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  1. some help NQ to develop a better way for the game to be player driven game play, so here it is. add a industry unit that does research of schematics, it does not require any resources only time like the talent tree. this idea will allow players to sell schematics and the market will flow between players rather than getting suck into NQ wallet which doesnt get used, because the ore is only getting used to sell to the bots you have and not for building anything by players which is destroying the game. it was a great idea at the time but now you are still losing players every day. back to the research unit, place the schematic for the unit itself on the market so people can buy and build it, allow the unit to see all the schematics available so players can choose to use the schematics or sell them to other players, that way the in game money circulates. allow players to have multiple of these so they can research different things they want to build or sell. obviously have different time scales for each schematic that it can make. Finally the last point and most important point is this allows for NQ to add new items to the game without having to put the new item on all planets and markets for a price, you just add it to the units list of schematics and the players will start researching it.
  2. Currently industrial machines on a non pvp intended landscape have an infinite lifespan. This means that the market for them is only as viable as peoples lack of ownership in them and nothing else, once u get one u have it forever and that... that is unsustainably broken. Id think that a 6-10 week operational lifespan, with machines throwing random errors after thier lifespan stopping production, and requiring either consistent repair or just flat out replacement. This will create a sustainable market for industrial machines ... i think.
  3. Hello Noveans! I'm quite new to the game itself and MMOs too, but something that definitely caught my attention was how the Industry is pretty much blocked for new players. Even when getting smaller/starter machinery, you just can't go on and start progressing, or even refining/crafting things that are possible using the Nanocrafter. But yeah, there's the question of balancing stuff, as it would be ideal to people having specialized factories for goods, plus not getting to endgame too early, so I was thinking of creating some sort of mechanic like a Research menu, where one can select an item from their inventory and start researching it. The original item would be consumed and maybe some extra thing could be required for this too (maybe research points, just like talent points), and after some time the research would end and we get an schematic of that item. That schematic then could be sold on the market or used on industry, whatever fits the player better. Doing so would reduce the need of bots selling schematics and would allow players to have an alternative way of getting schematics. One looking for a quick way could go on and buy the schematics from bots or other players, while other could chose to buy the item itself and spend some time researching it (if they don't have enough talent points). This also keeps the balancing that Schematics brought to the game, as they will still be something hard to obtain, but not so hard that the only way to get them is paying a very high price. Other possible thing on this is having a Tech Tree that works just like Talents, where one can queue up items to be researched, but with all the required parts and steps being required to be researched first. This would have no cost to the player itself in terms of having to buy the item first, but would require an extended period of time to have things researched, so we're exchanging time for money pretty much. That way one could also get basic industry Schematics while just investing time to queue them up... What do you guys think?
  4. Hello, my name is primes I’m the super legate of genos, genos is an organization with big goals and dreams. We are planning ont building a massive trading space station on the safe zone, military bases on every planet to protect our members, well planed military system with regular military operation and so much more.
  5. Swap Spot swaps your Ore for Elements, you don’t need Quanta, nothing to buy, just Swap! Swap Spot is your own personal industry without you needing to know a thing about industry! Don’t waste time digging needlessly, comparing prices and traveling from market to market, get popular Elements at Swap Spot! Swap Spot is much more than a combination of Industry and Market! Swap Spot is hundreds of times faster than nano-pack crafting and substantially faster than traditional industry complexes. Swap Spot delivers a variety of Elements simultaneously and in volume, without you needing to touch an industry machine or know a single recipe! Swap Spot runs at maximum resource efficiency and evaluates ore fairly, unlike traditional markets that often pay a fraction of what its worth. Swap Spot is vertically integrated, cutting out all the middle men! Swap Spot’s efficiency and fairness means that your ore is worth more, which means more Elements and less digging! Swap Spot enables Ore Freedom! Only got coal to swap? No problem! Swap Spot will still make Elements for you! That’s right, you DO NOT need to provide the exact ore needed to make the elements you need! Just provide Swap Spot with the ore it needs. That’s Ore Freedom – that’s Swap Spot! How does Swap Spot work? * Your ore is assigned Resource Points, RP for short. * The higher the RP, the more valuable that ore is to the Swap Spot. * Elements have a set RP value. * Swap Spot swaps the ore RP value for the Element RP value. Step 1) Determine that you have enough ores at the value shown to order the elements you need. Step 2) Simply click the name of the element(s) you want on the screen. Step 3) Using the +1 / +10 / -1 / -10 buttons assign the number of element you want Step 4) you can use the <Page / Page> buttons to move through the several pages of available elements. Step 5) The total order value is shown on the top of the screen, assuming you have enough ores to start the transaction click on the ORDER button at the bottom of the screen. Note: You can order multiple different elements at the same time speeding up the process dramatically. Step 6) Once you order your elements simply deposit the ores you wish to swap in the provided container hubs. The ore gets removed and Resource Points, RP's, are assigned to your order and are tallied at the bottom of the screen. (Please make sure you have enough ore to fully pay for your order.) Step 7) Then simply wait for the Swap Spot to deliver your order - note deliveries can take several minutes, so please be patient. When an element arrives in a container hub the light next to it will flash Note: Swap Spot delivers the higher Resource Point elements first. Step 8 ) Once you have all your items simply leave the Swap Pod. This will auto end the transaction. Swap Spot makes getting Elements easy! Oh, you don't have ores? No problems! Swap Spot is surrounded by six, yes SIX hexes for surface rock gathering! Sure, its not ideal, but, it means you can go from zero to hero in a very short time! (And its also great for parking!) Swap Spot is ideal for newbies, veterans, individuals and corps alike; anyone who wants the best value for their ore! Need Quanta? Sell Swap Spot Elements on the Market! Swap Spot is under construction and has a small, but growing selection of available Elements. We invite you to take advantage of Swap Spot TODAY! Location on Madis (Part of Tortuga) : ::pos{0,1,77.4321,73.2716,790.7706} Come join us on Discord to get daily prices: https://discord.gg/tvbADay Note: Tortuga is Dual Universes premier city state merchant hub, where the best come to play. An appropriate place for Swap Spots first location. *** Ore is swapped in batches off 100, so order everything together *** *** One item of fuel equals 100L *** *** Use multiple ore types at the same time to increase Payment Speed ***
  6. Current schematics mechanics is pretty much economical black hole which destroys economy as it is instead of reinvigorating it. Currency in economy should flow and not think into black hole, in order to keep economy itself working. Also, schematics themselves also need to become source of income for players, they shouldn't be just dumped onto market via NPC. My idea is to introduce a Schematics Printer that follows these principles: 1) Players can craft T1 Schematics Printer via Nanoforge. 2) T1 Schematics Printer can print any T1 schematics + schematics of T2 Schematics Printer. 3) T2 Schematics Printer can be produced in T1 Medium Assembly, T3 → T2, T4 → T3 and T5 → T4. 4) Schematics Printer is a very long term industry unit. Printing schematics with it should be slow, but reasonable. 5) For example: T1 Schematics takes 24h to print, T2 → 48h, T3 → 96h, T4 → 192h and T5 → 384h. 6) T1 Schematics Printer should not require any talent to use, but T2 should require Lv.1 talent, T3 → Lv.2 & etc. 7) Obviously, Schematics Printer shouldn't require any schematics to print schematics. Time is the cost here.
  7. Now that schematics have been implemented with the last patch, I went to the nearest market and purchased a decent amount of schematics to use at my small industry. Upon returning to my base I began to load schematics into their respective industry units. I clicked the first industry unit, a smelter, and all of the schematics I had just purchased showed up as an option to put into the smelter. I sorted through all my schematics and loaded the ones that went to the smelter but it got me thinking about a simple ease of use sorting feature. I propose that only the schematics that can be used in any given industry unit show up when loading schematics. As players acquire more and more schematics it is going to become a pain to have to sort through all of the schematics you own just to find the one you need. This can easily be remedied though with the simple addition of a sorting filter to show only useable schematics.
  8. Big problems : 1) bots are selling the indy schematics which are very expensive, and drain the players moneys => money are heading out of the economy. 2) players have to sell ores to market bots to make money to buy >1)< leaving them to little to buy components to mantain the economy. If they buy schematics and sell ores to make money for schematics => vast ore quantities are heading out of the game economy 3) Players cannot generate revenue in many ways. Possible solution: I. Make Aphelia an real entity (innaccesible org) ingame, held by devs - which stores both money and ores from markets > money in a wallet and ores in market bins. Both assets remain ingame . II.Corresponding To each market district, at a certain distance not to *clog* to much the area, factory buildings (Held by Aphelia) should be placed by developers. The actual fun starts now. -*APHELIA OWNED FACTORY CONCEPT*- In each factory there is going to be an certain number of production lines, each production line will have one job, which will be available for players. Job can be implemented as a mini-game consisting in players choosing one element to build -lets say M atmo engine from the element list. In order to build the element, players will have to chose sub-elements it is built from and take those in his inventory. After that he will chose a construct tool and brush the frame engine, an animation apear (maybe similar to space engineers? ) on how that element is constructed, thus in an certain time ( usually several seconds maybe half of minute, depending on the element) the finite engine will be constructed. Engine will go to Aphelia inventory and player will be rewarded with an small sum for each unit constructed.That sum of quanta is related to how expensive that element is on market. Each unit constructed by players will end up in market, sold by Aphelia so the number of sold elements will be linked to how many elements were constructed by players. III. The factories will have inventories which require to be fed with ores from the market bins in order to produce elements. In this regards there will be issued missions to carry the bulk ore from the markets to factories in ships. Carried ore cannot be stolen or interacted with, it is simply loaded in one site, and offloaded into a factory. Same mechanic is apply to elements constructed in those factories. If elements either ores or components stays to much into an cargo container they will automatically return back to initial spot. IV. Factories are upgradable depending on how much success each factory have on producing elements. They can become very large, can start from 4 players using them and going to more than 20 players. The reward per element and per day will increase with the factory level giving incentive to players to contribute to its development. An balancing factor may be that an fix sum per day can be rewarder per player. Ofc, some new gamecode have to be written to enable those features, but hail to the development time. This rough ideea *MAY* adress *SOME* issues: -money and ore will return to players in different forms -created elements by players will go to markets. This can address some elements shortages. -diversify the range of activities from which players can make money -creating enganging new activities and trade routs from markets to factories and vice-versa, string of cargo hauling missions -may create better pilots- -allowing novice players to understand what industry will require if they want to build it and familiarize them with the notions of elements recipes. -Aphelia owned tiles in the spawning area will begin to look a bit more realistic, with multiple structures on them, ships going from one district to another. -animations made for the mini-game of element constructing can be added to actual elements placing when a player is constructing a ship, adding a nice construction effect to the game. Fundamentally mining will still be the base of all game loops, but its required for realistically sustain the economy until players settle down huge production batches.
  9. They're made in an Assembly Line L and require more resources than the industry units which actually produce something. They only allow one item type to be moved at a time. They can pull from multiple containers/hubs, and place into one. My biggest issue with industry is running out of sockets on containers. For example, the container with my basic connectors has no more output sockets and I want to connect another electronics to it. So.. I could create another container, and electronics, and then connect to that. Or, I could use a transfer unit to spread the output from the first (which is keeping up with demand just fine) to two containers. The former solution is a lot cheaper than the latter.. but it irks me because it's less efficient in terms of space and optimised production. If transfer units were cheaper, it would be ok. If transfer units could handle multiple resources, it would be ok. But, as it stands, it's just plain annoying. I realise that if reached the point where I needed 2 electronics producing basic connectors full time it would cease to be a problem, .. for basic connectors. But the same issue will simply happen again for something further down the chain. For me, the fun here is building a well oiled machine and to do that I need a bit more flexibility with things like this.
  10. https://lgfrbcsgo.github.io/du-factory-generator/ Given a set of items, the number of assemblers producing each item, and the quantity to maintain in the output containers, this tool will generate a full production line from ores to the requested items. The designed factory plan will ensure that all production rates are satisfied, so that the factory will run at full capacity. Each item type is stored in an individual container so that factory monitor scripts can monitor their contents. Here is an example factory plan, where one assembler was requested for Container L, Nitron Fuel, and Polycarbonate Plastic. Feedback is needed to improve the application! Please let me know here if you encounter any problems or have any suggestions for improving the app. Alternatively, you can submit issues or pull requests on Github, or join our Discord server to chat more (look for lgfrbcsgo or Nikolaus). Enjoy!
  11. First off amazing game, that needs to be said. Secondly apologies if this was already suggested. I recognize and applaud the decision to not allow industry on ships (why build a static construct when you can have a mobile factory) but I'd like to suggest introducing a mobile/dynamic fuel industry element and the same for a mobile scrap industry element that can be placed on dynamic cores. For balance you could restrict or reduce the output compared to its static counter-part, in the form of longer craft time/smaller output or decreased efficency. You could also limit the number of mobile elements by core size, until a suitable power system is in the game. From my point of view, it's benefits would be three fold; greater independence when exploring space/getting caught out less often out of fuel, something to do/manage during long space flights (I hope DU will get much bigger in the near future) and finally I think its fitting with sci-fi genre (deep space ships need to be able to autonomously refuel).
  12. Here is a quick video tutorial on how to install and some basic usage for this version. ➡️Video Tutorial⬅️ It was brought to my attention that the spoilers were giving errors when pasted to the programming boards. The spoilers were removing bits of the JSON for some reason. So instead, I have added links to the code located between these ➡️⬅️. You can either right click the link and Save As. Or you can click on the link which will open a new page. You copy and paste the entire page into your programming board. This is a work in progress. The development is completed, but it is constantly being refined and upgraded. I encourage and welcome feedback and you are more than welcome to submit your own code, in the comments, for consideration. You can also email me using the link in the first comment. See 1st comment for more info. Here is the JSON code. Just copy/paste it to the programming board. There was a problem pasting the JSON into a spoiler, so I am making it available for download. Right click and Save as, or just click the link and copy the entire page and paste to PB. See video link at top of this post for a tutorial. ***I wasn't able to get rid of the graphics glitch entirely, but I significantly reduced the shift. Now, it's a minor annoyance instead of a massive pain. ➡️ New Industry HUD.⬅️
  13. Fabrication Incorporated is recruiting any and all members. We are a new organization just getting off the ground, read lots of upward potential for you, and are focusing on manufacturing and production aspects of the game. We will work with you to optimize your skills so you can focus on the specific industries you like. A fully functional factory is already up and running and looking to help you get moving down the path to production. Please respond with a direct message, in game to Sarcinthos, or on this post if you would like to join. We look forward to building with you. Feel free to post here, send me a message, drop a line in game, or hop into the discord channel (https://discord.gg/VSvMYn9) I look forward to speaking with you.
  14. Entities will become a problem in this game, I am not talking about derelict ships, I am talking about factories, refineries, as the game progress and more things are added another Machine Factory will be needed, a new ore will mean another Refinery. Each container is limited to 9 links, and as you build out it is quickly found that it becomes increasingly more difficult to consolidate things if not impossible. So as the Organizations grow the need for larger Refinery/Factory Bases will become a thing, the amount of links needed will increase exponentially and all of this causes stress on the server(s) which is already maintaining a gargantuan flow of data of terrain changes. I purpose that there are several options to consider to reduce the amount of entities/links that are needed to maintain a function operation. #1 Introduce levels of the industry machines being used already that are capable of running multiple recipes at the same time (even if it is the same recipe do not reduce the time it takes to make things) - Example - Refinery (acts as it does) - Uncommon Refinery(the ability to run 2 recipes) - Advanced Refinery (The ability to run 3 Recipes) - furthermore it would be my suggestion that the previous entity be used in the proceeding entity making it more likely for people to pick up their old machines and repurpose them. This solves two issues #1 it reduces base footprints that are needed and #2 it reduces the amount of links that the server must keep track off. This would take a full 25 Refinery base and reduce it from 25 to 9 Refineries. This also means that the links go from 50 to 18. a significant reduction. #2 Change the basics of the Transfer Node, Moving things from one crate to another is great except that your just adding links and entities, instead why not make different tiers of Transfer nodes and allow them to act like White/Black List. This has the potential to significantly reduce the amount of links in exchange for 2. #2-1 Another potential change to the Transfer Node would to be to make it a "Upgrade" to containers, making so each type of Container can accept a certain amount of "Upgrades" xs = 0 S = 2 M = 4 L = 6 and simply allow the transfer node after instillation to increase the number of links the container has IE a L with 6 transfer nodes would have 15 Links. #3. allow the Lua to Change recipes this would present more complicated coding efforts but in the end would reduce the amount of links and machines needed to run a production facility. (Not sure if people would use it but it would reduce the links) #4. On the note of planetary terrain changes, this will become one of the largest issues the servers will face, having played multiple games with the ability to change all of the terrain as I see fit this game provides the ability to do it quickly and on a large scale. With that in mind people have referred to Alioth with the following "Alioth looks like a spaghetti monster underground" not really surprising here. Now I wouldn't take away the ability to alter the terrain and dig, but mining may need a review some of the ideas I have heard are. #4-1 triangulation beacons and Drones. you would find a metal, drop a beacon go x distance in a direction and the radar would show you getting closer and when you start getting away from it you would drop another then find the other directions and each beacon would get you closer to the ore, then you would deploy a drone as you said that would "dig" down and start mining the ore. The idea would be it would take just as much time to do it by hand and the ore would be put into a "Drone Container" even add skills to increase the range so if the ore is too far down you would need more skill to get it. #4-2 Weekly Tremors that slowly restore underground tunnels to their original state (minus the ores of course) #4-2-1 a restore option on the digging tool that restores terrain to original #4-2-2 A Seismic unit that would restore a chunk to it's original state (minus the minerals) Now I understand that these ideas are not perfect and welcome open and constructive criticism. Thank you Genthro
  15. Dear ladies and gentlemen, this offer is for German speaking players only, please respect that. Hyperion - gegründet mit dem Ziel ein Wirtschafts-Imperium aufzubauen, dessen Name, Produkte und Entwicklungen auch in den entlegenen Winkeln des Dual Universe bekannt sind. Als Teil starker Allianzen bietet Hyperion den Rahmen, um in Sicherheit und mit Rückhalt Neues zu kreieren und wirtschaftlich zu handeln. Die derzeit größte und aktivste deutschsprachige Community sammelt, erforscht und baut bereits heute - gemeinsam - Großes. Werde auch du Teil dieser Gemeinschaft und lerne uns kennen: ÜBER UNS Hyperion bietet euch das größte deutschsprachige Netzwerk in Dual Universe von Handel, Missionen, Kopfgeldjagd bis zu Rettungsmissionen. Mit der Mitgliedschaft bei Hyperion erhältst du Zugang zu allen Einrichtungen von Hyperion, ein eigenes vQuanta Konto, Lehrgänge mit Betreuung und vieles mehr! WAS IST UNSER ZIEL? Mittelfristig möchten wir gemeinsam eine Heimat aufbauen, um weitere, spannende Projekte voranzutreiben. In mehreren Teams aufgeteilt, realisieren wir Raumschiffe, Stadtkonstrukte und diverse, andere Bauprojekte. Die Möglichkeiten für andere Geschäftszweige sind schier grenzenlos und somit liegt es auch an Dir, welchen Weg du beschreiten wirst. WAS BIETEN WIR? Eine freundliche Gemeinschaft deutschsprachiger Spieler und den Zugang zum Hyperion Netzwerk. Erhalte die Möglichkeit an großen und spannenden Projekten teilzunehmen. Hol dir Aufträge vom schwarzen Brett oder nutze unseren eigenen Markt. Bei uns kann sich jeder frei entfalten und seiner Kreativität freien Lauf lassen, solange es dem Wohl der Gemeinschaft nicht schadet und die Gesetze/Richtlinien von Hyperion, sowie auch der Ascendancy eingehalten werden. Des Weiteren bieten wir Sicherheit und Territorium durch die Ascendancy. Dies ist die größte Allianz im Spiel. WAS SUCHEN WIR? Jeder deutschsprachige Spieler von Dual Universe der keine Augenklappe trägt und sich Pirat schimpfen lässt ist bei uns willkommen. Wir fordern lediglich eine geistige Reife und die Einhaltung einiger Regeln. Solltest du bei der Hyperion Corporation mitmachen wollen, dann solltest du vor allem teamfähig sein. Ein gutes Betriebsklima ist uns sehr wichtig. Wir haben uns außerdem für ein Mindestaufnahmealter von 16 Jahren entschieden. WAS MUSS ICH TUN, UM BEIZUTRETEN? Du kannst dich förmlich auf unserer Homepage bei uns bewerben oder besuche uns auf unserem Discord und schreib uns persönlich! Dort kannst du uns weitere Fragen stellen, gerne auch im Voice. Wir freuen uns auf dich!
  16. Hello there~! So I am quite new and have just finished making a tier 1 ore refinery, and it works great! The only thing that irks me is the obscene amount of byproducts (pure oxygen and hydrogen) produced by the refinery. It would be nice if there was an option in the refinery to either store them as is in the output container, vent them to atmosphere, or store them in a second container. Even another element that would automagically separate the ore from the byproducts would be awesome! Any thoughts?
  17. With Beta now out for several weeks, I have been inundated with requests about my simple way to plan factory production lines, that I had shown off during the games Alpha. Needless to say, since the Beta release, I have been hard at work as a Community Helper and also as the Super Legate of my Guild. But alas, I have finally found some free time to sit down and share a way to make the Industry designing of DU go from Hellish to Simple! First off: Firstly I just want to say that this method I will be sharing does NOT replace building calculators, but instead works in tangent with them. A crafting calculator may well tell you all the numbers you need, but it doesn't help organise it all. That is where this will come in to play. Also it is important that I credit Juvenious, who initially inspired me to make this and showcase it off in Alpha, which garnered more attention than I ever thought possible, and would like to thank him for his encouragement and help in laying out the ground work. Be sure to visit his Discord *HERE* where he is collecting / making up further standards to help simplify tasks. So what is it? The idea was to create a unique set of shapes, that represent one of the industrial factory units in the game, whilst keeping them simple, elegant and familiar in some way to their related task. Then they are placed into a Legend, something that shows you their representation, along with other information as how to interpret the diagrams fully and easily. In essence, we get this, the SL Factory Standard Legend: As you can see, a lot of the shapes will either look like a basic silhouette of the industry unit they represent or have some other relation to their purpose. The colour coding is also a massive addition to helping keep things simple, as it then allows you to categorise the industrial units together, helping you keep track of the production line in game, with the colours & their order chosen to mimic that of popular MMO games item grades. * Please note: The Tier system for the Standard is different to that of the one shown in game. Simply put, the differences are: - In DU, the level of components and subcomponents is broken down into: Intermediary -> Complex -> Functional -> Exceptional. With there being Basic, Uncommon, Advanced, Rare & Exotic tiers. - In the Standard, it is broken down simply by what the requirements are of the component. i.e. Al-Fe Alloy would be Tier 1, as it requires just Pure to make, which is Tier 0. A Warp Cell would be Tier 5, as the highest tier subcomponent needed to make them, is a Tier 4. Basic, Uncommon etc can be seen as a Grade of item, but does not hold any weight in the Legend or diagrams. This is all very well, but how can I get it? So to get started, you will want to head over to https://diagrams.net which is completely free and does not need an account. All your documents are saved in real time, to your Google Drive. The other thing you will need is a copy of the Standard Legend I have created. Luckily, I can easily share this with you on here through an XML file that can be imported into the website, allowing you full access to all the shapes and their formatting that I use. The Legend has gone under several updates already and may change to improve functionality so do keep checking back. SL Standard 1.5.xml * There is currently an issue with downloading attachments on Forums. You can PM me or visit: Novean Institute of Standards discord Planet DU To upload the XML file, you will want to follow this image below: (Please note: Select Device if you downloaded the XML file) This is all great, but how do you use it, exactly? Once you have the XML file uploaded, a blank page waiting for you to start populating, the next thing you're going to want to do is start putting down the relevant icons needed for each individual, unique blueprint that is required, and group them into the Tier colouring system. Once this is done, simply link the icons together, to show where they need to feed into. This may sound simple... But it could still be absolutely hell, with a plate of spaghetti in the middle. So here's an example: So as you can see above, this is how anyone without talents would want to make TCUs for themselves. For individuals, you could simply remove one of the Assembly Line M units and half the numbers to be able to make 1 TCU for your personal endeavours. There are some simple, but profound guidelines I follow when making diagrams which I can share with you. These are: 1) Never cross over any lines. If you find yourself boxed in, put the supply in later on, with the containers name for reference to the source. i.e. "Tier 1C" 2) Ensure that your lines always feed from left to right. This will stop any confusion in what is feeding into where. An exception can be seen in the image above, where a feed is coming from Tier 3A, up and looping into the Uncommon Power Transformer, which is fine as the only other connections its joining onto are from other containers, which a container cannot feed into another container without the help of a transfer unit. And we can see there is no transfer unit on the diagram. 3) Always name your containers and keep track of how many links they need to output to. If you find you are over the limit of 10 links out, look into either splitting up your base production to feed into a 2nd container, use a transfer unit for a 2nd container and/or increase your talents to reduce the build times, resulting in needing less industry units for efficiency. So? What are you waiting for? Get drawing! Practice makes perfect, after all And speaking of such, if you have any feedback or issues with this post, the XML file itself or have any other concerns or questions, please post them here without reservation! -Soulinks
  18. Aiwhisper

    Hub chaining

    Currently the input/ output for all containers of every type is 10. This can be very limiting for larger builds. So my idea is not to change these limits but instead use hubs as a means of adding more links. as of now the current setup lets you like 10 containers to a hub and the hub provides the 10in/out like a normal container. my idea would change it so that you could you 1 in And out to link to another hub leaving you with 9 in/out on each hub. This would have the benefit of giving your container systems more in/out ports as well as provide cargo access points, as a small screen, around your ship/station. This would have an unlimited amount of in/out And storage though as you could just link more and more hubs and containers. This could also be limited by making a new “master hub” item which could act as a hub for hubs And not use the normal links and be limited to 10 hubs just like how hubs are limited to 10 containers. An item like this would mean you could link 100 containers and have 100 in/out ports Max on one system.
  19. To make people want to take risks and not stay on the moon sanctuary I propose that all industries placed on the moon sanctuary have a crafting time divided by 2 or even more.
  20. Mineco

    Industry Hub

    My suggestion would be to make an industry hub that allows for industries to be connected, controlled and monitored from a common terminal and possibly make their input/output through.
  21. Hello Novaquark, I apologise for the pompous sounding post I'm writing, I'm not normally so self-obsessed, but I feel the need to get this across as it's a CRUCIAL QoL thing for DU industry people. In my job (I am a planner for electronics manufacturing, a simple low echelon MRP monkey) we work with the obvious concept of demand. DU is no different. We create works orders (DU "item in queue") for end products that in turn generate demand for sub-assemblies, which in turn generate demand for further sub-assemblies all the way down to a base material that doesn't need to be manufactured. So we have a list of works orders all generating demand for the item provided by the next level down the chain. So far, so obvious. What the production screens in DU fail to do, however, is demonstrate the total amount of demand, currently generated by all loaded works orders in the production queue, for any given sub-assembly or material. E.G., If I have multiple queued works orders that all demand varying quantities of Basic Pipe, I don't know what my total demand for Basic Pipe is without doing a lot of messing about, flicking between screens and doing arithmetic. It isn't immediately obvious how many Basic Pipes I need to make. So, what we need to see is, when we click on a material in those production screens (and ye Gods, the "Ingredients" in the list on the Assembly Lines need to be clickable), somewhere on the screen should be a short list of the jobs, with quantities, that are both generating demand for Basic Pipe or whatever material you are looking at, AND what Basic Pipe production orders we have on as well. This takes the simple format of a bank statement (I'm sure jobs in the queue have a unique job number that you can display): Basic Pipe Total Stock: 24 Job No. +/- Qty Running Total 12345 - 13 11 13345 - 6 5 12211 + 4 9 16611 - 14 -5 16520 + 8 3 This table, nested somewhere on the Basic Pipe production order creation screen, demonstrates to me immediately that I must either move job 16520 and place it before job 16611 in the queue, or create another job for at least 5 units and place it before job 16611 in the queue, or face a stoppage. As a job is completed, it disappears from the list and the "Total Stock" field is updated with its new quantity. In current implementation, this information is not shown. This only leaves the question of what/where Basic Pipe works orders should be included on the list? I would probably go with works orders that are on machines/nanocrafter that have inputs that come from the same container. So if I'm looking at a Basic Pipe works order creation screen for a machine that outputs to Box A, all machines that also output Basic Pipe to Box A, and all machines with orders in their queue that demand Basic Pipe and that pull from Box A should be on the list, displaying their demand/output. If we are going to have numerous sub-assemblies using various production cells, this sort of information summarised this way is absolutely crucial. Without it, we're lost in a sea of demand that we cannot easily describe and translate into works orders. Please, for the love of God, implement . I don't know if this forum has an upvoting system, but if you're a DU industrialist, please upvote and bump, you'll thank me.
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  23. Basically I can't find the option in the RDMS that I can use to prevent members from unclaiming items. It seems like every org member can unclaim items.. How do I prevent that? Can I create a sub-org that I claim the items for? And then how do I allow industry to work with these claimed items? (I know about the difference between unclaiming and stealing.. Stealing would atleast result in a notification) Thanks in advance.
  24. Sorry in advance for the text-wall., but I wanted to think this out as much as I could I know that the devs have said they never want to automate the mining process, which is respectable, based on their intentions of making sure new players have a steady income source. However, the idea that large organizations in a futuristic scifi game can only mine by hand is a little silly. The idea of fleets of battleships being built by sending out dozens of people to scour the planet with a dinky scanner and a pickaxe is pretty un-futuristic. So, in lieu of automated factories or mining ships, I think that we should have a more advanced version of mining in space. In my idea, this would take the form of asteroids. Instead of the standard "mine asteroids, fill cargo, go home" formula, I think DU should actually require us to break down entire asteroids in an industrial fashion. My idea, in concept, would be to have asteroids full of materials. In my head it would be only one material per asteroid, and they would be much less common than standard worthless asteroids, that way you would still need to search for whatever you need the slow way. You would then need to tow the asteroid to a static construct with the appropriate elements for breaking it down, and over time it will be broken down and provide the materials it is made of. I think this could be a decent compromise. Over-automation and making it overpowered could be prevented or mitigated with certain restrictions and penalties. Some possible examples; the towing device can only be activated on a ship of a certain size, the towing device cannot be on the same construct as any weapons, the towing device requires a certain number of crew members to operate, using the towing device limits the ships speed, etc. Things like this would prevent over automation, force teamwork by requiring separate defense escorts, and providing considerable risk to the towing ship in that it can be attacked en route to the base if it doesnt have an escort. Overpowering would also be mitigated by restricting the element that breaks down the asteroid to a static construct only, and possibly preventing it from being reclaimed or providing a steep penalty to move it. There could also be a limit on the number of refineries per organization. That way organizations would be forced to venture further and further out to find resources, preventing them from turtling in a corner of space forever and hoarding resources (*cough* goonswarm). This would provide a faster method of gathering resources, but would require an organized group of people to do, and over gathering would quickly strip an area of space since resources dont respawn, so resource production would slow down over time because of the longer travel times needed. However, it would effectively be an infinite resource, since space is big, so theres little chance of any group having a monopoly. Let me know what you think, and be gentle. I know the technical requirements would be a challenge, but this is an idea thread, not an official drawing board
  25. This post is about the experience of crafting using industry in the early game. I am fully aware that as you build resources these concerns decrease, but .. this still leaves us with a less than ideal early game experience - which is the issue I want to address. So, early game, you're building things in your nanocrafter and you're starting your industry... You build the parts for the Assembly Line S (skipping the XS as it's useless initially), then you build the parts and Assembly Line M, then you build the parts and a Smelter, Refiner, Electronics, Metalwork, 3D Printer, and containers galore. The progression here is fine, the issue is that because you have to use the nanocrafter to produce the parts required (typically into a linked container as input to the assemblies), and because you have to manually alter the recipe each time, you're essentially tied to your base, for long periods of time, doing "nothing". Sure, you could be building the base .. but.. typically you've used all your starting honeycomb and don't want to make more, yet, as it would slow down your industry creation. Sure, you could run off and mine.. but then your nanocrafter queue will put the current output in the wrong place (because you leave the linked container range) and then it will stall (as all the inputs are in the linked container, now out of range). So.. instead, you sit with your thumb up your .. doing "nothing". This is a "not much fun" gameplay loop which I would like to see improved. I think the solution is to add queues to industry units. What I mean by this is that we ought to be able to queue a "make X of Y" request, just as we can in the nanocrafter. I am not suggesting we queue "make infinite" or "maintain X, and Y, and Z" or anything like that. So, industry units can either be processing a queue of make X of Y OR doing one of those other things, not both. So, lets start by listing and attempting to refute the common objections to this: 1) this would make large factories redundant If you can build everything with 1 electronics, why have more? Because one electronics can only do 1 thing at a time. So, if you want to produce something with 5 ingredients, you would have to wait for one electronics to produce all the input, one ingredient at a time, and your "factory" (of 2 units) would be super slow and inefficient. Given this, you still need large factories, especially once you reach the scale where you want to "maintain" a range of input ingredients to keep your factory production constant and efficient. Queues have to be queued manually, so they're not appropriate for a fully automated factory. In short, queues won't change how large factories operate, so they will still exist just as they do today. 2) this would reduce the "value" / "cost" of items in the game, and "ruin" the market. If things are too easy to build, who would buy items from the market. Yes, this will make it easier for new players to build the smallest, cheapest, T1 elements in the game. But, doing so will still take them quite some time (see point #1 above) even if they have a few industry units, so they might prefer to buy these items some of the time. For higher tier items, with more ingredients and longer build times for those ingredients and the item itself.. those players are going to have an ever better reason to buy the items instead of making them. Another way to look at this; even late game players might prefer to simply buy, in bulk, lower tier items. If crafting these is easier for new players, then they may even be selling on the market. This is actually a net positive for the market, even if the price per unit is lower, there will be more items being bought and sold. In short, queues may have an effect on the low end of the market (positive and negative), but very little effect on T2 and above. 3) Any other objections? If you have any, please let me know, keeping in mind the points made in response to objections #1 and #2 above (as I can think of some potential objections which these points refute). This is not just my complaint I am not the only person who has issue with this gameplay loop. I recently watched this video where they express the same concerns about crafting speed and having to sit round doing "nothing".
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