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Some stunning arrogance in this thread.
 
Unless the game gets some sensible balance of things to do for all parties it will not last. No reason for it to do so.
 
Forcing people to PvP will not happen. EVE tried this for years and it never happened. People will PvP when they want, where they want and how they want. If they can't do that they will play something else. The rule has always been "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" - so until PvE players feel they are in that position to their satisfaction none of them will PvP even for rare rewards. As PvE players are generally more risk averse with respect to combat the "not afford to lose" amount will likely be significantly higher than PvP players.
 
The PvP vs PvE thing is as it has always been and is unlikely to change. The one thing I have never understood is why PvP players are just not content with fighting each other and leaving those who don't give a crap alone.
 

The only thing I don't like about schematics is managing them. Can I just have one central schematic bank on a core that all the machines can access?

Some stunning arrogance in this thread.
 
Unless the game gets some sensible balance of things to do for all parties it will not last. No reason for it to do so.
 
Forcing people to PvP will not happen. EVE tried this for years and it never happened. People will PvP when they want, where they want and how they want. If they can't do that they will play something else. The rule has always been "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" - so until PvE players feel they are in that position to their satisfaction none of them will PvP even for rare rewards. As PvE players are generally more risk averse with respect to combat the "not afford to lose" amount will likely be significantly higher than PvP players.
 
The PvP vs PvE thing is as it has always been and is unlikely to change. The one thing I have never understood is why PvP players are just not content with fighting each other and leaving those who don't give a crap alone.
 

I just skimmed the last two pages of this thread so someone else may have said this ?.  But i don't think NQ's intention is to limit anyone to any one thing.  This is just a side-effect of them adding parts of the game one at a time.
 
Planetary Mining was the only way to make Quanta, or get ore, for quite a while, and everyone was doing it, no matter how much they hated mining.  So a huge amount of the ore was mined a lot faster then i think NQ expected.
 
All these systems are supposed to work together to achieve a balance.
 
It's like NQ's trying to build a stool, one leg at a time, while we're all sitting on it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

100% No - they are fine. I believe people should have to make decisions as t where they put their money.

This and this...

Also, voxel reactor is just a stupid, over-thought name for what is essentially a mould.  We don't call them Jelly reactors or lollipop reactors, ffs...
OK. mini rant over.

Every voxel has 8 corners and voxelmancy is just the act of moving those.

This is done by placing different shapes next to the voxel in question as the corners of neighbouring voxels overlap, one forces the position of another (either way possible)

What I would love is just a precision mode for the individual corners. Mark one of the 8 corners, and move it around, within the already existing parameters using up/down etc keys. 
No additional server strain, not bigger filesize, no downsides, just precision and no need to dance around to just get the shape you want directly.
What players call a "reactor" is nothing but voxels with their corners already "pre-moved" for you,

I just want to move them directly.

Waiting on a few of the more significant updates before climbing back in - no I don't consider asteroids significant for me at this point in time. Automated mining is my next toe-dipping time. Still subbed, so not like I am not skilling, but not actively playing much.

My only thing with this is that we are barely at 'start game' in many ways. I agree end game should be thought about but we seem so far away from that.

Sometimes, sometimes not 
 
This - fortunate enough to have a job where I don't have to care. I also tend to get hundreds of hours out of games I like so I don't actually buy that often either.

I think you are missing the point - Voxelmancy is a daft thing - it takes something that should be straight forward for a player and makes it a pain in the ass. Even with libraries it is still a pain in the ass. There is just no reason why it has to be a thing.

Can we please, pretty please, just be able to pull/push vertex points? This is all voxelmancy really does but in a painful and round about way and it is just plain annoying.
 
I feel like I am back in Landmark and I don't want to be there again.

This has been requested for years. Its one of the hightest voted suggestions: https://upvote.dualuniverse.game/suggestions/122830/voxel-vertices-editor

I don't - I just want to remove the ridiculous and laborious art of creating blocks to manipulate other blocks instead of providing a tool that would tweak the vertices as needed. Weirdly this might even open up the building of nicer things to more people.

Can we please, pretty please, just be able to pull/push vertex points? This is all voxelmancy really does but in a painful and round about way and it is just plain annoying.
 
I feel like I am back in Landmark and I don't want to be there again.

Absolutely please. Voxelmancy is like when coming home, throwing my keys in the letter box, climbing up to the roof, enter through the chimney down into the cellar. then go up to my flat, realize I left my keys in the letterbox, kick down the front door, rip out the letterbox, get my keys and then realize I m in the wrong house.

Can we please, pretty please, just be able to pull/push vertex points? This is all voxelmancy really does but in a painful and round about way and it is just plain annoying.
 
I feel like I am back in Landmark and I don't want to be there again.

Can we please, pretty please, just be able to pull/push vertex points? This is all voxelmancy really does but in a painful and round about way and it is just plain annoying.
 
I feel like I am back in Landmark and I don't want to be there again.

My sugestion is very simple to implement and solves all your voxel problems:
 
Make copy & paste of voxels to be a text format(yml, json or xml) in windows paste memory. 
 
That way you could:
Copy your in-game voxels and paste them on a notepad file. 
With that file you could:
save for later use
store it in git
share it with friends
Open in a community made 3d editor.

Hey everybody,

We've been getting increasing reports of non-game-related scams through the DU Discord server. While in-game scamming is permissible (here's looking at you people putting requests and buying ore at 0.1h/L) these types of scams are not. 

The two we’re seeing most frequently on the DU Discord and Discord in general are along the lines of:

"I accidentally reported your Steam account"
"Straight to the point--NO BS" with Wall Street War

At almost 2000 words, I’m told this is a fairly lengthy post so I’ll split it into two parts. The first will have to do with what these scams are, and how to deal with them. The second part will feature some of my own tips and advice to improve your account security and general account security on the web. Part One, Part Two.
 
TLDR at the end for those of you that need it. Let’s get to it!
 
 
Part One: The Scams

The steam account scam is the most concerning so I'll touch on this first.

It starts with someone asking if a Steam profile is yours, usually because you have your Steam profile linked in your Discord profile. If you confirm it, then they'll say that they accidentally reported your Steam profile for illegal purchases and that your account will be suspended if no action is taken. They'll then try and connect you with a "support agent" to resolve the issue and clear your name. Seems innocent enough, but hang with me.

The "support agent" will ask you to log out of your account everywhere so they can run a "validation" process that would be supposedly interrupted by a login. They’ll then ask you for your login details as a part of the verification process. This should be the first red flag.

If you have Steam Guard enabled as your 2FA option, they’ll mention that your phone should have sent you a notification just now, and to provide them with that code. This should be a second red flag and tantamount to a bat light up in the sky.

Since most of us have a purchase history associated with our account, an excuse will usually be given about the above "validation" exposing errors due to “black-market purchases with stolen accounts”. You'll be asked to purchase crypto and send it to their wallet as proof that you're the cardholder. This should be the third red flag, but by now your steam account is already compromised since you provided your login details and 2FA code.
 
With your account now up for ransom, they'll start asking for money to get it back and bring you through a whole long process to ‘unlock’ or ‘unblock’ your account. A way to unscrew yourself, notice how I’m saying ‘un-’ a lot?
 
However, the end result, is always the same, "a fool and his money are soon parted." In the particular instance that was brought to our attention, the individual’s bank intervened which left them out only $270 as opposed to the $1,000 that they were being lined up for.
 
For support-related things like Steam, Amazon, DU support tickets, etc, they'll all use some form of an official means of communication. Since DU makes a prime example, all support tickets are handled on their support website. If something like an email seems suspicious even though it looks official, don't hesitate to sign into your account and handle it on their website directly, email support scams happen too!
 
Additionally, support will never ask for your login details, and you should never ever-ever-ever-ever-ever give out your 2FA codes. Never, got it? I could say that until I'm blue in the face. If they needed to, I'd bet a ham sandwich with good mustard that an authentic support person would easily bypass that since they're already an employee of the company, verified and all. That, and they would never ask you to pay them since usually you'll just be banned anyways.
 
NQ threw in this extra bit but just so things are crystal clear: No support agent of any company (especially Steam) should ask you any login details. If a support agent does, it's obviously a scam or an agent breaking security protocol. In both cases NEVER gave such information. Support agents are not supposed to ask you any login details for the simple reason that they don't need to: if they are what they're pretending they are, they have other means to access your account for technical problems or punishment topics.
 
These are malicious because these types of scams depend on our anxieties. Naturally, no one wants to be in trouble and it’s something commonly pulled on senior citizens as they’re usually an easier target since we’re still at the start of the digital age and computers weren’t something they grew up with. Have your grandparents console with other trusted persons if something seems fishy.
 
A final red flag and something I’m hesitant to get into because it involves stereotyping, but folks that pull these kinds of scams in my experience don’t often have the best English skills, and it’s pretty easy to tell that they are non-native speakers since they come from a very particular part of the world. I’m not going to spotlight any group in particular, but Steam would never ask for you to share your screen, make a crypto transaction, or inquire about your banking details. And I’m equally sure that a prince in some distant land wouldn’t transfer you a great sum of his wealth to help him with some health expenses. Yes, they have a solid grip and can hold an understandable conversation, but it’s not as fluid as more experienced speakers like with NovaQuarks support for example.
 
I’m not saying that everyone offering some form of tech support is out to get you, especially if you are aware of a real problem, tech support is an easily outsourced job and I’m sure at some point you’ve experienced robots and automated machines in these roles already. No doubt many non-native speakers have excellent skills as I'm sure many have shown on these very forums, but again my personal experience has dictated that more often than not, a weak grasp of English should serve as caution in these types of situations.
 
 
 
Finally, someone or multiple someones has been making alternate accounts, pushing a 'no bs' crypto server very aggressively. Not only does this break the unsolicited advertising policy, but you're potentially pushing away people from the idea of crypto which hurts the whole thing in general.
 
Us moderators and NQ discussed briefly boosting the server moderation level from high (server member for 10m) to maximum (verified phone linked to the account) but this was seen as too extreme. For now, if you get one of these messages, send a link to the message (‘copy message link’ in the right-click menu) and a screenshot to the mods via ModMail and we’ll take care of them. NovaQuark is attempting to work with Discord on this issue and those DM links are needed as a part of Discords investigations. Links are no longer required, scroll down a bit for further guidance.
 
When I started writing, ten separate accounts were banned, plus one more while I wrote, for their “no-bs” activity. Since then another 9 have fallen between NQ reviewing and approving this and my own goings-on getting in the way. They’re persistent, these lads, but rest assured they’re not as persistent as a dragon, or my fellow moderators on the community discord team! While I've taken a step back for some Halo in the past week, I'm looking at 11 modmails that I haven't read yet that I suspect run along similar lines... Yes, a potential 30 accounts.
 
Not much to say here since they're just pushing a discord invite and its nothing more malicious in general chat. Just letting you guys know that we’re aware of these events, along with what actions to take, so I'll leave it at that.
 
 
Update 7/22: NQ has advised me that since Discord is not taking action, that all logging on Wall Street War has ended. Please send further incidents to Discords Trust and Safety team as this falls under the Self-botting category of spam.
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000029731
 
 
 
Part Two: Security

Strong passwords, you knew this was coming right? "Blaarg I can't reeeee-member", enough with the excuses. There are plenty of solutions out there that allow you to create long, complex, and secure passwords that you don't have to remember or type in manually. In years past I used and recommended LastPass but they had to go and ruin a good thing and separate computers and mobile devices for free account holders. If you can afford their $3/month premium plan, I'd still recommend them since they're very well known and have a lot of great features, but I'm cheap so I dropped them. With the hundreds of online accounts some of us might have, my replacement is Zoho Vault. For all my uses, it has the features I require on both desktop and mobile devices in the form of autofill and password generation.
 
If sticking all your passwords in some online database sounds like a bad idea, there are also solutions for building and managing your own homebrewed vault, just be sure to stick it somewhere greedy little hands and pets can't find it. If the hamsters aren't running on their wheels, they're destroying your hardware.
 
2 Factor Authentication, if it’s an option, use it. It will take a little bit longer to log in since it’s an extra step, but it can make a lot of difference if your username and password are compromised. Is it foolproof, no. Is something better than nothing, absolutely. Setting up 2FA is easy, just find a specific app for it, scan a QR code, verify it by entering the string of numbers (usually six but I've encountered no more than nine), then once it’s confirmed, you're all set up. Now after you enter your username and password, you'll need to check the app you downloaded and enter in that string of numbers before the timer expires to fully log in.
 
While the extra security is great, it comes with some extra caveats:

An online database can be breached. The database can fail and the data become lost. Your master password can be breached or forgotten.
Your hardware can be stolen, misplaced, lost, or even destroyed. If you read this far, you get a cookie.
You can forget to transfer your 2FA app data to your new phone before deleting your old phone’s data.
 
Should any of that happen, you can be well and truly screwed, especially when you're excited about getting a new phone like I was a few years back. At least if you mess up, you know your accounts are still protected, it's just a big time kill resetting everything. Don't let that scare you though, better to be safe than sorry with your account partly out of your hands because you forgot your strong password, versus in someone elses hands entirely.
 
Above all, use common sense. It's in pretty short supply these days but I'm sure you can activate enough neurons to tell the difference between your coworker’s email that comes from a familiar email (or physical) address versus something about some guys relative in the hospital and he needs $500 for the bills and wants you to wire them money and... oh hey, is that gold? OwO
 
This isn't a defacto guide, just some easy things you can do right now to get started and have an immediate impact on your online security. There's a lot more reading and videos (even physical hardware you can purchase) out on the internet if you care to look which I would encourage you to do.
 
 
 
Again, if you get a message from anyone using either of these methods of unsolicited advertising or anything else, be it related to Dual Universe or not, please send them to us community mods via Modmail (works just like sending a DM to anyone else) and we'll handle things.
 
 
 
TLDR: Firstly, the Discord community mods are aware of the scammers going around. Send us a modmail with a screenshot and we'll handle things.
Secondly; password hygine, 2FA, if it looks sketchy it probably is.
 
That's all I wanted to say, thanks for reading.

There are (as far as I know) no politicians in this thread - but there are a number of attempts to redefine well understood terms into those typically used by politicians. I frankly blame the ignorance and outright stupidity of the listeners that this stuff is even viable.

Living in the US I can tell you the level of ignorance on social systems is quite impressive. The very fact that Bernie Sanders gets away with calling himself a Socialist is in itself proof that there is widespread ignorance on what Socialism is. The fact that you equate Communism with Socialism is more along the same line.
 
As the original post stated a location in Canada I (maybe mistakenly) assumed the poster was Canadian and maybe better educated on these things as Canadian politics are not just center right, right and extremely right which is the case in the US at present. In terms of overall political standings the Democrats for the most part barely register as a centrist party in most of what they do - center right if I am kind.
 
The US has many good things about it but still has a huge McCarthy chip on its shoulder when it comes to anything that would be considered even centrist anywhere else - still looking for commies under the bed. Still we are now talking about things like a livable wage instead of everything being business centric so maybe there is some hope on the horizon with respect to some sanity and moderation.
 
 

wow, more uneducated claptrap - it just gets better.

Living in the US I can tell you the level of ignorance on social systems is quite impressive. The very fact that Bernie Sanders gets away with calling himself a Socialist is in itself proof that there is widespread ignorance on what Socialism is. The fact that you equate Communism with Socialism is more along the same line.
 
As the original post stated a location in Canada I (maybe mistakenly) assumed the poster was Canadian and maybe better educated on these things as Canadian politics are not just center right, right and extremely right which is the case in the US at present. In terms of overall political standings the Democrats for the most part barely register as a centrist party in most of what they do - center right if I am kind.
 
The US has many good things about it but still has a huge McCarthy chip on its shoulder when it comes to anything that would be considered even centrist anywhere else - still looking for commies under the bed. Still we are now talking about things like a livable wage instead of everything being business centric so maybe there is some hope on the horizon with respect to some sanity and moderation.
 
 

Living in the US I can tell you the level of ignorance on social systems is quite impressive. The very fact that Bernie Sanders gets away with calling himself a Socialist is in itself proof that there is widespread ignorance on what Socialism is. The fact that you equate Communism with Socialism is more along the same line.
 
As the original post stated a location in Canada I (maybe mistakenly) assumed the poster was Canadian and maybe better educated on these things as Canadian politics are not just center right, right and extremely right which is the case in the US at present. In terms of overall political standings the Democrats for the most part barely register as a centrist party in most of what they do - center right if I am kind.
 
The US has many good things about it but still has a huge McCarthy chip on its shoulder when it comes to anything that would be considered even centrist anywhere else - still looking for commies under the bed. Still we are now talking about things like a livable wage instead of everything being business centric so maybe there is some hope on the horizon with respect to some sanity and moderation.