TheBlender

Why can't the skills tick real time while what you pay for tick when you actually play? 
 
How would this be unfair to the company if the players would of had access to that amount of time if they could have been  online 24/7? 

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This post really confuse me. 
I never asked for anything to be given for free. 
 
Firstly, I can agree with whatever amount of people I want to, and never said everyone else were wrong. I actually accepted counters and reasonable arguments. Don't be sour now because yours isn't one of them. 

While I have no interests in joining a democracy, I would love to see some in the game. 

Would be interesting to see if you could do a true democracy in a game like DU. I say no, but pls prove me wrong

idk about you guys but my vote is for DUers

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I didn't open the thread with intentions of sparking drama or forum necromancy. As you probably can see, I haven't been on the forum a hell of a lot but when I searched I did not see anything like this mentioned. 
 
While I think your rent analogy is completely inaccurate here, as your belongings and the agreement that no one else lives in your space while it's yours, I do appreciate what you offered to the discussion regarding bots and gold farming. 
Agreed. Glad to see that someone else sees what I see. That's my point exactly, a pay as you go system is already at work. It doesn't matter much if it's pay for the month or pay for the week/day. 
 
Nothing I've said here suggests anything not fair for novaquark or the players. So I'm not sure the point or subtle argument on the quotations around the word "fair". NQ gets their money, and the players pay for access. I've yet to see a valid counter argument (imo) other than your things still existing in the game. Perhaps hourly is too much to ask while, but is a biweekly option too much of a hassle and headache? Paying monthly is still pay as you go, however you look at it the amount of time you pay for. Unless NQ implemented yearly contracts like mobiles, it's pay as you go already. No one is obligated to pay for the following month even if your things are still existing in the virtual world. 
 
If you're going to contribute, please give a healthy discussion and debate, not just "I don't like it and it's stupid". 

I don't think so, but if I was NQ I would only provide this with DACs, like 7 or 14-day DACs, and leave the direct subs monthly.

@TheBlender
Whilst it seems like a good idea and dont get me wrong it would be great for those exact sorts of scenarios that you mentioned up top. I have to agree with the majority here, it would be a lot more practical for people to just ask NQ for some sort of refund or a credit that carries on to the next month or when ever you wanted to use said 'credit'.
Servers still cost a monthly/annual subscription fee and someone has to pay for that.
Maybe one day when/if NQ make their own Server farm, then costs may decrease or they may be able to implement a similar system to what your suggesting.
Until then i just dont see it being practical

That's a false analogy, though, since the landlord can't rent the apartment to anyone else during the time the tenant is away, whereas NQ's business model is entirely different (the goods that are being exchanged are intangible and hard to quantify -- what you're paying for isn't just your "share" of the server costs, you pay more than what it costs them to host your avatar and communicate with your PC over the internet, since you're paying for your access to the game which is an abstraction of the work they put into the developing it, etc.).
 
Ultimately it's more about whether it's a reasonable business decision for NQ or not. I.e. whether they can increase their profits by providing an alternate payment plan, and it's basically a mathematical optimization problem. Like I said, this is something they can only really consider once they have data to work with.

good, good. *removes top part from blender* now make a fruit smoothie for me please *puts fruit & other ingredients into blender* 

I like this idea, but I don't think a small studio like NQ should be focusing on developing an app for a game that's not out yet. Right now, making money isn't really a major issue, and producing a game that's viable and fulfills it's promises is far more important in this atmosphere of suspicion.
 
That being said, I would definitely appreciate something like this after release, even it it's in-game. NQ has talked about making a sort of creative mode for building and testing ships in, but that's not going to be until sometime after release. 

That is just not going to happen. Ads and all the stuff you mentioned ruin the game and it's not even going to be enough to mantain their expenses. Also F2p means cheaters and bots. F2p always means lower quality compared to a p2p counterpart. Du is P2P.
 
Now to quote your 4th point "4 A modification to the monthly subscription model. A way to get income from those who can’t handle the monthly subscription."
You can, just grind more and buy yourself a DAC from other players. 
 

Whether voluntary or not  - I already see enough advertising in real life.
Why should I watch (real) advertising in a game? If that were the case, then I demand low monthly fees for the game.

And now let's look at the lore:
The lore says that the world we know will no longer exist. So were we supposed to represent real products that will no longer exist in this world?
 
I'm against it.

Your constructs (bases, ships, ...) stay in the game 24/7. As your skills need to be stored and tracked 24/7. 
We had this discussion already in several posts over the years

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The game will blend with him. That is how @TheBlender will play.

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Ok, cool. It seemed like at first you were using some advanced sarcasm like... "SURE one day is plenty of time to test all these features". I was dying in laughter. 
 
But I agree, 1 day I'm sure will help a ton. Hopefully there will be more time in the future though 

No im not trolling im serious x) I think the pre-alpha will be more like a test phase for the server 
 

Could we at least get a small safe inventory space on the ARK ship for storing stuff in the early game?
 
My concern is that as a kickstarter backer when the game goes live I will have a whole stack of DACs in my inventory and no safe way to store them. I wont want to leave the safe zone untill i have stashed my valuables somewhere safe,

Having "great looking" water is not the issue, Archeage does an excellent job in that regard, for instance.
 
But in Archeage you cannot deform the terrain, and you can't randomly build structures underwater.
 
To make the water in DU behave "believably", it needs to be able to flow. If you dig a tunnel that emerges into the bottom of a lake, the tunnel should be flooded and the lake surface should drop accordingly. Digging a channel that opens-up into a body of water should fill that channel with water, while draining away the main body, etc. 
 
Terrain voxels are static, and they already lead to some strange outcomes, such as the potential to have "floating mountains" when the base voxels are excavated.
 
I'd imagine it would be very difficult to assign dynamic properties to the massive amount of voxels in an ocean or lake, and to make those voxels obey the laws of fluid physics.

I would have thought that they would not have messed with water since it can lead to some odd things in games where you can mine. For example, if I am digging up from some place 2km down and come up under a lake, what happens? If the water is static, then you could completely dig out around a pond and have a punch of floating water, which would be odd imo.

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