Hazaatan

This stuff is why the game needs an “all but BP’s and skills” wipe on release. Reset the worlds and ore, etc..
 
I get it. I have stuff I do not want to lose too. But you can’t have stuff like this just go untreated in a PvP game with a player based economy. The consequences of these kind of massive economic errors only grow over time.
 
There’s a reason games wipe after Betas (and let’s be honest this is really an open alpha, not feature complete). There are going to be fuck ups, wildly bad balance passes, etc.. you can either micromanage their effects, ignore them and leave the game permanently damaged, or beta wipe. It seems like a pretty obvious decision from a balance/dev resource position.

A warp beacon costs 20-30M to make, it is sold for much more because it takes so long to make and because people want to make back the money they paid for the schematics. The same can be said for any t3+ item, the price is not dictated so much by the raw materials but the build time and schematic price. 

Now that plenty of people practically got the schematics for free, there is no way anybody who paid the normal price for it will ever make his money back. The issue may not hurt you, because you don’t do industry, but it does hurt a lot of other players.

You forget NQ's  mo.  They will just ban the players who bought schematics.

*Waits for the weeks of silence from NQ before they start hyping their next big patch while pretending this never happened*

I guess yesterday evening was the worse time possible to spend 50mil in legit schematics :v
 
This game never fails to amaze me.

After this mornings huge screwup and bot prices were reduced 100x, I've seen screenshots of 10s of billions in schematics, and have heard of people who bought items at the bugged prices and resold to players who made hundreds of millions in a few minutes. When is this getting rolled back?
 
At this point it is probably too late to just reverse the market transactions. People are trying to hide the money in ore or moving it around, so the only way to catch it all is to rollback. If you just remove the schematics and return the money, you screw over all the people who had their buy orders filled and the people who sold them bugged items get to keep all that money. The longer it takes to rollback, the more annoyed people will be, so probably best done sooner rather than later.
 
I won't speak for everyone, but if people are allowed to keep these items, or the money they got from selling them, then I'm personally moving on to different games. There is no reason to play if someone who logs in for 5 minutes at the right time makes more progress than others who have been playing for months.

If you dont see that orgs are breaking this game in every aspect of the game I dont know what to tell you. They need limits. Thats all there is to it in order to create any form of balance or its game over in like 5-10 months if things dont improve. Believe it or not idc.
 
Hey it used to be 15 friends at one point. Trying to build an org but people quit the game quite frequently. All im saying is my perspective. It doesnt matter if im 3 or 300 the scale and quotas of the machine scale to what you can produce. Its the only frame of refrence I have and judging by the demands im supposed to have a bare minimum of 10-25 people. We roll with the punches like everyone else. /shrug

Wth are those operations xD
+5% on 4000l is 5(4000/100)=200 so 4200l total.
 

So ... any news on this? I too cannot create BP of my ship (despite positive message), and have worked over a month on my ship ...

Unable to make a blueprint form my ship.  It says the blueprint was created but never shows up in inventory.  Anyone hear anything on this yet?

I share your view on this since the planets and moons are the real prizes and they arent set up to be sustainable since you might have T1-5 or like T1-T3-T5 mats on the same planet but no real means to sustain a long war. Once mega orgs take over the top planets and cut off top tier tech or graded items its pretty much game over until the 2nd most powerful org can no longer produce that tech and gets steamrolled and the top mega org just goose steps down the planetary line down the Tiers and controls everything with no equals. Its just the natural order of how that will go.
 
Since planets dont have everything they need on planet to be self sustainable to some degree as I think planets should have exclusive abundant resources but also that they should have some basic amount of everything with more random variety between moons or planets so that a war can actually be fairly waged and balanced so that 1 org cant reliably cut off whole tech trees and their grades.
 
Or that owning a planet is basically just becoming the government of that planet with a voting system of rulesets on that planet where the controlling mega org is bound by law to the citizens/residents of the planet if they are part of the org or not and more of a temporary land lord than a warlord. Where other systems of planetary governments also are part of a forum or solar system set of laws that each planet can come into conflict over if it deviates from the solar senate.
 
But that the ruling org of a planet can set zoning, taxes, put of a vote to declare war, evict people, or use their numbers as leverage in votes but still giving everyone that lives there a vote. Since the ruling org is a temporary landlord in the cosmic game of musical chairs it does not mean that citizens wont be targeted in cosmic wars it just means that all the ruling orgs territory and infrastructure needs to be destroyed to claim the planet. But I do feel as though there should be OTUs or organization territory units that claim a cluster of 7 tiles at once or larger zones, districts, regions that cost 10s to hundreds of millions to claim vast areas at once with wherever you drop it. If a tile in it is claimed then it should be at a loss or pick another random tile around it.
 
But with all things considered pvp is a trainwreck, it will continue to be a train wreck for a long time to come and kill off more players then incentivize them to fight rather than quit when they lose everything in a non stop mega zerg once the taining wheels come off.

Weight! Add structural integrity.  Nothing wrong with building up, would be awesome to see skyscrapers, but the skinny towers to hold platforms is really bad.

This game has all the variables to create an equation to have both PVE and PVP.  But the current equation is garbage.  So many things wrong that can be fixed if the big corporations weren't filled with griefers and cry-baby-baby-boss'.  The corporations are not interested in sustainability. All they care about is having an advantage over players and taking advantage of players.   
The game is in desperate need of a restart, but a restart to a new direction.  This PVP + Corporation + hate the solo/small group play is not sustainable.  
For all of you tards that 'can't wait for PVP',  The corporations are going to crush everyone else until there is 2 or 3 big corporations left.  This will happen fast.  Climax is over, the game will begin its fast spiral to being obsolete. 
I predict that the devs will make a PVE server after that to keep money coming in.  And the cry-baby-baby-boss' and griefers will find a new game to destroy.

Weight! Add structural integrity.  Nothing wrong with building up, would be awesome to see skyscrapers, but the skinny towers to hold platforms is really bad.

Would be nice, but we're talking about Dual Universe here. 

https://du-creators.org/makers/Shulace
 
Those are my ships.
 
You can enjoy the game all you want, the problem is everyone that enjoyed the game pre 0.23 was having fun too with the game they paid for. That is until the folks like you starting complaining because you don't like seeing other people doing their own thing.
 
I have given up on DU like most, I just chime in for some extra entertainment every so often lol, gotta get my subs worth in.

This project is more than likely going to shut down/go F2P before it becomes a proper game.
 
Its pretty obvious at this point that NQ are unable to develop solutions to the glaring issues that plague the game. You would think leaving the band-aids in place would be a good idea in order to keep your community and subs. Instead they ripped it off because they somehow thought/still think that solo/small gang players were/are ruining the game. Now all the bugs and poor game design decisions are unbearable to the normal folks, the masochist minority love it though.

Now since no one else can use their ore, the large orgs and people already with ALOT of credits are lobbying to remove bots so they can lowball ore for slave labor rates, since they themselves don't wanna mine, they're above that shit, DU is their game in their minds, you should work for them on your sub and they shouldn't pay more than 25h per L of ore. They can always place a buy order for more than that and get all the ore but nah.
 
It boggles my mind why they would do this to their own game and pretty much guarantee its failure. The only folks that remain are the ones that play no other games outside the space-sim genre and are hardcore fans of star citizen(no wonder).
 
 

I've been playing SE sinse it came out in early access late 2013 and still play. The game is by far the best building space game out there (just my opinion). Thing is it filled its agenda, engineer and build things in space.. simple.
There is survival mode in SE, none in DU. Survival mode makes SE hard, but rewarding at the right balance. DU is just pretty boring with no real reward.
 
I know there is a section of the DU community mostly ex Landmark folk who think the game can last on voxelmancy design alone, unfortunately the game will likely go the same way as Landmark, died because a lack of players can't keep a mmo game ticking over.
 
It's a shame, because this game needs all the aspects it was intended to have, pvp, player economy, to mention a couple. But it released far too early into beta (the game is still alpha quality), it has great promise, but will possibly fall before that promise can be materialised.
 
Sad.

Problem is, Minecraft, realisticly, has much more content and variety of gamestyles, then DU. Calling DU "Space Minecraft" is veeery huge compliment currently, even unjust thing to do.