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how will DU handle players like me who usually opt to have multiple subs?

will there be any advantage to doing this?

 

the 2 main games i play i have 4-6 subs, this gets me the ability to be more self reliant. i can always drop down to a single account for specific activities where that is more appropriate. i can have characters online at the same time with different focuses on what they are good at.

 

in one game i have characters more skilled at fighting, or healing or tanking ect.

in another game i have characters focused on "boosting" or mining, or combat support, or transport.

i like being able to mine on one screen and transport on another. ect.

 

one idea that has seemed interesting to me would be a scale able sub. say a basic sub can have 4 characters, but only one can be active at a time, for a few dollars more i can have another of those characters active, and perhaps more total characters (there would need to be a way to address when i drop back to basic sub for any reason which characters do i lose access to?) also would need to address if i am using more than one computer to play. my current set up has one sub on it's own pc. so how would i be able to log in to the same account on different pc's? and do do you prevent my buddy from using one of my characters while i am playing another, thus cheating you out of a sub?

 

my new set up (under construction) won't be like this. i will be able to do everything on a single pc.

 

will you provide any in-game tools for nerds like me?

 

i hope you will have ways of preventing automated play. though there are players like me out there who actually find the challenge of actually controlling several characters fun and challenging, it can be hard to separate us from other players who may or may not even be at their pc's while they are botting several accounts and gaining an unfair advantage over all the other players, myself included.

 

i hope i have not overlooked this subject being discussed elsewhere, if i have i would love to be pointed in the right direction.

 

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If a game requires you to have multiple accounts to be self sufficient in most tasks with the game, then the game itself has failed. 

 

This is something I have always hated about Eve. That said, the type of game that Eve is encourages having multiple accounts to do said tasks. It's just the nature of what it evolved in to (and many other games). 

 

I still do not agree with it, but it is what it is. NQ are taking several ideas from Eve Online with developing Dual Universe, so this account necessity may be a thing as well here, who knows. Will certainly need a response from Nyz to give us an answer.

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indeed.

in another game i play which is fantasy based, i have several accounts for doing group activities. i do this cause my play time can be restrictive, and waiting to fill a group to do an activity took too much of my time. by having my own "group" i got to spend my time figuring out to complete the activities by myself. they were not designed to be done the way i do them. this is way more fun than waiting my play time away.

 

and like i stated above, being able to accomplish more than one task at the same time can also be fun, and saves time. though in eve mining is boring and does not require lots of attention, it can be easy to run another account to haul stuff, or do some other activity which requires a bit more attention.

 

i haven't yet read what all the potential activities for DU will be and perhaps there won't be any that require less or more attention than others.

 

i have played and enjoyed a few games where it would just be a waste of my money to have more than one account.

i will keep reading and see what i can find, await further information.

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I'm with Ellegos on this.  Having alts that specialise in different things is one thing, but having them online at the same time, helping each other out defeats the purpose.  Basically, I'm strongly against multiboxing in all shapes and forms.  If a task can be done more efficiently with two or three toons than with one that should necessarily mean you need two or three players in order to gain that efficiency.  I'd love to see a response from Nyz on this topic.

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I agree with Klatu. I don't find it... ethical to multi-box. Alts are okay, I suppose if there are hard caps on skill levels and number of skills you can have.

Blah, more in my head.

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I think it'd be like having an alt for Minecraft. As far as I know, there won't be anything like a skill tree, only our own ken and skills.

 

i would not be so sure about that, they talked about different jobs like scientist, explorer etc. In my opinion that means either distinct skilltrees/skillsets for the characters or a general skillsystem in the "skill up as u use it" way, as the elderscrolls games.

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The Skill system won't block your character in one or two specialization. Basically, there will be nothing to prevent your character to be a "Jack of All Trades". Most skills will be easy to learn, but hard to master. It will all depend how much time you want to allocate to train in a specific skill. If you know the EvE Online skill system, then you should have a pretty good idea about what we are planning :)

 

 

From the multiplayer ship crew thread. Bear in mind that was almost a year ago, pretty early in development so who knows if it will change.

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The team hasn't made the final decision on this subject yet.

But I will bring this topic to the Devs' attention :)

 

Sidenote: if we succeed in avoiding to have activies usually boring and nearly automated in MMO (like mining, for example ;)) not boring in Dual Universe, this should naturally limit Multiboxing.

 

Best Regards,

Nyzaltar.

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The team hasn't made the final decision on this subject yet.

But I will bring this topic to the Devs' attention :)

 

Sidenote: if we succeed in avoiding to have activies usually boring and nearly automated in MMO (like mining, for example ;)) not boring in Dual Universe, this should naturally limit Multiboxing.

 

Best Regards,

Nyzaltar.

 

Well, I'm certainly happy to see we're on the same page in this regard! Keep us posted!

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I dont mind alts (as long as they are on the same account).  In games where you have a lot of character customization I love to have alts. I had done the multiple account thing before in other mmo's and for the same reasons to be self sufficient, but it never really paid off In the end and I end up with one account, which is fine with me. The one thing I do wish is the ability to see my alts all gathered as NPC's inside of 'player housing'. I am currnetly playing SWTOR and I love the stronghold idea, but I dislike that I can not see my alts positioned in the stronghold, brining it alive.

 

There was another voxel game I was playing that only allowed for 1 character on the account and I have multiple accounts for that game, which is kind of a fail imo. I use the other accounts as material holders and for places to build as there is a cap per account on how much you can make.

?I would like to see Dual give us the option of multiple characters on one account, but really we have to wait and see how the game plays out, because it feels like its the kind of game where there really is no need for 'alts' or other accounts. It just depends. If we can specialize but only in certain areas, then there will be a huge need for alts/multiple accounts etc.

 

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hi, most company dont want have alts,., like Entropia Universe they rule only one person per account usually per ip address. exception if u have boyfreieds/girlfriends/wife or husband want to play then u gotta ask support if r allow before sign up. this my suggestion if a bot should terminate shier account if get reported unusually pattern how avatar.

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I see no harm in having multiple accounts what so ever. It gives solo players the ability to do many task at once, and as in the case of pay to play gives the devs more money. Unless having multiple accounts would break or abuse a game mechanic then why care? Now certain macros with multi-boxing that's another story.

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Everyone hates on the multi boxing, but sometimes you just wanna do something that requires more than 1 person, and you dont feel like waiting 15-20 minutes to get a group organized. In any game without match making where you can just click and join a group and do a thing, you have to organize groups by organizing people. Its like hearding cats sometimes. 

 

So i support multiple subscriptions and i will have multiple subscriptions if i find i spend most of my time waiting for pee breaks, smoke breaks, dogs gotta go out, oh my cat knocked this over, what's my kid into.

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You can't multibox in this game that way. You can only script ships to be slaved by your ship and having OTHER scripts working as a remote control function, similar to the way EVE handled command bonuses, only WAY more organic. So, they take YOU out, bye bye, your drone fleet has no master to control it.

I believe this is why they made it first-person with a "target and lock-on system" similar to TERA for balance and fun on the receiving end, and 6DoF, so to negate multiboxing. The only way to work around this would be with bots and bots are fair game for banning, even your IP, as they are game-breaking.

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You can't multibox in this game that way. You can only script ships to be slaved by your ship and having OTHER scripts working as a remote control function, similar to the way EVE handled command bonuses, only WAY more organic. So, they take YOU out, bye bye, your drone fleet has no master to control it.

 

I believe this is why they made it first-person with a "target and lock-on system" similar to TERA for balance and fun on the receiving end, and 6DoF, so to negate multiboxing. The only way to work around this would be with bots and bots are fair game for banning, even your IP, as they are game-breaking.

 

You can multi-box any game. Now successfully playing both at the same time is an entirely different thing  :P. I plan on having multiple accounts (probably just 2, and depends on how training goes) just for the fact that  you can not train multiple characters on the same account at the same time.

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You can multi-box any game. Now successfully playing both at the same time is an entirely different thing  :P. I plan on having multiple accounts (probably just 2, and depends on how training goes) just for the fact that  you can not train multiple characters on the same account at the same time.

Fair game then, as long as you don't bot your accounts, you can be an octopus that multiboxes on its own 4 different accounts :P

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Fair game then, as long as you don't bot your accounts, you can be an octopus that multiboxes on its own 4 different accounts :P

 

 Now botting is the real issue we need to worry about.

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