CosmicDragon

I don't think we know too little about the game to plan something like this.
 
- We know that ships are going to be custom made. 
- We know the physics of ships involving weight is going to be important 
- We know that the placement of engines and other elements on ships will affect their flight capability
- We know that different materials will have different attributes like weight, strength, etc. 
 
I'm happy to give citations on each of those points if necessary.
 
Even with those very basic bits of information we know enough to say "we will give a list of guidelines that your ship must follow", and it's trivial to setup a tournament style where there will be a process of elimination, best of 3 rounds for each pair up.
 
 
I'm not talking about a tournament with fleets of ships, but just 1v1 matches between the best ships that alliances can create (following the guidelines we can create once we know more about the mechanics of ship construction, which should be elaborated on shortly with the next dev video).
 
 
We don't really need devs (or Novaquark) running the show, it would be nice but that's not the point of why I made this post. 
 
People should be competing to prove that they are the best, not for some ingame reward given out by Novaquark. 

@msoul, the Devs probably not interfere with the game to such a level gain that it would break their main selling point of "emergent game play" even if just for a short time.  And to your list I raise my own:
What rules, there will be a ship count what else is needed? (Yes there are things that could be required, but half the fun would be seeing if you can do something against the rules without anyone noticing ) This game is all about custom And yes, I agree as of now we know to little about this game to start planning a thing such as this.

I like the diagram, and I was think that if there's a way to share information in real time in game, then the positioning of the vice admirals would make scene. But if for some reason there is not then the flagship would have all the Admirals and sort of be above the battle scanning things down below, although now that I am typing this it seems silly to put that big of a target on one ship, which means that the price of spaceship glass is going way up in my mind, seeing as we know nothing about sensors yet.

When you said the 3D globe is was thinking about that massive spherical holoprojector on the command deck of that station and in the screenshots.  I can't make out what it is supposed to be displaying in those images but a planetary map would be as good as anything, or use it as the main display for all sensor data I think that would look much cooler.  Maybe to share a location publicly you can display it on these types of maps and then other players would have the option to update their own maps.  I think the book mark system is going to be explained when they introduce the ingame communications systems, for chat and other data like market orders, and how they are transmitted though out the network.  As a side note being able to sell bookmarks using the market system would also be amazing for professional prospectors and treasure hunters and the like.

I believe that this will happen naturally, over time.   I see smaller groups living near each other in peace setting up alliances so they can all help keep each other safe.  As time moves on, these will eventually evolve into nations.

Could not have said it any better myself. 
 
 
Even if some of us are trying to make it happen sooner rather than later. 

For those interested this is the best Sci-Fi ship chart I have ever seen. Or link here.
 
 
 

Citizenship could bring the land you control under the protection of a larger organization, in return for taxes or something.  Government controlled trade routes would be interesting, allowing a trade or logistics organization the has a headquarters in your territory to use stargates you have built, or whatever the land equivalent would be, some type of super-highway. All depends on the size of the nation and how many people it has supporting it, and how strong it's allies are.  You can't enforce your law if you have only three guys and there one man fighters.  If you think about the three territories they will control, vs the 20 tiles that the larger corporations will have it's hard to think of a reason (besides RP, of course) that the corporation will need the nation.

Many exploring and mining type games have a way to process raw material collected into a usable form. Imagine in minecraft smelting iron ore to create iron ingots.
 
I would like to propose a similar system for DU, but one that allows substantial factories, with complex inputs and outputs.The basic idea is that with exponential increased complexity of a refinery, you get linearly increased yields of materials. Similar to how some mods in Minecraft work (ic2, mechanism, etc) and several other games work.
 
So a simple smelter would turn 100 units of ore into 100 units of metal, but maybe adding ore washing gives 106 units of metal. and then adding an input of flux, grinding, and sifting gives you 112 units of metal. Real life ore refining has many steps with many machines, feedback loops, inputs, and outputs. Add to that there is no reason to stick with real life limits in this game. Maybe a matter fusactor can take some of the rock scrap and break it down to get the last bits of ore.
 
As an example of how far you can go, with a pile of machines and process, look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_refinery#Common_process_units_found_in_a_refinery
There is a list of common processes involved, many of which require different inputs, output, feedback, and have multiple working parts.

 
 
Constructing and running a large complex orbital refinery seems like a blast. A nice part about this system is it doesn't really impact normal gameplay. You could still make your iron with a smelter, and at a reasonable rate. You just get increased efficiency with increased investment.
 
Devs could add the system later, and / or add onto the system later. Little changes by adding such a system into the game post release. The system is inherently balanced because of linear gain from exponential effort. This means that (assuming last level is high enough) only the biggest refineries could justify implementing it.
 
Anyway, that's my idea. I'm captivated by the image of pipes running all over between machines, with conveyors and furnaces burning, all infront of the backdrop of a planet.
 
Let me know what you think.
 

Qualifies as both. 

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For years, he wandered, searching for a home. Among the stars and planets he'd roam. His strength was fearsome, his mind unmatched, tired of the bounty and catch. For decades he slept, waiting to awake, to seek a home for living's sake. A signal was sent, a message in the skies, this dragon awoke, hope in his eyes. 
With haste, his home he had to take, his wings drew the stars in their wake. He's arrived, that fearsome beast, the spoils are now his feast. 
The CosmicDragon is home at last, his years of waiting all but past. At his roar, let his enemies tremble as he judges the outcast. 
 
I'd like everyone to meet CosmicDragon. The Aether's newest member!
 
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I think I would like something that is a cross between, Harrower-class star destroyer and the Khanid Amarr ships, (yes I realize that only means black paint instead of gold plated everything).

SGU Destiny here I come

Quick question, does anyone know if we will name systems we travel to first? Cause I'm tots down for a system named "The Sizzler".

Nope, there is a respawn mechanic, I would go as far as to say it is a core mechanic, and a top tier trade good. Here is the blog post:  https://devblog.dualthegame.com/2014/07/06/quantum-immortality/

100% this.
 
Goonswarm's motto in Eve Online is "We're not here to ruin the game, we're here to ruin YOUR game", so I'm okay with them having to organize under a new name for DU.
 
As for Test Alliance, I'm happy to give the organization over to a representative from them, I just didn't want someone else taking it and doing something nefarious with it.

I enjoyed that quite a bit. Will definitely try to make it next time as well.
@Tnecniw, Yes, but maybe he is just holding the names so they can't be used?. Hopefully.

Lets hope that... Goonswarm is... well horrible

I enjoyed that quite a bit. Will definitely try to make it next time as well.
@Tnecniw, Yes, but maybe he is just holding the names so they can't be used?. Hopefully.

While I am frustrated of lack of the proverbial "meat and potatoes" of my appetite for more info on the game, I can understand of the devs not running their mouth and promising us the kitchen sink as well. I'll keep visiting the forum daily, getting my fix of the Q&A section and wait until another Youtuber talks shit just for the Devs to shoot him/her down with the power of facts.

My opinion is that you will be able to "build" anywhere.  Now the question will be--in a sandbox universe--will you want to?  It will be like changing a tire on the driver side of the car on the shoulder of the freeway--doable but not normally a good time.  Given that in that type of situation you will be vulnerable to anyone coming by who may wish to....ummmm....acquire your vehicle, I think that there will be a market for spacedocks, open stations, co-op docks, etc...that provide some level of security (and access to materials, technology, assistance).  Of course that will then create some little "gem" of a place that a group may want to raid, take over, lay to waste for giggles, you name it, if not defended.
 
I think that the ability to modify something will end up not being limited by world/server mechanics, but by how social interactions start coming about in DU.  Tons of pirates, or organized groups that do play well in the ether together--guarded outposts/stongholds.  A general "I'm okay-Your okay" commune attitude--build anywhere.   We will probably end up being somewhere in the middle with someplaces being more dangerous than others.

And then they add a heist system in the game and World War BTTHRT shalt begin.

People are not interested in flags. People join empires because they believe the message of its emperor.