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The (closed NDA) forum had good vibes for about a year or two. But by then is was already starting to be clear how NQ operated, and things started to change quickly..

I don't care if the information was leaked or not.
 
Because the real problem here is being able to completely control a number of limited finite resources in a MMO, and then being able to hold them indefinitely. That is just bad design.
 
And being able to it in 24h or less is ridiculously bad design..
 
So thank <entity> we had this long beta before release, where NQ worked actively with the community to get all the kinks out.

You are not alone on that.
 
I used to strongly dislike ore mining because it was such a repetitive task. But never in a million years did I think that NQ would find something even more repetitive, pointless and boring like the MU's to replace it with.
 
And it is sad that the few times NQ as truly been able to surprise the community with something, it has been in a negative way.

Whoever told you this has been rewriting history. The original kickstarter for DU never said the game would be mainly focusing on PvP. The main focus was always on making a open world civilization building game.
 
The official kickstarter title for the game is "Dual Universe :: Civilization Building Sci-Fi MMORPG"
And here is a quote of every sentence that mention PvP in the kickstarter campaign.
 
 
 
And if you google Dual Universe here is the first information NQ has about the game.

 
So.. Does this sound like a hardcore PvP game to you?
 
Edit:
And the thing I keep coming back to that I find fascinating is that while you won't find any builders arguing against there being PvP in the game. Instead what they they are saying that it should be possible to enjoy the game without doing PvP as promised in the kickstarter.
 
Some PvP'ers on the other hand seem utterly incapable of seeing anyone wanting to play a game without PvP, and have no problem arguing for tearing down everything people spend months building and belittling people by calling them "carebears" etc.
 

You are not alone on that.
 
I used to strongly dislike ore mining because it was such a repetitive task. But never in a million years did I think that NQ would find something even more repetitive, pointless and boring like the MU's to replace it with.
 
And it is sad that the few times NQ as truly been able to surprise the community with something, it has been in a negative way.

Despite what NQ would like, people want to be self sufficient. So if a stable source of T2 is unavailable for most, they will use T1 instead regardless of price.

Sounds like NQ has reduced server capacity, again.
The problems described here are usually caused by client server desynchronization, which happens when the servers are over utilized and lagging behind the client.

Everyone knows memes is the only valid currency on the internet.

If the economy is so fragile that salvaging some wrecks can break it, then I am sad to say that it is already broken..
 
And having a healthy economy at the expense of players being able to enjoy the game is a fallacy. I mean the entire reason for a game is to entertain for f**** sake!

So you’re saying I use it for evil?? I am insulted, we shall duel!  
 
 
oh, not implemented, nm.

If the economy is so fragile that salvaging some wrecks can break it, then I am sad to say that it is already broken..
 
And having a healthy economy at the expense of players being able to enjoy the game is a fallacy. I mean the entire reason for a game is to entertain for f**** sake!

A song and dance number.. nope that's where I draw the line.. NQ, ban please!!!!
 
 
 
 
 

That is an straw man argument since nobody argued against PvP.
 
The argument was always against making PvP more importation then building or any of the other 6 pillars, in a game that was sold as "make your own game" and clearly had a focus on persistent open world building in the kickstarter. I.e. make the game you sold us.
 
But the simple truth is that NQ sucks at game design for both builders and PvPers..
 

A song and dance number.. nope that's where I draw the line.. NQ, ban please!!!!
 
 
 
 
 

sigh.. Having to ask for 5-10 wrecks in a frigging MMO is ridiculous..
Any other game you just run in circles for 10 seconds and voila, something to grind in a relatively fun and engaging way.

sigh.. Having to ask for 5-10 wrecks in a frigging MMO is ridiculous..
Any other game you just run in circles for 10 seconds and voila, something to grind in a relatively fun and engaging way.

Reference:
https://dictionary.apa.org/gaslight
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agent provocateur (more polite than 'patsy')
Prior evidence of insider knowledge resulting in blatant imbalances.
 
I came to the table in good faith and offered input, suggestions, and value for the game and community.  Telling us how to jump through hoops with enough flame but not too much when we're not heaping praise upon you is a MAJOR RED FLAG. Every step along the way since launch that has been "mishandled" has been called out yet we get short notice for a single planet being released?  NQ has shaved the doubts balanced on Occam's Razer so thin that we're left with two equally horrible possible explanations; malfeasance or catastrophic incompetence.  Each patch has just enough "good enough" to temporarily pull attention away from consistent, repeated abuse of your community.  
 
There seems to be tons of smoke billowing around every patch.  It couldn't possibly be someone's pants ablaze?  Nah, nothing to see here...
 

Ohh look! Just as we said the wipe did not solve anything.
 
And instead all we got (as predicted) was a a new 'master race' with orgs who had detailed plans learned from beta on how to maximize their efforts at release.
And they have now literately taken over the game at the expense of everyone else trying to play.

You do not need hundreds of coders, you need a solid long term plan and directions and management that are not insane and go around changing the plan every 2nd day, or spinless and just say yes all the time to upper management.
Mapping out your project is ½ the coding.
Maintain good structure and dont add little hack fixes all over the place, make sure it is cleaned up.
 
There is a good amount of evidence in NQ/DU that show they just slap stuff together hoping for the best

He said "I have been performing scans of all planets",  so yes I think it is safe to say he also scanned non-safe planets.
 
But even if this was only on "safe" planets, there is something fundamentally wrong with the game if someone puts down this much effort and is still not able to find a sustainable source of anything > T1 ore. And it literally means that any new player must join an existing org (who owns higher tier tiles) or be stuck as a T1 peasant for the remainder of the game.

Why is it that PvP'ers seems perfectly fine with forcing other players to play a certain way against their will?
 
The simple fact is that those players that want to PvP are already doing so, and those that do not find joy in PvP are not. And no amount of calling them 'carebears' are going to change that.

Why is it that PvP'ers seems perfectly fine with forcing other players to play a certain way against their will?
 
The simple fact is that those players that want to PvP are already doing so, and those that do not find joy in PvP are not. And no amount of calling them 'carebears' are going to change that.

You are correct that the roadmap is not the actual issue, it is a symptom.  There is only so much we as the community can do working in the dark.  I heard a comment on the stream that just about turned me three shades of livid; asking for suggestions to counterbalance negative comments.  I'm fairly sure that the VAST MAJORITY of comments about communication between the devs and the community were for that EXACT PURPOSE.  The topics are too complex to hash out in a meaningful way one-sided.  Anything other than a discussion with two way communication is a demand in one form or another.  NQ made it this far not listening to us and slaps us across the proverbial face when we get frustrated trying to get their attention in a less than destructive way.  If we have to spell it out all upfront then we may as well make the game ourselves and cut out that form of frustration, albeit likely replaced with a different frustration or three.
 
Suggestion to fix (unchanged over years):  Communicate with us.
 

Since we are talking about fuel again.
I have the same questions again and again.
1. Why space fuel weighs 6 times more than its ingredients. And in general, many times more than mineral ores and many refined ingots. Even more iron ore.
2. When we finally have ONE space fuel and not 4 different ones. If they add more cosmic fuel from T1, will there be 5 or 8 fuels?
3. If it doesn't work with recipes, when will it be possible to mix different types of space fuel in a tank?

No originally it wasn't marketed as a PVP game. It was marketed as a community Builder with PVP aspects. It wasn't until these loser Griefers caught the ear of NQ and started pressuring them to make a solely PVP game. The game used to be a lot of fun but ever since they took all the aspects that made the game great out and replace them with nothing but PVP the game is dead due to their hand. It was the Community Builders that was sold a bad bill of goods not the pvps NQ is one of the most dishonest lying sax a crap I have ever come across. They do sneaky and underhanded stuff and then have the audacity to call foul feel sorry for me where the poor devs when the community doesn't like what they're doing. If you enjoy the PVP I wish you the best I do not it's the worst feature of the game and it will never get any better. I'm sorry I sound so bitter but I played the game for a very long time and I've seen the good times and now the only thing that's left of the bad ones. The best thing that can happen to this game is NQ goes out of business and sells the rights to a developer that knows what they're doing with game development and Community Building