MinerMax555

Shouldn't we just let the unicorns be free?
I mean, KittyKhat is gonna freak out at this excitement!
 
Also, I sorta like this corporation, regardless if its full of alts. I mean-
 
Just kidding. Delete it.

Good Points. Also, Twerk has pointed out to me the difficulties in coordinating between peers with different units.
 
"They're 100 behind you!"
 
"100 what?"
 
"Yards!"
 
"...What's that in meters?"
 
"...No Idea."

He is the alts, silly.

Who doesn't want to build a ship out of wood just to see what happens?  Space Morgans anyone?

As for everyone who might be wondering, I can say that the concerns that Novaquark addressed with me were brought up and everything was covered. There is no problem as things just simply weren't conveyed correctly. I have fixed that(hence modifying the post and clearing things up) and am continuing the project.
 
Thank you.

Here is a basic layout idea for the Expo, based on 3 hexes. This design allows for the majority of the Expo grounds to be open, allowing ease of access for larger ships for both exhibition and parking. 

Im not meaning to sound rude but according to your link it means to elect representatives, and our members are allowed to elect Council members ^.^

Hello Everyone!
 
I'd like to welcome you to this topic today to announce the project that the DUA has been working on for a couple weeks now.
 
This service will allow you to have an organization website without the hassle of setting it up yourself. Think of it as a way to create something interesting but not have to have all the worries of updating it and maintaining it that would normally be involved. While this service is by no means complete, it will showcase some early features that we are looking to provide you.
 
https://duafaction.com/vms/
 
https://duafaction.com/tse/
 
Now some of you may ask the purpose. Let me direct you to the below paragraph. 
 
Our Purpose
 
We decided when we began the Diverse Unified Alliance(Now Diverse Unified Accord) that we wanted to help organizations get on stable grounds in Dual Universe and really thrive. In order to do that, we have proposed a number of services in order to find out if they will be able to help organizations. While we can not nearly implement them all at the moment without access to the game, we can add a number of them now. This is the start of those services.
 
We hold our ability to deliver upon these services high and hope that you will find a place for them in your organization.
 
 
What you can expect
 
As we announce this new implementation of our services, let me tell you what you can expect from them:
 
-A custom designed webpage to feature the content you want on there
-Certification for organizations that meet the DUA's standards
-Ability to track the number of visitors to your webpage.
 
As of now, we have implemented these features. For future reference, let me point you to what we plan to add.
 
-Organization management panel
-Tracking of organization statistics
-Multi-page organization hosting
 
We aim to pave the way for organizations to host their own content. While we can not reveal all our plans, I will go down to the details below.
 
Cyrule Certification 
 
Cyrule Certification is a service for the individual member that allows them to vet whether the organization they are looking at is a valid and proper organization. In the future, such things may become a problem. As this services implies, Cyrule of the Diverse Unified Accord will examine each organization to ensure that they follow the standards below:
 
-Does not contain Alternative Accounts(Alts)
-Does not scam members
-Does not engage in malicious practices
-Looks to provide a worthwhile experience to its members
 
If your organization abides by the standards above, then it is likely to be certified by our Cyrule branch.
 
Requirements
There are requirements for entry into this service. This is in part due to the fact that I'm not going to pay for large scale server hosting(like NQ). nor do I want to make a product that would eventually cause problems on a community scale(Needing to put your organization on multiple sites to attract attention).
 
So, because of such, the following requirements are involved for your organization to be selected as a candidate or for you to apply for these services:
 
-Does not contain many Alternative Accounts
-Does have good standing with the community
-Does look to gain a website
-Does not tick me angry(ie. enemy)
 
Additions to the above aforementioned requirements, the following does help your case of your organization's ability to join this service:
 
-Is a friend of the DUA
-Is a friend of CSYN
-Is lead by a 'community leader'
-Is small in size and looking for assistance
-Is getting backing by some people or other organizations
 
Conclusion
 
These services are still under heavy development and will need more time to branch out. However, we offer early adopters a chance to be engaged in the early design process and give them an opportunity to make something great of this service.
 
My name is MasteredRed of the Diverse Unified Accord. I thank you for your time.

In terms and conditions there is a paragraph that states that you are not allowed to make Alts in order to give an unfair advantage. I would think this scenario qualifies as unfair advantage.

It's not even his final form.

Damn, Cybrex has been busy.

Nice, we can always count on you keeping the books Anasasi.
 
I think you earned the title Master statistician by now.....

The forum community hit another small milestone today, as the member number hit 5,000! 

I'm sure these aren't all unique accounts, but hey, the communities still growing and that's great.



Let's just keep the ideas, the news and the interest spreading so D.U. can be a great game with a grand community!

 

I intend to not die first next time. Congrats to the winner, and thanks to the game master and all participants. It was a really fun experience

Honestly, I completely support Caeraes. Somewhat 'famous' people (Not to name and shame, but most have commented in a disapproving way) have created many alts.
 
I mean, hey. Its not hurting anyone, except for spot number #16 

I am very proud to introduce the latest product from Evil, Inc!
 
We have been working to develop tools that benefit the community, and the first such tool is a new data tracking website for Dual Universe at www.du-stats.com
 
This site will function very much like zkillboard.com does for EVE Online. Right now it is very basic and only shows a map of the community. This will expand as time goes on with new features coming online over time. Most of the back end tools have already been built and feature development is now more a matter of web design than anything else! Upcoming features include forum statistics, friends list tracking, in depth user profiles, change over time displays, alt detection and organization auditing! 
 
Now for some FAQ:
 
What can I use this for? This is a good tool for checking on people who are in your organization, or want to be. It's also a good tool to see which orgs share a lot of members or figure out who that person you are talking to is.
 
Is the data real time? No. The data is not real time and represents the last time when the website refreshed its data.
 
How often does the data update? Depends. It generally is updated once every two days, but sometimes can be a bit faster or slower.
 
Why isn't it real time? There is no need for real time data at this stage. Updating that frequently takes a lot of server resources. The update time will be reduced once there is a need for faster data. When the game comes out, the goal is for a 15 minute update time.
 
Will there be new features? Yes. This is very much an in-development project. Also, I'm not great at web design, so it will be simplistic for a while.
 
How long have you been working on it? About 4 months.
 
What do I do if I found a bug or security flaw? Please either report it here or pm me. 
 
I want my org to be excluded from this, can you remove it? Nope. If it exists on the official site, it exists here. If you don't want people to see it, don't create it.
 
I searched for my name and didn't find anything. Why? The map that is currently there only shows people who are in an organization. If you are not in an org, your name will not appear. Future features will show accounts even if they are not in any orgs.
 
Does it work on mobile devices? Maybe. It isn't currently designed for that, but hopefully will be in the future.

Yup, doesnt sound like a bad idea.
Perhaps it can use different stats to rank orgs.
 
For example most active member count.
That way the rank means more then it currently does.

The problem is not lots of alt corps, but alt corps at the top of the community listings, having unfair publicity.
 
Solution: remove the corporation listings by member count.
Instead list them by searchable tags, i.e. , Pirates, banking, RP, industry, military and corporations name. etc, ect.
 
Then all the corporation advertising can be done on the DU forum, ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
 
Now there is no insentive to artificially build large corps. Any inactive corp or alt corps will collect dust in a folder somewhere giving no one unfair advantage.

I intend to not die first next time. Congrats to the winner, and thanks to the game master and all participants. It was a really fun experience

Greetings,
 
It is I, the nefarious, evil, wicked, retarded and dastardly creator of the Intergalactic Banking Federation. Now first off, I would like to say that what I did was wrong, obviously, and that I in general should not have done it. However, I find that a lot of people did not understand why I had made this organization. I recently moved to DU from Star Citizen. The problem I had with Star Citizen was that, first off, it was not being made, and, second off, each main economy had it's own industry giant, with no hope of catching up. Many of these organizations had joined early, and where stuffed with alternate accounts that had been made before SC had decided to stop players without packages from being able to join orgs.
 
Despite this, accounts that had already joined where not affected, allowing large organizations to remain in control mostly because they inflated the numbers. 
 
So, then I saw DU. I instantly sold what I had in SC, and switched over. There was no way you could compete with those giants. But, looking through the organizations, I grew worried. Much of the accounts in the larger orgs (TU, Void) seemed to be fake, or at least inactive. This worried me. After already being scammed out of years of time hoping for SC, I did not want to go through the same thing with DU. 
 
So, I made the IBF. I made multiple alt accounts (how I did so I will later explain). The only goal in my mind was to see that, if I pushed hard and made all the accounts so that the community would see, what would Novaquark do? 
 
Also, as a note, the perpetrator of these activities where me, myself, and I. There was no one else involved.
 
In the end, Novaquark shut down the organization I had made, which gives me an enormous amount of joy. In SC, the devs don't want to attack the big orgs, because they are their main customers, and they simply don't care. To see devs and moderators shutting down an org, but still allowing the accounts to be free as a kind of second chance was also uplifting, because it shows that the people at Novaquark (I hope I spelling this correctly) don't want to be strict on any one, and are free to second chances. 
 
So, in the end, my mission is accomplished. You may not like or approve of my methods, and after this neither do I (I had a surprising amount of stress because of this, resulting in me typing this going on 70 hrs of no sleep), but at the end of the day it made me a staunch DU fan and believer. 
 
How I Made That Alts And How To Stop Alts
The most annoying thing about the signup system right now for an alt-maker is the recaptcha. This requires a human to do the recaptcha and puzzles it gives. (That is what would take up the majority of the ten hours I spent making alts)
 
However, the other things people thought would be difficult, password, email, nickname, where not that difficult. For email I would use guerilla mail, since you can make unlimited email addresses and for usernames I simply came up with them or had a generator open. On average, it took 3 minutes to make a convincing alt, and about 2 min to make a really horrible alt.
 
Now, there is a very easy way to stop this. Don't allow more than three alts per IP address (all the accounts I made, totaling 150, where made on two devices) do not allow users to have guerilla mail emails, and add more human-required brain work, such as maybe answering a code or making sense out of phrases in the email before the verification process for the accounts begins. 
 
If all of this is done, the average time for one alt account could exceed 20-30 minutes.
 
Also, maybe require filling out payment info, or at least residence, that way someone cannot be two people in the system.
 
The Apology Part:
I know I might have caused some pain recently. Whether annoyance, anger, or frustration, it was my fault. Please understand, I absolutely hate alts. They where what made me leave SC. I wanted to see if DU could be affected in the same way. The pain, annoyance or frustration I caused was completely my fault, and I sincerely apologize.
 
Getting to know this community, and see it come together to fight my organization was very empowering and motivating. I am now certain that this game will come out, because of the people who make up it's community and the developers, who listen to that community.

As some of you already pointed out, the "Intergalactic Banking Federation" (IBF) had an extremly high growth in the last days. Founded on the 1st of march, they already have 65 members. Nearly all those accounts were created in the last 5 days. There were 26 new members in one day. That's more than 1317 orgs got in their whole time of existance. I'd like to ask NQ to either delete this whole organization or the fake members. This is a problem that many online games have but we should start fighting against it as soon as possible.

As some of you already pointed out, the "Intergalactic Banking Federation" (IBF) had an extremly high growth in the last days. Founded on the 1st of march, they already have 65 members. Nearly all those accounts were created in the last 5 days. There were 26 new members in one day. That's more than 1317 orgs got in their whole time of existance. I'd like to ask NQ to either delete this whole organization or the fake members. This is a problem that many online games have but we should start fighting against it as soon as possible.

I will manage my own conmpany, especially my exploration divison

NQ will very likely intervene. They do have ways of finding fake accounts, and they do not like the idea of fake accounts either. Fake accounts are also against their guidelines. This brings up the question, why haven't the intervened yet? The answer is that it is the weekend, so most of NQ is probably at home. The second reason is that they don't track these sorts of things till they become a problem. I reported the IBM and the around 80 fake accounts and 13 fake organizations ascossciated with it yesterday, so they will probably see that tomorrow and take action. In the meantime, it's probably best not to start a Lynch mob.
 
Why did the person or persons do this? Most likely, they just joined the community and decided that the best way to get attention would be to appear to be a much bigger group. Having just joined, they wouldn't have known that there are only 10-20 people who join the community per day, so growing at such a rate is extremely suspicious. They also wouldn't have known there are people (like us ) who track this sort of thing, and would instantly notice.