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I do a daily login for the quanta, and about once a week I fly the outside of the Alioth district ring to check out other peoples constructs. And excluding the markets I am lucky if I see maybe 10 players in total working on constructs etc. while completing the ring.

The mouse control works for normal racing, but I was talking about FPV race style flying where you need two high resolution analog sticks (4 axis control).

I fly FPV racing drones in RL, and technically it should be possible to build and fly something similar in DU. The movements would be slower, but it should be possible to do all the classic moves like power loops etc. But without proper analog joystick support, we are nowhere near having the control responses and accuracy needed for competitive flying.

Well said. There must be a well defined and detailed roadmap with achievable goals, for anyone to be able to produce effectively in teams. So until NQ knows exactly how they want to implement the game pillars in detail and the game as a whole, the devs are mostly just floundering around putting out fires. I.e. the initial R&D stages where you figure out what is possible and not before making the final design, should have been completed a long, long time ago before they entered the soft release 'beta'.

I like the suggestion blazemonger made. So if we combine it would mean that once the player is no longer able to pay the parking fee (fee goes to tile owner) for the 'abandoned' construct, the core is unclaimed so that other players can salvage it. This way we are both solving the problem and turning the cleanup into game content for other players. The solution would also make it possible to place ads/expo constructs in popular locations, provided the owner agrees and set a reasonable rate for the parking fee. And suddenly we also have some of that player driven economic interaction JC wanted so much! The only potential problem I can think of is if someone crash on your tile by accident, and don't have the means to repair. But that just means they have the choice of either getting the repair resources needed relatively quickly, or abandon the construct core to avoid the parking fee. And most of the players I know, would probably help repair the construct for free instead of playing the 'evil landlord' part. I know I would, if someone actually crashed and was struggling.

Yeah. The Institute + market + transporter ring on Alioth made sense as a central point of commerce in the Universe. And was a natural place to drop beginners and ease them into the game with easy access too the entire district market ring. The current state with a market pad of to the side somewhere, and transporters that serve almost no purpose any more. Not so much.. And I agree. Despawning inactive constructs would by far be the easiest and quickest "somewhat ok solution" for NQ to implement. And it would not even require a separate impound location to retrieve the blueprints, since they could just have a dispenser on the pad that would return impounded blueprints back to players (with or without a fee). And to forestall a certain quick fix that would be tempting for NQ to use. They will need to implement a impound dispenser for this solution. Since the quick fix hack of just moving blueprints straight into player inventories, would be used as an exploit to move resources from the markets for free.

They tried the usual 'quick fix' approach with the teleporting to a parking zone thing. But as usual they had not really thought it trough and implemented it in a way so that it caused more problems and confusion then it solved, and was forced to remove it again. And this is not just some nice to have feature. But as we said (years ago) something needed for the game to solve all kinds of potential problems with unwanted parking and ad spam in territories, bases, space stations and player driven markets (in the future) etc. Case in point. I have a hex close to district 6, and after 0.23 I now have several crashed and abandoned (not the core) constructs from other players littered around on my land. And with the move tool nuked, I am no longer able to remove them from my hex in any sensible way.. And as a result I have been forced to use scrap on other peoples constructs just to kill the annoying smoke generators lagging my game. I have considered making some big holes and cover them in dirt just to be a d**k. But so far I have resisted the urge.

The simple solution is to have a parking fee on the market pad, with something like 1h for free every 24h and increasing overtime cost to prevent long time parking. And to give people a place to show off/advertise make an large expo pad that is close'ish to each district market with free or cheep parking.

It used to run in W7 using OpenGL as a fallback for graphics, but it has been a while since I last tried.

If the queue is properly set up, It should run fine. Provided NQ doesn't have to reboot servers while you are gone..

The problem is that the finished oxygen is stuck in the crafting queue, and would not even fit in the nano inventory if it was empty. And since the crafting queue will not let you delete or move partial content, he is stuck until he is able to buy/borrow a large enough container to place it in. It is one of many known "we will fix it soon, said NQ a long time ago" bugs.

Look at trains, tanker ships and transport airplanes. They aren't especially pretty simply because economics and functionality was the primary design goals. So it would not be realistic to expect esthetic looking ships to perform as well as a tanker design.

If you make a game with an economy that can be manipulated by players (community driven in PC terms), big orgs will dominate by default. Just like RL with mega corps. I seriously don't understand why people are surprised by this? And no amount of wipe will avoid this, unless the entire player driven economy pillar is removed from the game. But here is the trick. Which big org is 'winning' the game does not matter at all for 99% of players just doing their own thing with some friends. Or at least they used to before 0.23. And forcing people to rely on the market will just give more power to the big orgs long term since they will now be able to totally dominate production of components.

I want to fly in 1st. for immersion, but I am only given necessary data (lift and force vectors and situational awareness from radar etc. ) while using 3rd.

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Not really. The content would be limited to a single account (uploader), so is there is a rapport it would be trivial to check and remove any bad content.

Pretty much exactly what I (and some others) tried to tell them back then.. And the same physics could be used the make reaching space hard in a way that would take time as JC wanted without having to resort to grind as a time gate. And as a side bonus it would make a nice marked for script vendors, so that people not interested in the physics could also go into space.

This is the old "DU should be easy to learn, but hard to master" discussion from NDA forums. And the main thing to be learned from that discussion (that NQ seem to not be able to understand), is that hard is not the same as tedious. For example way back, NQ felt it was no problem simplifying flight physics (hard to master) claiming it was to 'hard' for players. And then they turned around and dialed the grind level (tedium) up to 11. And as a side note. If not arguing your point of view for what you think would make the game better, then what? This forum would be pointless without that. So as long as you are on point with sensible and logical arguments and not resorting to straw man attacking or belittling people with dissimilar views, then there is nothing wrong with trying to form the game in your image. And then it is NQ's job to decide if they want to listen or not.

With asteroid mining I bet we are going to see a lot more space elevators being built to bring the ore down to markets (provided there is an actual large scale cost saving using elevators). So the collision problem is going to escalate from being annoying to a real problem.

It is like you are reading my mind. Until something changes drastically, I have now resigned myself to a daily round on the forum and a short login just to collecting the daily quanta. And the way it is now there is a snowballs chance in hell that I would become a subscriber once the beta/DAC's run out.

Seriously.. I am trying really hard to think of any game feature that had moved past initial first iteration and actually been improved so far in this game. Industry is the only thing from the top of my head that got a second iteration, but was it an ehh.. improvement? Everything else has just been very minor changes on the initial feature. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I would say 0.23 was mostly an issue of the changes not being balanced. Meaning you cannot totally change a core aspect of a game without additional changes that keep the overall balance in place. And the main gripe I think many have, is why NQ did not see this obvious problem with the patch in the first place (does NQ actually play the game?). Granted hindsight is always 20/20, but still. And a sadly a recurring theme here is that... Faster and smaller iterative changes instead of infrequent large patches with lots of changes (and bugs), is something we (early testers) have been asking for since the beginning.

If there was a wipe losing countless hours spent grinding would be demotivating, but even worse is losing what you have built. And by that I mean proper creative building. No amount of talent points or quanta reimbursement is going to give back the energy and creativity needed to rebuild such things.

I don't see how a wipe will change this. The way I see it, the economy is mostly struggling because the game does not have a game loop/ecosystem that justifies a thriving economy. The goal of a large org's will always be to become self sufficient, and with hundreds of players pooling recurses after a wipe they will quickly get ahead again and complete self sufficiency will only be a matter of time. Meaning that long term the economy has to be able to function without large org's using markets. Or put in another words. If large org's where forced to use the markets exclusively, they would also be in a position to largely dictate the market economy. And I bet you that would not be in favor of small players.