Snipey
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7 minutes ago, Sparktacus said:
I'd be interested to see how the numbers have changed over time, and how many players are logging in regularly.
They will never publish those numbers as they are ashamed and its bad PR
- Sevian and JohnnyTazer
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6 minutes ago, Warlander said:
NQ has now made it so that you cant pick up or drop of in VR so those expoiting the VR Loophole is over in that sense.
Which makes it so that you can do all the exact thing parking alts on mission ships and do the exact same thing and VR in the reverse to do MU calibrations, scans, and asteroid mining ships if you have 1 pilot hunting roids.
It just requires:
- VR taxes by Distance
- VR and all actions using Calibration Charges as Action charges since you are calibrating the VR stations, Calibrating Scanners, Calibrating MUs, etc.
- Diminishing Returns for those constantly Running Missions, Scanners, MUs, etc the more you use it with more efficiency drops.
So for those actually running missions legitly to pay taxes who arent constantly running missions they get bigger cuts then those doing 2 trips a day all week if the diminishing returns are based on the weekly tax cycle.
They could also slowly raise the weight of packages you recieve the more missions you run to also burn off more costs for running the missions if your ship was perfectly tuned for the old mission system and is not build for escalting weight each mission you run and the escalating expenses in space gas.
Imagine trying to handicap the ONLY money generation in the game because "wahhhhhhh wahhhhhhh boo hoooooo"
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3 hours ago, atldrab said:
This scan wipe will only benefit the largest orgs. The smaller orgs will spend months rescanning and getting nothing done. Unbelievable, everyone had time to get scans the past couple of weeks.
So we should punish people trying to build an empire? Get out of here and go play no mans sky if you are that concerned. Most large orgs are fine with this change and were very vocal about why they did not do it first and decided to back track.
People barely want to play the game in its current state. Punishing players because you cant make friends is not our problem.
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Oh yeah, land rush time.
Taxes are still terribly timed as you are not really adding many new things for people to do and punishing those who are waiting for something more to play other than calibrate machines, run missions, and asteroids (old mining but in space)
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10 hours ago, Feriniya said:
"You would be surprised how much change you can affect if you actually tried. "
And you are right, but the second factor, I did not come here to play my game or the game of the community, I nevertheless came here to play THEIR game. And I don’t want to change it, they set the rules, I either adapt and grow, or I’m not happy - I’m not ready to pay and I leave.
It's like falling in love with a girl you like, but not accepting her lack of wealth and trying to change her, forcibly, or under pretexts. But you will not achieve anything good, and what is even worse, many beginners after reading your posts will think that ooo horror in the game. But in fact, the game is only getting better, it can be worse for you personally. But the problem is that a beginner takes data from everywhere without having his own experience. Thus, such things are even more often done by the anti-PR of the company, even if they try, and often the community itself kills the project, and not the developer.
So, even if you can change this girl, only she will no longer be the one you fell in love with, too, here too .. I came to play this game from NQ .. and if I make efforts to change the game as I want, I it will get bored and I will quit the game, because it will not be the game that I came from.
I'm not trying to insist .. on something .. you have the right to have your opinion and decision, but the very fact that you would understand how many people have so many opinions and if you think so does not mean that everyone thinks the way you do. All the best to you .. I will not continue the conversation here any longer ..
with my respect.10 hours ago, Feriniya said:Yes, I understand you perfectly, only it's not a matter of complaisance .. but in the understanding that the mechanics that are introduced are necessary for the game, otherwise we will drown in tons of garbage. Yes, and already drowned. And also the overproduction of spare parts is crazy. And one and the second breaks the game and its base and economy. Therefore, such changes are simply necessary. That is why I agree with them. That is why I am not on your side either.
Yes, and it wouldn’t be .. if something just didn’t suit me, so it would lead me to protests - I would just leave, why should I waste time and nerves, this is a game and not my family .. I can just cancel subscription and leave anytime - and this is the best lesson and indicator for a developer, since you have so much experience, but for some reason you are just trying to arrange coups .. That mean you dont really go from game.. you just wanna game and devs fallow your way and your understanding.. if not.. you any way not go.. what i can see..
Canceling subscriptions and leaving people from the game is an excellent indicator for a developer - in my mind.. And if i realy dont like i just doit..
But if 20 people leave and 500 for example return, then I'm sorry, you were probably wrong. And if it is the other way around, you have nothing to do there, because there will be no people left and you were right. I do not know why you complicate it .. As if you are engaged in mazahism,
"I do not like it, but I will continue to pay to suffer and make coups". you not a tree mate, you can always go where you like..Im getting tired of reporting all your posts. Please learn how to use the forums. You are literally clicking the wrong button.......
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1 minute ago, Feriniya said:
I can apply the same to your posts, but I prefer not to touch you.
But yes, this is not a discussion, in this topic, but a call to protest, which follows even from the name of the topic, and in this case I tried to express my opinion that it is better for the author not to do this. And where are you and your pretensions to me ?. Please pass by.
Um you literally posted 3 times in a row. Do you know you can MULTI QUOTE messages?
I may be toxic but at least my messages make sense.
"Illegal actions" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL#$@#$*)(&YU@#)*$&^@#(&*^%@(#$%Y#What is a ban hammer for $400 Alex
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1 hour ago, Feriniya said:
You are wrong, you can go to jail or go to court for playing under certain circumstances, the game can also sharply become more than "just a game". So let's not say "this is just a game." You are calling \ inciting on people to commit illegal actions in the game. Are you ready to bear responsibility for their bans and losses, because you called on and tried to present yourself as the leader of the uprising / coup?
A game is a financial project = a business that you intend to vandalize and destroy the functions of the business. And also urge other people to do this. This can already be very easily and simply punished by law under certain circumstances.
You are an adult, I hope you will be a little more careful with your statements in the future .. and even more so on the official forum of the project.
Would you like to keep your rambling to one incoherent message please. I get you want to pad your post count with crap but this is a place of discussion. Stop flooding the forums.
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12 minutes ago, Feriniya said:
The fact is that you do not need to listen to guys "crying" every request. Here on the forum there are about 10-15 people who "cry" EVERY patch. But for some reason, in my organization of 25 active people, all of them agree with NQ's decision about demeter. And more to say, half of them read the forum and just laugh at these "Demeter will kill the game" "Taxes are too high" and other Sobbing babies. Honestly, there is a PTS, there is a reviews section, why I didn't really see half of these 10-15 with specific proposals, but they all sit here and stamp one topic after another with angry messages and that everything is gone. But not a single constructive information.
And yes, I came here to play IN THEIR game, and not the one that several people want, and it doesn't matter if it is good or bad, if you don't like the game, you take it and leave, why stink? If the game is really not convenient and not suitable for the players, everyone will leave and the game will close = simple, but the several ppl did not do this, and go to the forum - so here is a tragedy and everything is bad. Sometimes it seems to me that guys yourself are creating an atmosphere of tragedy and the fact that everything is bad - psychology.
Stop it, pls.
"I don't think anything is wrong because I don't know better"
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13 hours ago, Mayumi said:
Wow this got derailed fast
DU is alright, Demeter has it's problems sure, but it's not a complete train wreck as the vocal people make it sound like. Won't stop me from playing, I actually hadn't played in a few months, but came back when I heard about the coming changes. We'll see how it ends up like, but I see more good than bad in it. Not everyone is mad about it, there's players like me who are actually waiting for the patch silently while the forums burn down with hate.Well I certainly hope you see all the people who have posted have at one point last weekend played the PTS so they have reasons to voice he concerns.
I personally think this patch is 1000x worse than 0.23 and already seeing the death of all of the game "loops" or lack there of. This was not the game people signed on for and is regressing to pre 1999 levels of being lame. Meanwhile competitors are implementing features DU is removing.
Having people pay a sub and having beta codes while calling it a beta when CLEARLY its barely and ALPHA is quite the joke.
If you are going to make sweeping changes like this and you tell ALL of your players they know nothing when we all can see the disaster headed towards the game the death of your game will be the result. I have seen many players come and check in on the update and have packed up all their stuff or straight gave up their whole accounts because of this.
I see how you can remain hopeful but seeing the past performance and the response to the questions in the video there is no way this will be an unmitigated disaster for DU and what ever happens after will determine its fate. Cant play the markets if nobody is selling anything due to low pop.
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22 minutes ago, Rheuschek said:
Ummm. Was the price ever $3 per month, I thought is was $7ish per month/3 month sub.
You did the math wrong its 7 per month times 3
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1 hour ago, Verliezer said:
A small calculation ..... assumption, you can sell T1 Ore for 90 quanta or more per ltr ore.
** initial one-off investment to buy a mining unit and a territory unit is not in calculation!
Upkeep cost of territory: 500.000 quanta's
-> (500.000 / 90) / 7 (days) / 24 (hrs) = 33 ltr/hr
A single territory (with no adjacent territories, nor talents) will be profitable from 34 ltr T1 ore ???
Based on this calculation I would say the upkeep costs are too low. Or did I miss something?
How much do you get paid to play this game? I sure as heck don't want it to be a job. Since the end goal is to have paying subs. I don't see a high tax beneficial to the games longevity.
Also you literally did your calculations based on your current knowledge of mining and its impacts within this economy.
Mining becoming a passive phase of the game essentially puts a speed limit on how much you can produce. HOWEVER since its steady all the time the market will slowly go back to PRE HYPER INFLATION prices like 35/l for t1
Economics is fun.
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7 hours ago, CptLoRes said:
And if by some miracle it is not the death of DU, the type of game and players left will be something very different from what it was supposed to be (even more like EVE and less and less like DU the persistent MMO universe).
If people wanted this type of gameplay they would still play EVE.
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4 hours ago, CptLoRes said:
@Kobayashi I just answered you in the other thread, but I will do the same here also.
NQ has strongly hinted that the game will be released by the end of this year. So Demeter going live is pretty much going to be the "finished" game they are going to release.
Is the game ready to be released? No, not even close. But as mentioned, NQ has been going in circles for many years now, and they are running out of money.
This will be the death of the game.
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2 hours ago, Vonboy said:
Welcome aboard!
we're getting towards the end of the current roadmap, so it'd be nice to see what the early 2022 plans are.
Shutting down.
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1 minute ago, Novalok said:
While I don't disagree with the changes to Airbrakes, can you explain why Demeter is the time to implement this? A time where we are all already experiencing a game changing shift in the way we will play Dual Universe, with entire systems being implemented and changed, why would adding an previously un-announced change that will go and cause the majority of constructs to not function properly, be something you thought should be included with Demeter?
With these changes how are we supposed to test the live functionality with all our ships broken?
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On 10/24/2021 at 5:09 AM, Knight-Sevy said:
Hello, I allow myself to re up the discussion on PvP.
A while back I commented on the latest PvP balancing (APOLLO + ARES) This post generated a lot of reaction and comment :
Basically nothing has been done and nothing has been changed.
The PvP in the game is in the foreseeable state for which we alerted you to NQ.
There are large fleets of Nano L without a voxel.We're on a building game and people who build non-Nano ships get a PvP penalty.
The arrival of the DEMETER Patch will push everyone into PvP Zone !
If nothing is done to improve PvP before it arrives it will be dramatic for a large portion of the player.
I allow myself to suggest some "quick" change that can be made that will allow for a healthier game for everyone in PvP :
1) Modification of the cross section mechanics :
The chances of a hit should no longer be determined based on the elements / voxels that you put on your ship.
=> These must be determined by the size of the Core Unit.
This will allow people to have fancy design SCFI ships and not be penalized in combat.
If you want to have a ship with less chance of getting hit: use a smaller sized core.
2) Modified firing ranges for weapons
A weapon larger than the size of the attacked core must not be able to hit that ship.
If an XS weapon has 30 kilometers of range. A core L will only be able to start shooting at it at 50 kilometers range.
You already have the "CORE UNIT LOCK DISTANCE" feature in the game. You just have to reactivate it.
This will give people a chance to try to escape
3) Shield balancing
So that there is no new abuse on the shields, they must be limited in use.
Shield L only on ship L, shield M only on ship M ect ...
You did it for the weapons (offensive means), the defensive means must be balanced the same.
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I will be satisfied with these 3 essential changes for the good health of the PvP in game.
It's not perfect, but it give the time for you think and experience better system for 2022.
As it stands, you are going to send hundreds of unprepared players to their deaths.
And the frustration will be there.
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I'm baffled they even had to ask if there should be a reset....
You are gutting the main core aspect of the game where people have WEEKS/MONTHS invested into those talents..
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30 minutes ago, SneakySnake said:
It is also necessary to deactivate all resurrect nodes on the docked ships of the destroyed carrier ship, because when you destoy a main ship, the player of that ship spawns on the docked ships and starts removing elements of the main ship. All alts on docked cores must also die.....
So you don't want anyone to be able to repair their core? or anything on their ship...
This is turning out to be such a fun game. First ship multi-crew is decimated, then ground mining. Whats next? A space sim where they take your money and remove features they promise and never deliver? -
Good job including Madis in that "Large base list" There are many large bases on Madis and other planets.
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4 hours ago, Zeddrick said:
OK, so there are two things here. Firstly, LUA in DU is not like the LUA in WOW. In DU the lua is part of a construct which can be killed, cored and taken by someone else. And without DRM *the person who takes the construct gets your scripts* when they kill your ship. Or they might get the scripts belonging to whoever gave you them, etc.
However DRM doesn't really enable you to sell scripts at all (outside of certain special situations where you trust another player a lot) because it doesn't work for scripting. The DRM owner of a script is whoever deployed the original construct and built the ship. It's not the person who wrote the script. So as a script writer you either become a ship builder too and sell ships or you're SOL when it comes to selling scripts because you can't have any DRM protection at all on them. You can't even put PvP scripts you write on your own PvP ships unless you built them from scratch because you have to ask the original owner to enable DRM, then every time you want to change your own script you have to ask them to come do it again. Or you can fly without DRM and if someone kills you then they get to take your PvP script and they can sell it to other people if they want.The whole thing is miserable. I'm waiting for NQ to do it properly before I even think about selling scripts. Until then my scripts are for me only.
Thank you for explaining my joke. Glad you got it.
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4 hours ago, Kirth Gersen said:
Get ride of in-game DRM for scripts too. DRM is killing this game. If you don't understand why then this game is doomed. WoW had no DRM for LUA and it was never a problem.
Imagine spending hundreds of hours of work on a script in game that you would like to sell for a small bit of quanta. DRM enables that.
Remember. You don't need to enable DRM if you don't want to.
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1 hour ago, XKentX said:
oh boi.
First trailer mentions it you say. That sure makes the game PVP-combat oriented and full of hard core players searching for blood.
Trailer even shows one of the ships firing on another and actually hitting it !!! Moreover, the voxels of the other ship react to the hit and bend !!!
Only half implementing systems as they go. Imagine a civ building game where all you do is pvp. Why even play at that point? What is there to play?
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Why are the docking areas so massive? I cant even leave one docked construct on a station to lock it in place because I'm "on a dynamic construct" My ships will just float away. Your "solution" seems to have fixed nothing and made things worse.
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Calling this a "GAME" is laughable.
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I don't understand why NQ is making so many drastic short sighted design changes without fixing the core of the game.
I have played this game for over 1 year now and have only seen them take features and ruin mechanics without seeing them fully realized. All while at the same time ignoring basic QOL features like what I mentioned.
Why are you trying to kill your "game" (or whatever is left that you want to call a "game")?