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  1. First of all I don't play anymore. So my knowledge from the current state of the game is only based on the forums and dev-blogs. However there is a thing which is called "emergent gameplay". Which for me means that player interaction "emerges" from the game mechanics. I think the alien core stuff is an example of that. There is an actual reason to do something in the game which does result in PvP. I really have a hard time understanding the "anti-PvP" crowd. But doing PvP for the sake of doing PvP at least for me feels kind of pointless. It is like getting into a staged fight like in Counter-Strike where you simply try to kill the opponent. And to be honest. That CAN be nice. But I think it is not the PvP people who want PvP in DU are looking for. In a sandbox the devs should create "content drivers". That is something to actually fight for and not having to do a staged "lets fight for the sake of fighting" thing. Alien cores look like a content driver to me. But there are not many of them in DU which is probably why people are actually asking for changes. People are probably not asking "give us ways to fight", but "give us actual ingame reasons to fight". Yes someone could do some ingame roleplay stuff. But to be honest, having to do roleplay stuff because the game does not create enough "content drivers" is not really "emergent gameplay" for me.
  2. How do you know? DU was definitely talked about several times on EVE corp discords. Several EVE streamers also tried out DU for a while becuase trailers at the launch of beta also suggested a lot of PvP and warfare. And this poll is from 2016, yes but it looks like there were definately some backers back then who did play EVE before: And as you can see the whole discussion about being like EVE seems to be very old. Right now the game is mostly about building so many active players care about this part. So probably PvP players are maybe a minority but I am not sure if that was the case at launch of beta.
  3. A lot of people did that. And DU population is now rather small. I am not sure if this advice is really helpful for DU or is actually killing it, but OK.
  4. So here is my point of view: A trading station totally makes sense. But some trading station in space? Without any means to do a player market at all? Using dispensers for trading for me feels like a workaround. Given that Aphelia already has trading stations. So you probably were planning to have a lot of dispencers for people to buy stuff. On the other end. If people could simply create player markets which would be really important from my perspective. Given the way NQ does things, all you would need for a trading station, IF player owned trading stations did exists. All you probably need is 1 trading interface and that is it. Maybe a landing platform. But most of the "nice" stuff would probably have no purpose. For example if you would have to create an actual dock which has an atmosphere which is protected by forcefields. That would be nice. But in DU everything is so safe and boring that you simply fly somewhere and do whatever you want without having to think at all.
  5. Huge percentage. Sorry. The huge amount of DU players is probably not existant because everyone is so focused on their "buildings without purpose" that they don't care about actual gameplay/changes which could bring in more players. For example PvP, wipe or: PvE! However we all know that PvE will never happen. Which is probaly the reason why all discussions are basically endless repetitions about the same problems because we all know that the main problem will never be addressed.
  6. Just stating my opinion of what I read on the forums. I realize that people get deeply emotional when it comes to their creations. Problem is that most of the buildings in DU are only interesting visually but have no purpose/function. Which makes them "random" in my point of view. And that has also been stated over and over again by other people on the forums. However the usual DU player completely ignores that criticism and is happy with their "creations without a purpuse"="random building". From my perspective. Furthermore the huge amount of DU players who are simply against any changes which involve PvP and which are completely not able to even try to understand other opinions is the main reason why I stopped playing.
  7. DU players probably going to tell you: But they said they only wipe if it is really necessary. I have ideas A-Z about how to do it differently and they don't listen to my idea, so I am angry. DACs are bad because I do no longer have an advantage by starting early. Yes NQ said there would be DACs but since I have invested time in the game I would expect NQ to change their mind and make DACs differently to what they said initially. Also: I did some random building which nobody really cares about but I played 12 hours every day so I am important and all potential users at launch are irrelevant and NQ should only focus on me.
  8. It was 100% obvious. However I would really like to know how the discussion between Karen and the manager continues
  9. This game is not sustainable because there are not enough players to sustain this game in the long term. Builders are like: If you wipe I will quit. Newsflash: This game will not be here in a year without major changes. Because games have to make money and DU does not make enough money out of the 1k builders. So yeah. They can listen to the 1k builders who are very vocal that they want to keep their constructs. But listening to them will, in my opinion, result in DU dying because that will not result in enough money coming in. Honestly: Do you really think people care about a nice "spinning shopping cart"? You look at that and after 1 min max you think it is boring. If you have new players coming in they are interested in the "Wild West" part where anything is possible. That is the main reason why a wipe makes sense. But builders are actually preventing this game from evolving. Like "airbrake obstruction". Builders do not want change in this game. So there is no way NQ can improve the game if they listen to builders. Because they don't like change. And no change means the death of the game.
  10. I only watch this from the sidelines as I don't play the game anymore. But based on what a part of the community want I really hope that NQ does not do a wipe. Because that will ruin the game completely. And maybe the Mincraft and Landmark players will finally understand that their playstyle is not sustainable for a game like DU.
  11. Minecraft is fun. Has exploration and NPCs. And after a wipe I just restart again. When it comes to the wipe discussion I think minecraft is a bad example.
  12. Same here. I stopped trying to understand DU players a long time ago. For me playing a game is the entertainment I get while playing. For others it is something different I do not understand. I basically do not understand most of the DU playerbase, which is also a reason I quit because they are very toxic when it comes to other gameplay loops other than "build nice things". They want something which is basically orthogonal to what I want. And I don't even know/understand what they want. And they probably don't know/understand what I want either. If the game would be fun, then everybody will play the game after a wipe. The main problem is that the game is not fun. Others/Builders have found probably other reasons to play the game. And a wipe will invalidate their "unknown reason to play the game". Which is plausible. Since the game is not fun.
  13. Same here. Since about a year. DU forum can be quite entertaining, actually more than the game itself. And what is the most funny part is that people try to paint the PvP players as the culprits. Like this game has been a train wreck for so long but now PvP is the problem. It is really funny to watch from the outside.
  14. Probably a little bit offtopic but I get the feeling others have no idea why people do PvP in a sandbox or what their motivation is. Yes I come from EVE. But PvP in EvE has only roughly something to do with "letting off steam". Arenas do also exist in EVE too from time to time but I don't care about them because that is a boring gameplay. Sometimes I just want to mine in EVE and rat (earn money by killing NPC enemies) a little bit. But then there are so many hostiles in our space so I jump into a PvP ship and join a defense fleet. To protect the area I am living in and to be able to mine and get money in the future. PvP is more about defending and securing your space. Or expanding it. Not so much about "letting off steam". And I like that when I mine I have to check comms and intel if I am safe or if there are enemies nearby. I live in something which is roughly something like the "not safe zone" in DU. Yes DU has not good tools to support that gameplay. And that is why people ask for more interesting mechanics for PvP. But your reasoning why people play open PvP games like EVE and participate in PvP is extremely weird.
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