Revelcro

Sorry, our org moved to Madis...
I stuck it out on our tile next to yours for a few more months and continued to develop the area but got bored playing alone... sometimes entire weeks would pass and I would not see anyone.
Madis is slightly less deserted than Sanctuary.

This is  a six hex area.... Just on the corner of the sharp kink in the road -centre frame- is Madis Market Place 3... It looks absolutely tiny compared to what we're building... It's fun when multiple orgs get together, share resources and collaborate... almost feels civilised. ?



 
The thing is, we are hemmed in by hexes belonging to former colleagues of our orgs who have completely and explicitly left the game...  (you can see those feeble little buildings on the edges of the screenshot...) and there are absolutely no mechanics by which we can gain access to those areas.

You know someone attacking a territory in a pvp zone specifically built for territory warfare isn't a "griefer". I swear to fucking christ the dumbest mother fuckers come to these forums.

Not interested in self-styled leaders stroking their... egos.
 
when I make ships, they all have all the mod cons like kitchens, toilets, bedrooms etc. 
 
ive made hotels, offices, restaurants and other completely unnecessary things that make the place feel more real. 
 
that’s the extent of my roleplaying. Certainly wouldn’t root for anyone who just comes along and declares themselves a leader.  

"Evil Queen of Madis"  Give her due respect please.

The whole concept of designing dispensers that accepted money but didn’t actually show what they dispensed was pretty indicative of NQ’s naïveté, IMHO. 
 
pretty much like how J-“it will potentially take months to get into space”-C himself seems to underestimate the level and cunning of his player base at every given opportunity, almost like clockwork.
 
 

I'm introducing a new term. This game is now L2P (Login to Play). Meaning you first have to get players to actually want to log in, before they can play..

Just so we are clear here.  There was a PVP event and everybody is mad that BOO showed up?  Last I checked it was kind of their thing.

Regardless of your excuse, calling anyone autistic on the forum breaks the rules (pretty sure but I hate reading rules). You know guys, none of this would have happened if you paid BOO to defend your event. ? the other guys would have just attacked us since they are obviously so noble. Make better decisions next time. Wanna play in PVP pay the pirates not to attack you. We will happily extort your quanta for you... or... from you? Anyways, cheers! ? 

Of course... a toxic org doesnt find toxic people toxic but "helpful". No one is surprised about that

Speaking of promotion (beyond moral issues of this particular event).
 
Simple fact: DU promoted on its "landmark-style" aspect for years now, every mucking day Twitter and FB have have:
 
"Look at this another fancy crap built by another voxelmancer, DU is so amazing blablabla". For some reason its generaly only kind of post DU SMM guy (?) bother to master.
 
Yet, its also safe to assume, this "promotion" not exactly working. Millions of players not storming our front door. Sure, here and there some nerd get exited over his own Death Star with blackjack and hookers, but majority of outside gamers (who can join us) I think want some actual (idealy -- comptetitive -- this is MMO) gameplay action.

I just turned on auto-renew yesterday to keep supporting the game, then instantly turned it off. Without telling me or prompting me the game charged my account for a year of service... when  I originally signed up for 3 months. Fairly sure that's not legal.... but I won't touch the legal aspects because that seams to be the only reason any thread on the forums gets closed.

It's a monstrous political witch hunt by the liberal elites plotting against you, a prominent political figure ?

Though technically, since you can't get in anyway, a GM in game wouldn't be that much help to you.
I just hope their ticket system is now up to snuff assuming that they have reassigned staff to that from their social media and not just silently asked them to go home.

Eh, Lacobus iirc was originally scanned out via a group using an exploit to do instant scans. Likewise, what wasn't picked over by them, other  organizations gobbled up.
 
The current territory scanners only scan down to 3000m from the point they are placed. Most ore is found within that gap. 
 
The devs could/will seed higher tier ore below 3000m, then introduce T2, T3, T4 scanners that scan to a deeper level. It would allow current ore distribution to remain untouched, while adding more content, making it more fun/hard to mine deeper down. 
 
For example Thoramine was supposedly found at negative 6000m, below what out current scanners routinely do. Maybe there is already ore down there and we haven't found it yet? *x-files music* wasn't Thoramine found on Lacobus too?!! 

.23 was an excellent update. It lacked a basic thought of how an economy works. The only job to make $ is dig and its very boring. Had .23 came with this mission system people would not have flocked out of the game as fast as they did.

As you 5 min ago posted in nearby topic: "Stop whining. Git gud".

Double standards, mate, so double.

Looking forward to the scathing expose` on Madis and how it is ruining the Alioth job market.

Yes, another newspaper. Feeling creative while materials smelt. 

of course more scams... This game caters to the worst kind of players.  Trusting gamers to make a civilization is like trusting a fat lady in a bakery to not overeat...

So the below obviously all my opinion/thoughts only.. even when the writing is on the wall in a pretty bold typeface 
 
 
Monday came and went. NQ does not care and have closed this issue internally. They think and hope that by ignoring it, it will just go away and the comments will end. They expect us to be good kids and let them off the hook once again. The level of ignorance and disrespect is astounding. But I expect they stopped reading these threads (if they ever did) as .. they could not care less and will just ride it out until if blows over again. The few that can and likely would want to engage are probably told to step back and stay out of the discussion.
 
 
Today is the day that the additional month subscription runs out for the ones that were eligible. It would be interesting to see what happens next. I'm guessing NQ may actually silently allow subs to continue for a bit in the hopes some will (eventually) resub. They're down to tricks to try and keep the player count up. Meanwhile, going into month 6 of "beta", claimed tiles count on Sanctuary is pretty much stuck around 35K (Alioth is well behind at below 30K) and with 20K+ backers and their 40-60K beta keys, 60-80K potential player accounts that all play free through beta, it is fair to question the viability of the game as far as revenue. NQ won't say obviously, but the numbers we have and see speak volumes. Two offices in very expensive locations, around 100 staff, external partners and massive server infrastructure cost will roll around what I'd expect to be substantial 6 figure monthly operating cost at least.
 
 
As I see it, DU will be the next Landmark, it will continue to run for a bit longer and then the announcement comes that he servers wil be shut down and the company dissolved. NQ will be the next in line of indie devs with a dream but lacking the ability to actually make it work, killing their own game by stacking one mistake onto the next without ever really taking ownership and ignoring their player base. At this point, I have my doubts whether they can make it to the end of the year, I see nothing that makes my think they might at this point.
 
Frankly, when the end comes, they only have themselves to blame. Their lack of engagement, responsiveness and support as well as their indecisiveness and failure to utilize and understand their userbase (and take them serious) is what will have done them in.
 
And yes, I hope I am wrong in having this rather bleak outlook here and NQ has a trick up their sleeve we don't know about to pull through and deliver the game they say they will. But the numbers just do not add up. DU deserves and has the potential to be better but I just fear NQ is not the company capable to deliver.
 

Ok don't take this too seriously but a guildmate a while back provided a possibly answer as to why NQ has NOT ever in any way rolled back to "previous backups"........they simply can't.  Because more than once it would have Made WAAAAAY more sense to rollback a day or a few hours in order to fix a humongous issue caused by a hotfix/patch.  There is a mind boggling amount of data going back and forth between the client and servers, hourly.   A "complete backup" of all game data and player data may simply not exist.  The game itself at current patch, sure.  But all the player data and state of the universe.  Possibly not.
 
NQ may simply not be able to do it.  At least not yet.  They can obviously track and make changes to market trades, as we got a refund on schematics.  So they could probably nix all the schematics bought for certain ticket items at a time.  A reverse of what they did last time with the schematics price drop and refund.  But they would have done so by now, and they havent.  Which is worrisome into itself.

Why is this such a hard thing to fix?  Just find those purchases in the database, refund the money to the player, and remove the schematics.  It might be too late by now, players may have already made millions selling them off.  But if they REALLY cared about the economy as much as they say they do, they could find out who bought one and reverse that purchase as well.
 
IDK, probably too late.  What a cluster****.

I will explain why ppl are angry today , using myself as an example:
 
after 0.23 patch, i had to spend 200 mil quanta on schematics to get my warp cell/warp drive factory running again.
 
the decided to go for long grind for warp beacon production line:
 
Schematics/ rare industry units cost me around 450 mil quanta. then managed to accumulate 500 mil towards warp beacon schematic.
 
Long  painful grind , hours of mining/hauling / market trading sometimes even at a cost of sleep , as I am an adult with real life responsibilities.
 
1 Billion 150 million quanta ,I have accumulated at a cost of many many hours ,was yesterday  reduced to 11.5 million.  Instead of being one of the few making beacons , i have nothing , when some have it for free.
 
How can i be happy and understanding?
 
 
 

History lesson: Several months ago and long before dreaded patch .23 there was a patch day we lovingly called "Batch Enhancement Day".  It was hilarious.  Basically if you had a big enough factory then it ended up making MASSIVE amounts of certain items, like just a mind boggling amount of em.  It instantly made near billionaires of a few guild members when the sold the items to the bots.  Obviously unintended and seriously game breaking, so we waited for the wipe/reset......
 
It never came.  Ever.
 
After that we knew that NQ either can't rollback or is unbelievably unwilling to rollback, no matter what.  When cluster**** patch .23 happened a few newer guild members expected a rollback, we laughed at them.  They may revert some changes, but rolling back the entire servers is just not going to happen.
 
And it still won't happen.
 
So, anybody got an extra warp beacon schematic?  I would like to get that line up and running again for my bro.

Just warped to telamai. Didn’t see anyone. 
kinda sad. I think they’re trolling. 
warping back. 
 
I can go hours in this game without seeing people.