for better ship designs.