Walter

if they are willing to do a hideously boring thing 20 times, they are welcome to it... I have more money than I can reasonably spend anyway and earned it all on one account by making ships and things.. (though I have 4 other accounts that just log in to apply their handling skills to industry/ships).

If they have 20 accounts, it means they bought 4 Alpha or Beta accounts to get the 5 extra beta access keys. That's at least $240 they paid towards funding a game that is likely to go titsup at any moment.
 
moreover, they have to log into each of those accounts at least twice to do the missions... that's anywhere up to 3 minutes per account to log out and back in... twice...
lets call it 3 minutes per relog... 40 times... that's 120 minutes of sheer boredom plus travel time.  If they are willing to "play" that way then they will be the type of people that will tend to get rich anyway...

The Metaverse is not a virtual space. Digital content experiences like Second Life are often seen as “proto-Metaverses” because they (A) lack game-like goals or skill systems; (B) are virtual hangouts that persist; (C) offer nearly synchronous content updates; and (D) have real humans represented by digital avatars. However, these are not sufficient attributes for the Metaverse.
 
The Metaverse, will...
 
Be persistent – which is to say, it never “resets” or “pauses” or “ends”, it just continues indefinitely Be synchronous and live – even though pre-scheduled and self-contained events will happen, just as they do in “real life”, the Metaverse will be a living experience that exists consistently for everyone and in real time
Have no real cap to concurrent participations with an individual sense of “presence” – everyone can be a part of the Metaverse and participate in a specific event/place/activity together, at the same time and with individual agency
Be a fully functioning economy – individuals and businesses will be able to create, own, invest, sell, and be rewarded for an incredibly wide range of “work” that produces “value” that is recognized by others
Be an experience that spans both the digital and physical worlds, private and public networks/experiences, and open and closed platforms
Offer unprecedented interoperability of data, digital items/assets, content, and so on across each of these experiences – your “Counter-Strike” gun skin, for example, could also be used to decorate a gun in Fortnite, or be gifted to a friend on/through Facebook. Similarly, a car designed for Rocket League (or even for Porsche’s website) could be brought over to work in Roblox. Today, the digital world basically acts as though it were a mall where every store used its own currency, required proprietary ID cards, had proprietary units of measurement for things like shoes or calories, and different dress codes, etc.
Be populated by “content” and “experiences” created and operated by an incredibly wide range of contributors, some of whom are independent individuals, while others might be informally organized groups or commercially-focused enterprises
Even if the Metaverse falls short of the fantastical visions captured by science fiction authors, it is likely to produce trillions in value as a new computing platform or content medium. But in its full vision, the Metaverse becomes the gateway to most digital experiences, a key component of all physical ones, and the next great labor platform.
 
The value of being a key participant, if not a driver, of such a system is self-evident – there is no “owner” of the Internet today, but nearly all of the leading Internet companies rank among the 10 most valuable public companies on earth. And if the Metaverse does indeed serve as a functional “successor” to the web — only this time with even greater reach, time spent, and more commercial activity — there’s likely to be even more economic upside. Regardless, the Metaverse should produce the same diversity of opportunity as we saw with the web – new companies, products and services will emerge to manage everything from payment processing to identity verification, hiring, ad delivery, content creation, security, and so forth. This, in turn, will mean many present-day incumbents are likely to fall (See? Dual Universe is indeed a true metaverse. Paid-troll attacks on DU hired by big video game/MMO publishers or present-day incumbents wouldn't be a big surprise and that's exactly what we've seen in recent months if not years).

Hey everyone,
so the event was a few weeks ago but no one talks about what happend their.
At the moment when at every PVP Battle something wierd happens and an Member from Hyperion taken part of it, everyone says that Hyperion is using Cheats or Glitches.
Yes the two ships which takes part of this Battle uses Stacked Elements and Burried Elements, but both is allowed from NQ at the moment and thats really not the Problem.
 
After this Battle we dont know what happens, so we decided to do some research. We figured out one really big Problems that game has at the moment.
We have this Information a really long time but i dont know why my Leadership or NQ didnt put an offical Statement on the Forum or so.
 
So what we figured out:
If your ship gets enough DMG from PVP fights your PC uses much ressources.
In this Fight the most AC members shoot with Railgun which makes good Damage but the Damage per Seconds are low. Both Hyperion ships shot with laser which has after Cannons the highest DPS.
Both Ships got 4 Seats of Laser which means per Ship 24 Lasers. At the moment Hyperion engaged the Boo Ships their getting so much damage in an shot time that their PCs are "Burning".
The pc off the Pilot is the "bottleneck" in this Part, on his PC the Ship gets calculated. But the biggest Issue in PVP fights at the moment where the Damage at the Voxels, at every shot your PC Downloads the "new Voxels" of your ship. The Boo Ship got a really big Part of Gold Voxel which creates microvoxels with every shot/damage so your PC Downloads really much Voxel changes.

We tested it and the Download is the biggest Problem in the actual PVP.
My PC in the Video got:
i7-8700k(overclocked to 5.0Ghz), 32GB Ram, Readon RX 6800XT, Samsung 970Evo M2 and and 1Gbit Internet Connection.

First test
11 Gunner, 50 Missiles, 4 Railguns to a Plate of Gold Voxels
Most shots missed, network spike 40Mbit/s, lowest FPS around 20
 
Second Test:
8 Gunner, 48 Lasers to a Plate of Gold Voxels
Min of FPS: 2, Network spike to 254Mbit/s

Third Test:
8 Gunner, 48 Lasers to a Plate of Iron Voxels
Min of FPS: 5, Network spike to 159Mbit/s

Fourth Test:
Ethernet Limited to 16MBit/s 
8 Gunner, 48 Lasers to a Plate of Iron Voxels
Min of FPS: 5, it takes around 2 Minutes to load every Voxel Change.

You can watch these Results in the Video:

Dear Noveans, 
 
We’d like to take a moment to talk about the communication on the forums and in Discord. We appreciate the passion each of you bring to our community and don’t want to diminish it; however, we’ve seen an increase in negativity, specifically attacks, unconstructive complaints, and disrespect to fellow players and our team. This is not okay. 
 
We’ve always invited community members to speak their minds. We’d like to remind everyone that we require a certain level of decorum and respect. Participants in our community areas (forums, Discord, and our social media accounts) are expected to voice criticism and concern constructively and communicate with courtesy and respect.
 
This is a warning that we won’t tolerate attacks on staff, volunteers, or members of this community. If you can’t play nice, and with respect, then this isn’t the community for you. 
 
With love,
SpaceMom
 

Please allow fetch for org ships with the Legate using the fetch 

Please allow fetch for org ships with the Legate using the fetch 

Please allow fetch for org ships with the Legate using the fetch 

Give XS and S core a unique torpedo platform that can do heavy dmg with a long reload time. These ships could still be shot down by an L core but having them in a Fleet will be a huge plus.

I intend to play until Arthritis gets me so here comes the obligatory: Can I have your stuff?

You failed to provide information why a wipe is needed . Also the Developer said there wont be wipes. That is what lured people in the game. Thats why subs are running.  There is nothing wrong with the game atm and atmo pvp is few months away. Lots of ppl will leave if they wipe the server because if you are a big org and you lose the progress for no reason, you wont have a reason to play.

Take a break, take few steps back and enjoy Christmas if u r bored.

You are in a middle of a wipe atm, soft wipe but its still a wipe.

Hmm. I believe in the interview that JC said the core size limitations for weapons were temporary until the further mechanics can be developed. 
 
I'm far more concerned about core units not being fixable with scrap. That means you can't claim a ship unless you have a replacement core unit. Those L cores are gonna get expensive to repair/claim. 

I'd make this sound as diplomatic as I can, but I do apologise if it sounds like I'm raging or venting - because I sort of am. This mechanic is the absolutely the worst idea imaginable not only for the current state, but also the overall atmosphere of the game. For the love of everything holy, if anyone at NQ stumbles over this, I urge you to reconsider - at the very least based on the sheer volume of feedback you have gotten over the past 5 years of development where people explicitly stated they don't want this to become a survival type of a game. I'll use bullet points from this point onwards as I cannot articulate my arguments without the sheer volume of disappointment otherwise:

- Replacing destroyed elements on ship builds would become impractical and impossible due to how clipping of elements currently works. You will need to strip off half the ship to place an element in it's original position, because the original position is 'too close' to another element - so you'd need to replace everything in order. This will only further encourage box ships taking away from immersion and spirit of the game. 
- Arbitrary system of "this element got destroyed X times = perma death" would make ships with a couple of elements that were already damaged before obsolete, as players would try to replace those at first opportunity. If anything, this just seems like a fundamentally the worst possible and the least practical way of implimenting the mechanic.
- This is further expanding on the first point - but mechanics like this work in games like Eve because you have a pre-existing number of hard points to which you slot in desired modules. It takes a matter of minutes if you have the modules in your inventory. It would NOT work in a game where you would need to spend hours replacing one element due to placement priority on a ship. It would NOT work when some elements can break and other elements can break at another time. Other building games that started off with this, had to implement game mechanics to fix the issue - Empyrion with repair projectors that automatically fix up your ship, space engineers with nanite bots etc. And those games have a "clip to box" build system, not a free standing one like DU. DU is going BACKWARDS by implimenting this.
- The whole "but muh economy needs money sinks!" argument - to date - has been a myth. Markets haven't crashed. Prices haven't plummeted. There will always be people leaving the game. There will always be people abandoning constructs. There will always be new people joining the game needing stuff. There will always be existing people building more and bigger stuff. If money sinking becomes a requirement, add element disassembler that strips an element to it's base component (at reduced efficiency if you want), add a mechanic where you can only repair using scrap to 50% of element's hp and efficiency while simultaneously adding a repair module that repairs using crafting components. Make the mechanic fun and challenging. The current proposal is literally the worst way you could impliment it.
- If you want harder penalties for crashing your ships - which I fully 100% support, claiming destroyed cores needs to return for a start, or/and increase the cost of scrap, or give people options to use components INSTEAD of scrap to instantly repair an element. Again, make the game more interactive, fun and challenging. Not less.
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To start id like to say i doubt that NQ is going to listen but the problems that will arise with planned updates can be completely avoided and I also apologize if i show some people think they didn't know.
1. Durability will kill PvP.
The point of PvP right now is to kill the other guy and take his ship. the battles my not always end in a win or loss but when somebody loses, the elements you recover are enough to cover fuel and ammo and maybe the voxel damage that happens to your ship. with elements being completely destroyed after a fight what do I get for killing my opponents ship? i'll tell you what you get, parts that can never be used again! for those who have ever fought in real PvP you know that parts a destroyed way more than 10-20 times.The already low reward of PvP will be reduced down to nothing.
 
2. The "rebalancing" of PvP can be easily bypassed with little to no effort due to the docking mechanic.
(This one is multi faceted so please read the whole thing before you rage reply, also if you haven't done any PvP this won't make sense to you but if you know you know) 
 
Currently the list of PvP rebalancing  actions will be.
Bound weapon sizes to core sizes
energy consumption
radar lock ranges unified
Hit-Miss formula changed to account for cross section instead of core size. 
 
To bypass all of these all i would need to do is follow these steps.
1. Use a L core to build a ship with the same cross section of  a Small core and use all of my energy allotment for engines only
2. Build M cores that are only Large weapons and dock them to the L core.
3. Go shoot anything that moves because i have more guns.
 
Ways to fix these problems.
Stop docked ships from firing weapons
Have better rewards for Killing enemy ships combat (quanta or skill points)
 
constructive criticism is welcomed but disrespect will be ignored.

Yet, big orgs (who indeed bounce back) not only meaningful entities in game. And not only voices against.
 
Actualy, its reasonable to say, "middle class" people (ironicly as in typical IRL problems) will suffer worst -- all active solo/small group players, both old and new, who tried to relativly keep up with big guys by hard work and preparing some reserves for future. They will be completly gutted, but they obviously have much less "staying power" and "raw muscle" then big orgs to go back in action and many will be feeling extreamly exausted and even cheated of their hard earned assets.
 
Per example, by local millions and kilotons of ore standards I relativly "poor" and usualy deeply frown upon hysterical "i will quit" things as argument... But to be super honest, if they wipe like before "release", deleting all ore I mined (and other work done), I will very seriously consider if I want to play DU again and re-invest all this time. Just no more stamina. On personal level.
 
NQ obviously made chain of insanly bad and unresponsable choices (with JC sometimes barely understanding how his game really played, living in world of fantasies in a way), that poisoned game and now we all paying price (generaly in both cases of non wipe scenario and wipe scenario). Its just difference between slow "necrosis" damage and shock bloody fountains damage.
 
I really don't know how they can repair it. All options are just tormenting lesser evil things (that a quite not lesser).
 
 

NQ, really, please!
The market UI is ugly.
- 6 rows and too much free space on screen - it's terrible.
- Add price/market/etc filters for a sell and buy screens (independents)
- Remove the default 0.01 price in a sell order - you force 99% of traders press to delete every time
- Add default 1 quantity for a buy order - we newer buy 0
- Give us the opportunity to fully use the market warehouse - this saves us from hundreds of containers installed around the markets.

?

Been thinking about posting this for a while but thought NQ would have done something already.
 
Going to post this as politely as I can but the support giveaways are a COMPLETE JOKE.  50% of people are lying, this is obvious because they say things like:

"I crashed when coming into atmosphere, logged back in and my ship was destroyed" - bullshit, you crash your ships stops what they actually means is "I have a really heavy ship, I crashed the game coming into atmosphere because i couldnt slow down, logged back in with zero momentum and my massively overweight ship fell like a rock"

"I just died on XXXXX insert planet and have magically teleported to Ailoth, can you port me back" = I was mining and tried to use the force respawn to cheese back to my ship, but didnt check my node before I used this soft exploit
 
This is causing a LOAD of problems, firstly you are completely shielding these new players from any survival elements of the game, experienced players know to fly with good scrap and extra fuel.  New players arent learning these lessons because when they make mistakes (and most ARE player mistakes) they get freebies.

The worst part about all this is that they are making a huge section of gameplay / career paths completely redundant.  In alpha there were loads of players planning to set up as repair / refuel crew or taxi services, I have reached out to several of these to see how business is and there ISNT ANY.  The game has limited career paths as it is (without really knowing the game) these are some of the more obvious ones and you are making them irrelevant.  The longer this goes on the worse it will get.

My solution - send out an email saying that the daily quanta is being continued but it is being called BETA SUPPORT INCOME, it is paid to ensure players have funds in case of emergency.  You then reach out to verified support services orgs and bring them into support via some additional channel, where you can send people who need there services.
 
This needs to be done soon, as you are making a massive rod for your own back by giving this crutch to new players (although seen several vets abusing it too).

The OP thinks to build an XS Death Cube is very easy but it's not. true from the outside, it might look primitive but the trick is in the right placement of the elements to cramp all these large stuff inside that relative small building area to be effective. There will always be a Meta and you as a designer will always have to make compromises that the craft does what it is supposed to do and was it was intended with it. Right now PvP builders build to be effective in this way but later on shield bubbles might be added for lets say break a bit current Meta. NQ could also restrict weapons to core size in xs core only go xs weapon and so on. The investment a player or a group does on a big ship should have benefits not like is now just a bad thing to fly large. For now PvP is avoidable and if you want to show of a build that is for expo then why fly it to the pvp zone where the only guys going to see it are they sitting on a gunner seat aiming at you?

Then this game isnt for you. Same people cry over and over about being ganked in eve. I dont give a fucking shit what their reasons are, because they are wrong. Point blank. Because the DEVELOPERS of eve said high sec isnt safe. The DEVELOPERS of NQ said the majority of the universe will be open pvp. I don't go to carebear games and whine and complain why I can gank someone, instead I just go to a game that let's me (eve).  People will argue about money, saying a developer should do whatever brings in the most money but that is just absurd. They are trying to make a game, their game, and a somewhat unique one. 
 
Here is another thing, I'm more valued customer than the solo carebear. There is no denying it. A lot of my pvper friends in eve sub lots of alts with our credit cards, and purchase lots of Plex. Same will happen in DU. Some months me and a buddy would spend over 1k a month on eve. He subs 12 accounts with his CC, I do 6. And we buy plex packs. NQ already knows they if they go back on their promise of freedom and open world and player driven they will lose massive money, because at that point they are backing off on the original vision they sold us on, the reason we even backed the game.

Es ist wahr das es zu früh für einen öffentlich Start des Spiels, vor allem in Verbindung mit monatlichen Beiträgen, gewesen ist.
Man muss aber auch noch dazu sagen das zum Wohle der Kundenfreundlichkeit eine Zwichenlösung getroffen wurde: Ein freier Monat Spielzeit
 
Novaquark hat sich an etwas herangewagt zu verwirklichen, was sich viel größere Softwarefirmen erst gar nicht trauen und das
1. in einem Bruchteil der Zeit, und 2. mit einem Bruchteil der Kosten.
 
Ich werde hier, weiterführend, das Extrembeispiel StarCitizen benutzen das ja, voraussichtlich,
noch nicht einmal in 5-10 Jahen fertig sein wird...  (von der  Kundenfreundlichkeit ganz zu schweigen...)
 
Warum wird nicht über eine Sache gesprochen die wirklich gut bei Dual Universe ist?
 
Wie:
>> Zum Beispiel der Support, den ich persönlich wirklich Klasse finde.
>> Ein weitestgehend freies Spieluniversum indem man sich fast alles selber zusamenbauen kann.
>> Die "Möglichkeit" (auch wenns Sauschwer zu erlernen ist xD) praktisch alle Spielgegenstände zu Programmieren.
 
Ich könnte diese Liste noch verlängern aber jeder sollte jetzt schon wissen worauf ich hinaus will.
 
Nun zum Extrembeispiel:
StarCitzen ... dort bekommt man fertige Schiffe für viel Geld vorgesetzt (Hier Kunde ! Fress ! Das Schiff ist Cool !)
die einem das Spielen unglaublich vereinfachen "können" nach dem Motto: PayToWin.
Und Hammerhart was die Entwickler für eine Kohle scheffeln ist unglaublich...
 
SC gehört Boykotiert bis sie fast pleite gehen, wenn du mich fragst...
Aber das Gegenteil passiert... Und ...Scheinbar juckts kein Schwein...
 
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Star-Citizen-Spiel-3481/News/2020-finanziell-extrem-erfolgreich-hoehere-Einnahmen-1356238/
 
Für mich ist Grafik echt nicht alles. "Es darf auch mal ein bisschen weniger sein"
 
Da kann man sich doch eigentlich gar nicht über DU aufregen, oder?
Und Startprobleme gehören in diesem geschäft einfach dazu ?
 
Wenn mich jetzt meine Aussagen zum Weißen Ritter machen, finde ich das völlig in Ordnung.
 
Ich weise aber darauf hin das ich dir, Tulucan, nicht unbedingt "unrecht" gegeben habe, sondern einfach nur relativiere da ich glaube das man Novaquark
mehr als "nur ein paar Chancen" geben sollte sich auf dem RIESIGEN Markt der Onlinespiele zu etablieren und... Mal ehrlich...
Für "das" bisschen Geld was NQ zur Verfügung hat ist das Spiel doch echt gut, oder?
 
Aber! : Es braucht auf jeden Fall, in Zukunft, noch ein paar Zusatz-Server. Das ist wohl Wahr ?
Dennoch : Dafür brauchts Geld das es weiter gehen kann, "mit" neuen Servern ?
Ich habe jedenfalls, vom Start weg gleich 120€ ausgegeben (in der Alpha-Phase) und somit mit einem Schlag soviel
Geld ausgegeben wie in den letzten 5 Jahren (Kein Schertz! ich habe, mit DU, in 5 Jahren bloss ungefähr 250 - 300€ für Spiele ausgegeben! ?)
und ich habe es bisher nicht bereut.
 
Aber, Tulucan, bleib weiterhin Kritisch
Ohne Kritiker gibts keine Veränderungen

I am happy for Yamamushi and wish him a good time with NQ. When I was a newbie in DU he helped me a lot, will be always grateful to him for that.