Zeddrick

*facepalm*
There are 'game mechancis' that you need to consider:
#1 If you want high value minerals in pvp space, you don't stay for an hour unless you're heavily armed!
#2 Maybe see if there is some sort of frequency for asteroids mining in save space...
#3 Be already in place relatively close by when that happens, in a fast ship...
#4 Quickly get the higher value ore, take the time with T1 ore in save space...
#5 There's a LOT of T1 ore in save space asteroids, if you mine that, sell it, you can buy higher Tech ore from the market...
 
Stop expecting NQ to make a game just for you, they are making a game that (they think) appeals to different kinds of people. Learn how the mechanics work, and play with those!
 
I'm not into pvp myself, but the potential that it is there is what attracted me to DU (and EVE). During beta I spend a LOT of time between planets in pvp space and getting that working correctly is it's own challenge to figure out and I like that puzzle.

See I knew there was a reason I was using Reddit more instead of this forum.  This forum has no way to deal with obvious and useless troll comments like this one!  Give us a downvote button please NQ!

There's endless possibilities, just pick something and do it 😑 
Personally I want more purpose in building, build for shelter and protection from different hazards on different planets and in space: heat, cold, radiation, micro meteors, creatures...
Make antennas actually do something, like allow ships and even statics to message other constructs within radar range.
Everything's decorative with no purpose other than industry and storage and transport. (besides pvp which I can't speak on much)

See I knew there was a reason I was using Reddit more instead of this forum.  This forum has no way to deal with obvious and useless troll comments like this one!  Give us a downvote button please NQ!

That worked, thanks.  The ship hung up on it.

That worked, thanks.  The ship hung up on it.

Lol.  Game will launch when they've finished adding all the new bugs ...

You can actually use this to your advantage if you understand how it works.  So long as you log out with an active job you can have jobs queued against a linked container which doesn't yet have all the materials for the jobs.  When you log back in it will try to catch up the queue and this will work so long as the requisite materials are there when you log back in. 
 
So you can bank some manufacturing on an alt and then go gather what you need.  When you have enough raw material you log the alt back in and insta-build.
 

You can actually use this to your advantage if you understand how it works.  So long as you log out with an active job you can have jobs queued against a linked container which doesn't yet have all the materials for the jobs.  When you log back in it will try to catch up the queue and this will work so long as the requisite materials are there when you log back in. 
 
So you can bank some manufacturing on an alt and then go gather what you need.  When you have enough raw material you log the alt back in and insta-build.
 

You can actually use this to your advantage if you understand how it works.  So long as you log out with an active job you can have jobs queued against a linked container which doesn't yet have all the materials for the jobs.  When you log back in it will try to catch up the queue and this will work so long as the requisite materials are there when you log back in. 
 
So you can bank some manufacturing on an alt and then go gather what you need.  When you have enough raw material you log the alt back in and insta-build.
 

better idea to reduce price and sell skins instead

I have 200L, which was a decent amount at the time.  I spent time working on the search but was never one of the core members and thought it was a fair share at the time (there was never very much of it and most was never given out).
 
I was pleased when they announced the reward and really annoyed when they set the bar too high (100L would have been better, or have 2 tiers if they want like with the backer ones).  I let off a lot of steam and am over it now ...

The average eve player isn't going to want to play DU any time soon of ever for a number of reasons including the culture of the comunity.  What DU needs to do is stop chasing away the people who *do* want to play by trying to get them to play in a different way.  It really is that easy.
 
I'm in a discord where there are lots of people who used to play DU.  Most don't any more since 0.23.  Many of them were never interested in the quanta-market based game but wanted to mine/build everything themselves and the current changes don't really seem to have them excited.  They should have let people play the way they wanted to play and built features on top to make that easier.

During the PTS weekend I went into build mode on a starter outpost and got the element stacking error.  But only once though.  It is, indeed, very broken.
 
Even without the stackingnsystem it is irritating to click on blue elements and get errors, forcing builds to be trial and error.
 
You'd think, though, that if ever there was a good time to change the stacking rules for brakes it would be st the same time as a wipe so we don't have to fix a bunch of existing constructs we bought from ship sellers.

I don't really see the trial being useful because DU is a game where the players create the content for each other (and then, cleverly, have to pay to host it for one another).  Without that created content and the interaction with other players all you have is a fun  building game.
 
Since the trial is in another sandbox there will be no player created BPs or orgs, no racing/other player created games, no new player help and support, no DSAT to find asteroids, etc.  So essentially you can just surface gather and build things.  You won't be able to get a feel for what the game is really like.
 
But you will be able to tell how grindy it is and how little there is to do if you don't interact with other players.
 
I don't really care about kickstarter promises, etc but I do want something to do in the game.  And I am reminded that this is still produced by the company which s deleting all the existing content from the game after having lied to us for a long time about their intentions to do so.  And the same company which made (or just didn't make any) bad game-management decisions which led to the sandbox being so badly broken it needs to be reset at all.
 
The least they could have done is add some content to replace what was deleted.

Two reasons, people will quit the game and it will destroy the history which has built up over the last 2 years. 
 
I have a ship which once carried Thoramine, a ship which was first to find one of the event ships in the ship hunt, a ship I built in the first 2 weeks which I used to make by first billion quanta before 0.23 broke the market gameplay (and modded over time, learning to make it better as I did so), a massive ship with 60 EXL containers I stole during the first set of requisitons and various other things I'm attached to.  None of it is going to give me any particular level of advantage, but it's all history which I like.  I certainly won't be rebuilding any of it after a wipe - most of it doesn't even fly any more  because of the broken stacked element thing.
 
So for me a wipe is just getting rid of all the things which happened over the last 2 years of playing.  I'm not particularly interested in starting from scratch, particularly since the gameplay loops are less interesting now, the game lacks that feeling of discovery a second time around and the feeling of bootstrapping is, IMO, broken since planet mining was taken out.
 
 

You can buy game time codes from Markee Dragon now which will be valid after the release.  For example you can buy a year of game time and apply it to your account now.  If the sub pricing and model were changing then I imagine they wouldn't allow that.

The average eve player isn't going to want to play DU any time soon of ever for a number of reasons including the culture of the comunity.  What DU needs to do is stop chasing away the people who *do* want to play by trying to get them to play in a different way.  It really is that easy.
 
I'm in a discord where there are lots of people who used to play DU.  Most don't any more since 0.23.  Many of them were never interested in the quanta-market based game but wanted to mine/build everything themselves and the current changes don't really seem to have them excited.  They should have let people play the way they wanted to play and built features on top to make that easier.

The average eve player isn't going to want to play DU any time soon of ever for a number of reasons including the culture of the comunity.  What DU needs to do is stop chasing away the people who *do* want to play by trying to get them to play in a different way.  It really is that easy.
 
I'm in a discord where there are lots of people who used to play DU.  Most don't any more since 0.23.  Many of them were never interested in the quanta-market based game but wanted to mine/build everything themselves and the current changes don't really seem to have them excited.  They should have let people play the way they wanted to play and built features on top to make that easier.

So far my patience has been rewarded by everything I ever did in the persistent world getting deleted.  And it does not appear that NQ have learned from past mistakes.  I think they will just mess it up again and end up with another broken sandbox.
 
I think I might have run out of patience now.

So far my patience has been rewarded by everything I ever did in the persistent world getting deleted.  And it does not appear that NQ have learned from past mistakes.  I think they will just mess it up again and end up with another broken sandbox.
 
I think I might have run out of patience now.

So far my patience has been rewarded by everything I ever did in the persistent world getting deleted.  And it does not appear that NQ have learned from past mistakes.  I think they will just mess it up again and end up with another broken sandbox.
 
I think I might have run out of patience now.

It's a copy of some of the things Eve does without fully understanding why eve works.  It reminds me of the people who tried to fly by strapping feathery bird wings onto their arms and jumping off stuff.
 
I think they're scared of people playing the game without really being interested in quanta (presumably because they want to sell quanta in the form of DAC?).  So this new way has quanta baked into the creation of every single item, making it the most important ingredient for everything.
 
There are some nice properties though.  The items which had expensive schematics now have much cheaper copies.  Look at warp beacons for example.  Also the production capability of a character has a limit and it is easy to sell that limit.  Also the need to spend quanta making everything might discourage people from over producing if they happen to have too much ore.
 
 

I fixed that for you ...

I fixed that for you ...