Aaron Cain

did you already use talents to maximize your personal storage space?

There is no profit, there is only risk for either side. No reason to PvP for anyone as it is now. Too many safezones indeed and I am not one of the PvP side, Im one of the be whatever you want side. But to have civilizations, and wars between star nations there has to be PvP. Du was promoted to be like eve and minecraft and infinite, dreamers could build whatever they wanted. But thats not where we are now and that concept is ditched halfway alpha already and frankly what wories me most is not lack of pvp or lack of anything to do but grinds of mining is the infinate abundance of lag at the markets with the low numbers of players we have now. No way this will support a growth in the 10 folds or even doubling the nummers at peak times. As long as we cannot land at an overcrowded market and have No lag there is no point in releasing DU to the general public. Any groundwar will be fought with approximately 10 to 100 people max or there will be lag crashes. i have fought abyss battles in Aion with thousands and those there was not even a trace of lag. Before we argue amongst ourselves we best look at the elephant in the room, the server cannot handle the Beta people and that needs to be fixed first. Not cleaning up shit, making the shit not count in lag and having even more shit and still not having lag. I should be able to crash a size super stardestroyer right in your base and run out with few hundred people and there should be No lag what so ever.

almost ready for release of the game and the inflow of millions of players i would say, lagg would be less then

If all PVP organizations want PvP, why not just kill each other? traders and miners and industrialists will not go those routes, and since all gameplay and economy and industry is bjorged since 0.23 please do not expect anyone to accidentally end up in PvP space. In short, All the people who want PvP and call for it, start with yourself and go into PvP zone to fight with eachother and dont expect any gains from PvP coming year. Unless the whole economy, mining and industry is changed including the schematics and player driven markets, asteroid mining.

the wait is a feature and this is not a joke. The whole intend of DU is that it takes time to get progress. All new updates are there to make sure it takes even more time to progress. so your doing perfectly fine. Good job

BTW, if anyone wants to ditch their crappy voxels, I am in need of truck loads of them, the shittier the better.

Dhara, your telling exactly that what we are indeed all telling And facing. I cannot wonder to think maybe the whole thing was deliberate to kill off all veterans who invested so much time and cash into DU. What other reason would there be to do this and not even make an attempt to fix it. Doing Nothing showed enough reasons for any serious player why Not to invest Any time in DU, and they all left. Its clear to me that some players have more rights then others and its clear that the developers have no tools to clean up accidents or close exploids and actually ban players that broke the eula or tos

I get what you mean about discord, i dont even go there unless i need NQ help as that is the only way to get it within 2 months. But frustration runs big here, some people invested only 250 euros but there are those that sent over thousands with a promise to deliver a very specific kind of game with relative clear features in helicopter view. Now what happens if you invest literally hundreds of dolars/euros and the person who got it just ignores you completely although they promised you would be consulted and to be the most transparent game out there, to be a combo of Eve and minecraft, to be able to build on dyson sphere scales and much more. Yep, you get frustrated and even more if your first 20 times you ask for delivery on a promise is utterly ignored.

The playerbase was just brilliant. I lost my reasons to keep silent, so all consequenses of posting are accepted. pre-alpha and alpha was such a nice time to be here. Even the beta start was going nice, yeah there were alot of issues and alot of other stuff that frustrated people but the start was nice. Then people noticed the holes in PvP and that all the things we already told about in alpha were still not fixed and even ignored just to push new systems, but still people were coming into the game. Mining was still a grind but some people didnt mind too much, Pre 0.23 we had some issues with possible unfair gameplay that was ignored and that did not help, then we got 0.23........And on top of that we had the schematics Blunder that killed of last of the mohicans. loads of organizations now are burning piles of broken dreams, people at home burned out of DU, people got banned for asking the wrong questions, people doing wrong shit did not get banned, And it is a small world so we all know what happened behind the screens and who were the unlucky persons who wanted to help DU but got thrown out instead. So when you talk about fresh playerbase it feels abit like we are in "Attack on titan" New cannonfodder is needed to be ripped to peaces so the ignorant masses can keep on living in perfect bliss. Stuff needs to get fixed, my friends PC literally fried on DU, Database still has errors that make it possible to have the strangest unsolvable bugs ever, The unasked password reset made it impossible for alot of veterans to be able to play after it happened as the old email adresses were not reachable anymore and that made it impossible to change the passwords, i myself have lost 1 account too due to this. When a train goes to a station that it has to reach at 23:59 and it can barely make it with 5 minutes delay, and it already has broken wheel barrings and some roof tiles sticking out, the last card is barrely hanging on and the lights on half the train are broken, safety breaks are not installed and the doors tend to open every now or then. Technissions on the train have only a small timeframe to actually make it possible for the train and everyone in it to arrive safely at the station. So now they throw away half the seats to make sure people are sitting closer together, and since some people keep on reading they kill the internal lights, toilets are locked and a new floor is installed in the train. Now they try to paint the train from the outside so it looks nice for all the people Not in the train so they feel they also want to be in it. and passengers are told they may ask other passengers to do errants for them but only in that train and only picking stuff up in another wagon. Its 2357 and the station is insight when the man in the front steps on the break, 2 minutes later the train explodes, all passengers are dead and the still wet pain is all over the station. They forgot to install a nice feature on the train that would be expected in that sort of train, they forgot to install breaks.

If this works, please tell me I also have a wishlist that has to do with dynamic cores 2 km and a flying space city that could use some developers help

ROFL You Made my day, No You made my week. Nonono You even made my whole Year "Standing Ovation" (in the back ground i can hear the brilliance of the song "We will Rock You" )

Nice to read people thing veterans will come back. I am not so hopefull, all veterans i speak see DU as a passing station and are already gone far far away. Trust is gone and will never return and no rock or glam can bring that back.

yep market 3 is very empty now, our DUkea has the industry but there is no use starting it

No it will not, thats only propaganda. Fixing broken stuff and reinventing economy and industry will, else there is nothing to PVP over anyway.

Most builders left after 0.23. , another group left after schematics exploit rest will leave when containers are nerfed. Bring me back my miners and industry and i will build again, still got a city, a DUkea a warehouse and a huge complex to finish. ooh, and a space city

Ideal PvP update? Crash DU to the ground in the present form, redo alot of initial development, include a less server CPU depending core. Follow the early roadmap, add all the alpha and pre alpha promises, New concept of cores that give builders more flexibility and makes a limit on a core on total build volume. Introduce coreless building for infrastructure and give ship elements the need to actually connect all together. then reintroduce all PVP elements together, defence as offence and just throw in all versions including planetary war. bring back to only safezone, sanctuary and give warp a meaning, what means more starsystems. delete scematics, introduce research for the to be build components and make mining what it should be, Not the main feature. Bring down costs to actually build stuff and with that the risk of losing in PvP is acceptable and bring back the comunity page with posts so that we can all provoce each other so wars actually break out......and not this lets make an event else we have nothing to do.

In short, and I already knew this. Building a city under the current layout of DU is not possible, Both the rdms system as the clutter system where you cannot throw constructs of your land is not helping. Also by using only org cores its not possible as the rdms on the org cores is more often corrupt or not working then going perfect. In the end i was able to build a very small scale cityblock as example only to find that with 0.23 all my townspeople left. So now i have an empty city block with 2 huge buildings in close range, few shops and a market but all totally deserted.

since 0.23 i play solo, before 0.23 i played with about 30 people. They all left

whatever the reason is, it deserves a deskface.

anything not fixable is a "feature"

after the succes of 0.23 i dont think the community can take to many updates. And about getting people back, to late to little. Anything to get them back should have been right after the 0.23 patch and the peoples who left wont come back for visuals or vr or anything like that. In their eyes game was broken and ineffective since 0.23 and untill that is adressed they will be happy anywhere else.

nice to have them, sadly all my friends and business partners went on to a new game since 0.23. So there is no way i could even fill a single crate with meaningfull stuff.

Since exploiders are not banned even after putting stuff online for cash, see the schematics sceme, i would be very surpriced if nq acts on this. If they do it just shows there is indeed class justice, and some are more then others.

Get rid of schematics and fix all broken things first. Then deliver as promised and thus pvp as described in the original roasmap. That ahould fix most.

@Comrademoco you will be missed! District 3 salutes you!