Hades

All I've got to say is, this is how it felt before it started:
 

This is how it felt during:
 


This is how it felt afterwards:
 


And this is how it feels waiting to play again:
 
 
 
Overall I'd say Saturday went like this:
 
 

I heard tha-
 
*hades was never heard from again*

Life doesn't work that way @Kirtis.

and here i stumble yet on another great literature piece of people asking for free shit

Services like Netflix use the flat-rate per month (subscription) model. You don't pay for what you watch, you pay for the ability to watch.
 
It works because the total volume of subscriber revenue is sufficient to cover costs and generate a profit. Some heavy users will get a bargain, while others that only watch 1 movie a month will get less value. But the sub is cheap enough to be attractive for the average user, because there's cross-subsidization taking place.
 
"Pay-per-view" services are generally far more expensive on a per-hour basis than those that charge a flat monthly fee.
 
"Pay-per-view" also increases the administration costs for the company. Detailed logs have to be kept for each customer, and the inevitable disputes over usage has to be handled by additional CS rep's.

Nope, I don't - not at all.
Nope you'll need possibly a similar amount as in eve. Because it's the same free market as in EVE. Yes, elements and minerals will be more expensive in DU because of less supply, but that only means that quanta are more valuable as compared to in eve. The basic mechanic here is the free market which is the same.
I played eve for more than 8 years and I NEVER saw evidence of P2W.
So you have to think hard about certain facts here:
- how do those guys define P2W? Are they only butthurt because some guy just buys ship after ship after ship to kill them (which is NOT pay to win as those first group could just COUNTER the ship)?
- are they referring to PLEX ALONE? or to Skill injectors?
 
As this is going in circles for days now, I will just refrain from answering any more - you have your POV and I have mine. Be happy about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Your constructs (bases, ships, ...) stay in the game 24/7. As your skills need to be stored and tracked 24/7. 
We had this discussion already in several posts over the years

Personally, I think the option of DACs being unlootable on purchase, but lootable after they have been traded is the best option.  No one likes losing something they've paid hard earned money for.  I am a casual player, and as such... I like the casualness of this methodology.
 
Furthermore, I am against the whole lootable currency thing.  Once again, I am a casual player... You can steal my cargo, you can steal my ship... but the currency should stay the way it is.

Haha, I'm sure you'd get sick of the pre-alpha after awhile if it were 24/7.  I will personally most likely be surfing on the first test unfortunately.  Assuming lee, Marie, or Norma kick up something good
 
But I know I will get a good play through eventually, and that's enough for me.
 
edit;
talking about the atv test of course.  I rarely know what I'm doing 2 weeks in advance lol.  Hope to make it on the 30th, and maybe the 23rd if it bums out.  At least I'd have DU to make up for it

Well the video showing space flight between alioth and the moon does show them manipulating the position of the sun.  So I would say a day night cycle is planned.  No clue about the stars

thing is, I wouldn't play games (nor drink, nor smoke, nor throwing money out of the window) if I only earn 300€ / month. As twerk said, this "argument" of "make it cheaper!" doesn't start or stop with the monthly fee but goes on to hardware.
 
NQ charges 10-15€ per month of gametime. period. That's their choice and they thought very well about that, just look at very basic and simplified numbers.
 
If you want to play - pay.
If you want to play but can't afford it - improve your life first and do something about it, instead of whining about "make it cheaper!". You can always improve your situation if you work hard and be smart about certain aspects. NQ can't change your financial situation - YOU can

I mean, everything has pretty much been said at this point.  But I love the model they are using.  

playing video games is no human right; if they only get 300€ a month then they should work on improving their situation, not waste time in some VR
 
wasn't meant that way but oh well

Yessir, never upgrade until you actually need it.  Technology is always booming.  Being in the alpha is nice, but it's not going to be as "fun" as the main game.  At least, not for the same reasons
 
I always enjoy alphas, as they are inherently broken... and can lead to good times in and of itself.

I think that's something that needs to be handled privately.  None of us know what the joke is, nor do I think that's something we should know.  If it is their discord channel, then that's that.  You're free to send them a PM or something.
 
No one has the right (or backing?) to call any type of lifestyle pathetic.  If someone loves to throw their heart and soul into their work, awesome.  If someone loves taking work off, awesome.  I personally take work off far more than I should when a good swell is pounding.

I'm out of likes, but I agree with you Wilks.
 
It's fine to take time off, but shaming other people for not doing that is not okay.

Nice back pedal. I think it's quite clear to everyone what you meant with what you were saying

Oh get off your high horse. 
 
We all understand how important this moment is, and we are all excited. Just because not everyone is taking off of work doesn't mean we are "not true fans". No one, not you or anyone else has a right to try and tell people that they aren't good enough fans, or aren't "real" parts of the community. We are all working hard to build a better community. 
 
I am going to be participating as much as possible and no one will be able to accuse me of not being there, but unless NQ wants to pay my bills for me then I'm not taking work off for alphas and betas. Over the next year there are probably going to be 3 or more alphas and 1 to 3 betas, plus launch. Taking two weeks off for each means 7x2 = 14 weeks off. I wish I had that much vacation time, but I don't.
 
Dual Universe is a marathon, not a sprint and I'm here for the long haul. 

Couldn't agree more here.  How much someone wants a game to be completed is not dictated by how much time they take off, how much time they dedicate to, or how much ramen they eat for the next few weeks ^^
 
I'm a hardcore fanatic for this game, but if there's a 15-20 second swell with a small offshore breeze...  there's no way I'm going to be behind a computer screen.  
 
Basically what I'm trying to say is that just because someone has higher priorities than DU does not mean they are any less of a fan than the next guy.
 
Similarly, I will not be taking time off for the alpha.  Mainly due to the fact that I know it's just that, an alpha for testing.  Whether I'm doing the testing or the next guy is fairly irrelevant.  I will test stuff when I can, others will test stuff when they can.  I imagine NQ will have a "reported and understood but not fixed" page that will minimize repeat reports.
 

Couldn't agree more here.  How much someone wants a game to be completed is not dictated by how much time they take off, how much time they dedicate to, or how much ramen they eat for the next few weeks ^^
 
I'm a hardcore fanatic for this game, but if there's a 15-20 second swell with a small offshore breeze...  there's no way I'm going to be behind a computer screen.  
 
Basically what I'm trying to say is that just because someone has higher priorities than DU does not mean they are any less of a fan than the next guy.
 
Similarly, I will not be taking time off for the alpha.  Mainly due to the fact that I know it's just that, an alpha for testing.  Whether I'm doing the testing or the next guy is fairly irrelevant.  I will test stuff when I can, others will test stuff when they can.  I imagine NQ will have a "reported and understood but not fixed" page that will minimize repeat reports.
 

Couldn't agree more here.  How much someone wants a game to be completed is not dictated by how much time they take off, how much time they dedicate to, or how much ramen they eat for the next few weeks ^^
 
I'm a hardcore fanatic for this game, but if there's a 15-20 second swell with a small offshore breeze...  there's no way I'm going to be behind a computer screen.  
 
Basically what I'm trying to say is that just because someone has higher priorities than DU does not mean they are any less of a fan than the next guy.
 
Similarly, I will not be taking time off for the alpha.  Mainly due to the fact that I know it's just that, an alpha for testing.  Whether I'm doing the testing or the next guy is fairly irrelevant.  I will test stuff when I can, others will test stuff when they can.  I imagine NQ will have a "reported and understood but not fixed" page that will minimize repeat reports.
 

Ouch ... yama has questioned my fanliness... How will I go on? Lol
 
Just because people don't set aside as much time for something as you think they should doesn't make them any less of a fan

I'm planning on taking time off when the game actually launches, but not for the alpha. I'll certainly be playing as much as possible but I personally won't be clearing my whole schedule for something that isn't always on. 

Even if it's not an actual presentation, but just a nice video to highlight the occasion... I'd be happy ^^

pirate - nuff said