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How long it may take util we get sick of grinding the same minig unit re calibration minigame again, and again and again and...
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

My question: 
What is the purpose for taxes. Why are they implemented into game? 
Second question: 
What is the new and interesting gameplay loop which taxes generate?

I agree by 100%

Game has lost its track and became punishing simulator.

NQ Game designers: please reconsider about what you are doing.
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes -

Territory taxes will kill this game.

- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

There are ways to kick inactive players without taxing the current player base to death i.e. out of the game and yes and no on the mining will bring enough ore to pay the taxes if the prices of ore fall then what. Now we all know that is not likely to happen in the short term but it could then there would not be enough to pay the taxes and that is also a relative term and really driven by how many tiles each player owns. 

It is NQ:s game designers and their weird believes about what is fun is what will kill this game.
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

How long it may take util we get sick of grinding the same minig unit re calibration minigame again, and again and again and...
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

It is NQ:s game designers and their weird believes about what is fun is what will kill this game.
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

Territory taxes will kill this game.

- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

I agree 100%
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

How long it may take util we get sick of grinding the same minig unit re calibration minigame again, and again and again and...
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

It is NQ:s game designers and their weird believes about what is fun is what will kill this game.
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

Are you sure that tiles which become free is any loot?
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

I agree 100%
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

I agree 100%
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

So it looks like after the preview video you snuck in a resource pool. If this continues to Live I would just like to say that I think having a tile become empty after spending all that effort to do the slow painful extraction process is REALLY REALLY annoying and I personally find it EXTREMELY discouraging.
 

everything looks great. EXCEPT the taxes! 1m is way too much! should be only 100,000 a week with a max of 3 month prepay! 

I agree 100%
 
- Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - 

Ok, usually i am not negative but the balance of Demeter on the PTS server has some severe problems.
 
1. Territory costs of 1m per week:
this will lead to almost nobody claiming any tiles any more outside of the sanc moon unless the territory can produce some serious income. so all "player made content" will disappear after some time
 
2. Scanning results do not get deleted and show l/h for mining units
this will lead to ALL really valuable tiles being claimed within the first 24h after demeter goes live, as it is really easy to identify  the most powerful tiles for mining units if you have containers full with scanner results.
so after day 1, the fun is over and the "mega tiles" will be claimed by those players/orgs that have all the existing scans.
 
NQ, as demeter is balanced on the PTS, it would kill the game if it goes to the live server
 
- New players some days later would not have a chance to find income opportunities despite missions.
- earning quanta will be a lot harder, so people would stop spending.. this would kill industrialists workflow.
- the imbalance between experienced players/orgs and new players would get worse and even more players would demand a wipe or simply not enjoy the game

please reconsider your decisions.

Hagbard.


 

I want to voice a strong agreement with this post and add the atmo brake change will be disastrous to nearly every ship. Something like this needs more time and socialization.

Hello,
The taxation of the territory will force people, and me first, to drop my footing on ALIOTH and keep only my base on SANCTUARY.
Pity

Re: Airbrake obstruction - NQ, if you are going to introduce these design breaking changes to flight elements, whilst long overdue, at least have the decency to TELL US - this unannounced change is bad form.

With the latest PTS, Atmospheric brakes are now being obstructed. As far as I am aware, this was not a change we were warned about, and on the PTS has broken 90%+ of my, and my friends ships. 

If this is intended, this release is NOT the time to make this change. We as players need time to update constructs to work properly under the new requirements, and we cannot worry about making said changes, while we are also trying to test the new elements and systems on the PTS.


 

Fixed it for you.
For most veterans the game has not gotten any better, features are scrapped and continue to be scrapped. promises are broken and exploids ignored. Indeed there is also good stuff coming in and it depends on when you entered the stage of DU to actually see the game going up Or down. For those with billions from exploids that were never taken away this patch gives them only even more power over those who play it fair as they will never have to worry about taxes and can just wait for nice spots to come free

Just one weekend of PTS and maybe a second if NQ thinks it's needed? Announced a day before the first session starts?
That feels like NQ will go with the current patch unless something _really_ major pops up and then still only has one more weekend to test.
 
I feel this may be the make or break patch for DU, and it feels like NQ is not really giving it time to perculate.
 
But it will be interesteing to see what happens. I was considering reinstalling PTS for this to give the update a fair shake but this very limited access makes that impossible.. which is too bad.