MelTuc
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NQ Don’t take my stuff in order to turn me into a new player (WIPE), let me teach new players how to become like me (NO WIPE) and we all win. Here is one point I think your missing NQ. If you do WIPE, so be it I a screwed but what do you think I would do next. Well let me tell you.
I am not building a factory, or a base no I would first connect with the top builders that I know personally damn near all of them, and I would spend every waking moment mining and doing missions for them day in and day out I would work solely to enrich them. Why because they are who will give me the tools that I need to be successfully. They did it before and they will do it again.
And I am not talking about a Hand out, well Loaded will say I haggle him to death but other than that I worked for everything I have but not with out there help. I remember when Blightbright(Zoe) replace my ship TWICE (80Mill Ship) and still worked with me to become a better pilot. I still suck by the way.
So if that means I spend hours mining for Czarman, BlindingBright, Loaded, TicTaq, Leo Cora, Woka, MasterDragon, Tobi-wan. I don’t care. These people just to name a few made me who I am and I know if there here after the WIPE.
They will be the key to my success again. So while NEW PLAYERS are running around, making newbie mistakes wasting time doing things I know are useless to do early game (like building your own factory) I will use my alliances, contacts and friends to become bigger and better than they will ever be.
I get choked up privately as I have know many of the above names in game for over 2 years we grew together and we will do it again.
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2 hours ago, Cergorach said:
Missions, doing it with 10 alts means all the money is for you, doing with 10 friends you split the money.
As for time... The flying you can do AFK, if you're not doing it that way, you're doing it wrong! The time is in the logging in the 10 characters.
Missions:
Fuel up ship
Make sure everyone is onboard (they should already be there)
Fly to pickup point (on autopilot)
Pickup cargo
Log in 10 alts doing the same (takes a while)
Fly your route to delivery point, slowboat style, outside of the pipes (on autopilot)
Land on autopilot.
Deliver package
Log in 10 alts doing the same (takes a while)
Transfer profit to main
Repeat
I don't know how many trips you make per day, but if it's one, you're doing something wrong if it takes you hours. Unless you add in the actual transit time you're running on autopilot... If you do this 4x a day, it might take a combined ~2 hours/day, but it would make you ~250M/day, if you run a more complex route it might take you ~2.5 hours/day and make ~375M/day. You could make more per day running multiple PCs/clients, but then it quickly is going to take up a lot more time flying around with warp shuttles handling all the pickup/delivery.
I've been flying around for months doing 3-4 trips a day, doing 4 missions each time. 4 days a week, making 300M-400M/week. I was working up the infrastructure to up that to 1B+ with the same crew (more complex route and an additional PC). But the more talk about launch and wipe, the less motivated I became to do something with it...
You 100% NAILED, I over simplified the process in my original post but you my Friend nailed it to a core. With that said know people can see its not this idea that Missions are this endless CASH COW. It freaking takes work, time, effort and planning. And It is a legit game mechanic I must stress that. But you put the details where I blew over them bring more light to the entire process.
One point I have to add Legion has killed me at least 5 times before I figured out a route using the new Routine feature of the Arch HUB Autopilot. This is the mission I run every day all day rinse and repeat. Just under 95mill per trip with about 3 or 4 trips a day based on how busy I am at work. I an sure I am not the best or have the best approach but its not a secret, hack or exploit I learned what to do and how to do it by talking to OLDER player (couch couch) who show me how to do it. Even just reading your post I learn something and I am sure there are others that are reading this forum right now taking notes on that single post and will change there game play in the next few hours. That is what VET player bring to the table Knowledge and Experience. Thank you for show that sharing knowledge is the key to equality NOT WEALTH Redistribution. What the saying Fish for a man he will eat for a day (WIPE) teach a man how to fish he will eat for a lifetime (NO WIPE)
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Oh and NQ while your at it give me a One Click Core Destruction Functionality, Where I can walk up to a CORE of any size that I own Dynamic or Static and have it revert back to elements and voxel into my link container. A cherry on top would be the have it return the associated blueprint as well if used. Now that would be exciting.
- admsve, DecoyGoatBomb, Kurosawa and 3 others
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NQ give me Cross Core Container Transferring, Fuel Tank Hubs, Hub to Hub Linking, Increase Hub Container link limit to 20 or more, make transfer units able to handle more than one type of item seems like a good time since your removing schematics allow one transfer unit to transfer multiple types to multiple containers and oh increase that damn 10 link limits. Just my personal wish list, do this and you can take everything I have as I would embrace the change to play DU again from scratch with changes like these simply because they would force me to change how I previously played the game. But if you give me the same game, same tools, same mechanics then I want to play it the same way I have for the previously 2 years.
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Also are we forgetting DU will not be the only MMO that launches or release this year so that Magical HORDE of New Player will have more options more choices it's not just DU and nothing else. It can DU after release compete with it's PEER's. (Peers meaning other MMO games that launch during this same time frame)
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Many people speak of Missions as if there quick and easy far from the truth. There not, remember warp is disabled so it still takes hours on top of hours to complete these missions which I will remind you are Legit Game Mechanics, not an exploit just because I can do it with 10 Alts someone one else could do the same with 10 Friends. Mission were used to get rich just like tri scanners were used to scan three tiles at once. Just because you do something in MASS or in excess does not mean you were wrong.
I have completed many mission with 10 Alts and make good quanta but it takes HOURS man. So I don't see how I am a bad guy because I found a way to do it more efficiently . Now granted that is not my only way of making money. I have been known to go out with a Space Only Hauler and Complete empty a Asteroid, just like I use to empty Mega Nodes spending hours on hours brain dead mining for days some times. Come back to base only after filling my ship.So am I wrong because I am willing to trade TIME and Effort for money.
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26 minutes ago, Zeddrick said:
....um... you misquoted me there. I certainly didn't say anything of the sort. Perhaps you edited my reply badly. Please edit it so it doesn't look like I said "So your guys tears only represent 5%." when actually it was J0hnyB who said that and I just replied to it.
If you're going to call someone an idiot, it's just common sense to make sure you direct that at the correct person right?
You are correct, I wanted to call the other dude an idiot not you my bad
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I removed the comment, my bad
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3 hours ago, Zarcata said:
The professional players will regain their wealth and opportunities very quickly because they have knowledge and experience and can prepare very well. So it means there is no fair equality in a wipe, because every minute, every hour and every day the gap becomes very big again between the regular player and the new player. So it's just a matter of time until new players are in the same situation as they are now.
That's a good point the WIPE and the so called instant equality will last for about two weeks. After that we are back to the races where the RICH get RICHER the poor stay poor. This game is just like real life its not WHAT you know its WHO you know.
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3 minutes ago, Megabosslord said:
(1:30) the reason for a wipe would be "(there is) something that we need to fix and there is no other but to wipe to fix it. I don't see anything like that coming... it's something that would happen if we really had no choice..."
(4:45) "we're going to do everything we can so that we don't have to go through a wipe again"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOp9nDzkxpc
(58:26) "there would be a gold rush to get back to whatever you wanted. That's actually not a good idea. We decided that we would rather not do that. There has already been a lot of investment made by a lot of people to terraform very very substantial parts of the planets... It would be a very bad thing to say 'sorry guys, restart from scratch.'" And that was just on a terrain wipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai3Kk37ntgg
(15:53) "Everything you build is forever"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD00-V_LKog
(31:58) "Whatever you do after beta starts is going to stay in one way or another... You will get what we call for the moment 'magic blueprints'... blueprints with everything included in it so you will be able to respawn the things as soon as we restart the server. So we don't like to call it 'wipe'... The key thing is the beta is really the start... You can start to invest yourself in the game. We guarantee that you're not going to be losing everything at some point... the universe is blank again, and you have to start from scratch."
Facts
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35 minutes ago, Evoson said:
I got 58,807,100 talent points I did a lot into mining and industry .
Understood, and I can respect that I was just thinking to get back to 60+ million in talent points start over again means I will not be where I am today unit what 2024 lol 2 years is 2 years so starting over means 2024 before I am as talented as I am now and I still haven't even touch allot of the other skill trees.
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2 hours ago, AdmiralYolomoto said:
Just want to remind to everyone that any game's value is an entertainment you have while you play the game. You did something - you got entertained, you achieved something - you entertained. Wipe does not change that entertainment gain.
The idea that I should just be happy I was able to play the game and "Was Entertained" sounds ridiculous.
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6 minutes ago, Yoarii said:
#donttouchmytalentpoints
Damn Right!
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You're so funny NQ
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19 minutes ago, Walter said:26 minutes ago, AbnRanger375 said:
FULL WIPE............PLEASE!!!!!
And I love my space station that me and about 10 other players help me build over the last year or so No I don't take the word FULL WIPE so lightly some of US actually have an attachment to the things we have build, purchased or created either alone or with friends. Not to get on you but Wipe is not just a WORD to some of us. Its the lost a little deeper than maybe some can see.
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16 minutes ago, AbnRanger375 said:
FULL WIPE............PLEASE!!!!!
And I am not a Builder with Valuable Blueprints or a Massive Industry with Mega Factories, I couldn't build a ship to save my life and also solicited help from others to build my factories, but I am one hell of a miner, so WIPE means something to me.
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16 minutes ago, RugesV said:
You think NQ actually reads these forums?
I am sure at some level the forums are read or reviewed, the better point would not if they read them but if they care. Even if they NQ reads them just out of curiosity while doing the evil genius laugh at us. I do believe they are read. Now are they used to influence anything or change course direction that another question all together.
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It's so funny to see you continuing to ask for our support to TEST your game for free only to screw us in the end.
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What I don't understand is unless NQ only plans are only for the current month each month, didn't they know this was on the table two months ago when they had all of us running around delete constructs and begging for core slot donations and just making life HELL. Wasn't it just two months ago when NQ said you will be able to regain all your constructions if you just use talent points and in 30days you be good? Didn't they know in 60 days they would be talking about wiping any and everything. So I ask you what the damn core cap drill. Why put us threw that unwanted stress if the end result is where we are today, talking about a WIPE.
I should have listen when people were warning that the CORE Cap was a Soft Wipe and all Soft Wipes are Followed by Hard Wipes, I didn't believe them because I thought the CORE Cap was the reason we were trying to prevent a wipe. But never the less I was fooled. NQ you knew this was coming but yet you choose to still chose to put us threw needless stress just to SAVE on that Month's Server Cost.
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12 hours ago, Evoson said:
Full wipe would be good . Just give beta players like 5 million talent points
Clearly you have not been playing the game long if you think I will accept 5 Million Skill Points compared to the amount I have accumulated over the past 2 years that not even a drop in the bucket. This sounds ridiculous and totally unacceptable.
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4 hours ago, Muhadmananda said:
i personally stopped playing when this wipe discussion appeared and didn't log on since...waiting what you decide to see what i will do with it.
Yea, I have not logged in either because as soon as I did I looked around and say What am I doing, after playing everyday all day (no lifer) 8-10hr a day or more for almost 2 years and no to suddenly stop is very disappointing.
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42 minutes ago, Cyanyde said:
We should be compensated, let us at least keep our quanta, talent points, and some bp's. I think we deserve that at least. You can't just erase our last few years of handwork, designs, and talents.
I agree, let me keep my Blueprints, Talents, Quanta and at least I can start again without starting on a empty tile hand mining. Remember some talent points like RECENTLY take months to complete couch "Mining Units", "Core Slots" to take that away and say ok let's start you back a ground zero is a cost to much to bear.
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Seems like we are back to the same underlying topic of "How can I keep other people from becoming too RICH" I have an idea how about just work as hard as they do....I am not talking about hacks, or exploits but any Legit Game Mechanic shall be used to the fullest without the approval from other players who might not like the way I play the Legit Game Mechanic. Capping other players growth only makes sense until you yourself are the one at the top than theses taxes, limitation and progress punishment tactics your thinking of will not be so appealing.