Kongou

The Constitution of the Terran Union is now ratified and valid

 
If you are a representative of another Organization that want to officially acknowledge this Constitution, please contact me for further information how to do this.

Oh no i brought some salmon cells with me so that i can clone and breed them
yummy salmon

@Theophilus
We have no Ministry of Communication, because it isn't necessary and roles that this Ministry would fulfill are already taken by other Ministries.
Of course there could be roles that we didn't thought of, so please share your idea with us, when you have one.
 
@the others
everyone that has replied to this post should now be contacted by us.

I have applied to join Hopefully I will be accepted.

It isn't premature at all, because we certainly need the time to develop everything, set up our structures, create the the tools we need, until the game launches. The Terran Union is no less ambitious than Dual Universe itself. What we want to create is something that is normally provided by the developers of a game, a nation within the game.
 
When the devs implent these nations, they normally provide services to the players so that they can do what they want to do. But Dual Universe won't have this kind of dev created nations, so the TU is there to take this place, but because it isn't supported by the devs and the game mechanics we need not only to plan the services we want to provide, but also the means to be able to provide this services and to support our structure. This means a lot of bureaucracy and this needs a lot of planning. Even with our most optimistic estimations currently we come at a needed member count of 1000, alone to run the complete government. Not to mention the time that we will need to set everything up and get running.

Sorry my statement was a bit misleading (forgot a word), we don't have 1000 people, we need probably 1000 to run it.
I fixed it in my former post.

Im still here for you all, but things keep going missing around here. a shipment was due today of urgent medical supplies for kids with a crippling disease from the 10,000 year hibernacle journey... poor kids...
 

 
Come join Cinderfall if you want to help get to the bottom of who keep's taking all the medical supplies and food.

Hello everyone, reinforcing some points here.
 
I'm looking for people who will be interested in filling leadership roles within the Cinderfall Syndicate. The Syndicate is more than a guild, its more than an alliance of guilds, we are providing the single largest international collective of major organisations, but now Astrophil and I need some help to keep things operating smoothly.
 
Namely I am looking for players who would like to be a part of this massive effort. In order to achieve this I'm looking towards the players in cinderfall operating a bit like Jedi.
I need you to have a focus on maintaining balance in a universe that so often tips to one side or the other. Embrace the light and the dark, the everything and the nothing.
 
We're looking for Magistrate Council members, the uppermost level leaders, you must be very wise and very leadership oriented. We'll need help planning and running cinderfall and other organisations that benefit us. A Major leader position equivalent to that of a guild leader, but remember modesty, harmony, balance, you must be able to work well with Astro and I and be a good person.
 
'Marshals' a vague term for now, well need some people beneath the Council to help administrate tasks, these people might be sorts of Admirals / Generals or so forth.
 
'Lieutenants' a vague term for now, the support officers for the 'Marshals'.
 
Masters, the various players who have excelled in varied fields of gameplay. If you prove you can be respectful and adhere to the rules of Cinderfall you can achieve this rank, invite new players in, mentor new or existing players.
 
We have many other roles open as well. I operate Walküren-Lün, a manufacturing operation that we will staff with cinderfall members, TU citizens, and possibly a few CSYN member orgs citizens will be able to help.
 
The JSDF (Joint Syndicate Defence Force) We have engineering and military operations that will have pop up positions from time to time as tasks dictate.
 
Really we have it all, its so difficult to focus on one specific area because of the scope of the international efforts. Come help be apart of the premier civilized organisation, the Cinderfall Syndicate.

I just stumbled upon this game while randomly clicking through game-videos on youtube and I CANT WAIT to play this!
 
Coming from WoW (the only other mmo i really played for a longer time) my mind is exploding!
 

 
For a very long time i was looking for a game like this, I tried EVE and it just did not fit - i have high hopes that i will find a new home in this game. Please hurry releasing this cherry!!

Joining an org really is the answer to this.  I tend to be a bit anitsocial from time to time and I'm mostly a solo player.  But after setting up an org and starting to talk about what our plans will be with our members, the role play aspect of it all has become VERY appealing.  Now I simply don't want to play this game alone.  I'm almost even looking forward to griefers when they discover that girl down there building all alone already has reinforcements on the way.  Surprise, surprise...muhahaha. 

Thank you for being a supporter, welcome to the forums. Feel free to ask what you like, check out the dev blogs, for the most part everyone is chill unless you try to bring up controversial topics.
 
Anyhow, I assume you like space voxel games, anything in particular you enjoy about the greater genre?

Well... 

You silly Mellivora Capensis-es, we're still good for the party @ Tortuga at six right?
 
I still want to put a shady csyn hub on tortuga, get some of that pirate business flowing into the cinder market.
 
Oh heck I rambled and was going to explain the entire syndicate, but nobody here wants to hear that. Good job on the art.

Well said, I dont play overwatch seriously I just play a few rounds once in a while for fun. But I'd have never touched it at all if it had gone the F2P path.
 
It's quite enjoyable knowing I can just log on and dont feel any pressure to buy a bunch of stuff in order to think I'm getting the full experience of the game. Its a real wonder that people nowadays are willing to play half a game as long as they wrongly imagine they are only paying for the parts of the game they want to pay for.
 
Dual Universe will be great

Well said, I dont play overwatch seriously I just play a few rounds once in a while for fun. But I'd have never touched it at all if it had gone the F2P path.
 
It's quite enjoyable knowing I can just log on and dont feel any pressure to buy a bunch of stuff in order to think I'm getting the full experience of the game. Its a real wonder that people nowadays are willing to play half a game as long as they wrongly imagine they are only paying for the parts of the game they want to pay for.
 
Dual Universe will be great

After spending some time on the Dual Universe Facebook, kickstarter page and these forums I have noticed a lot of very negative feedback about the subscription price model. It actually got me down a bit seeing how many people were saying things like "sub game, I'm out." And i just wanted to say to people who may be feeling a little down about all the negative feedback(The NQ Dev and community manager as well):
 
Remember Overwatch.
 
For those that don't know Overwatch got a lot of flak when they announced that it would be $40 pc/$60 console. In fact I was able to find this post from 10 months ago simply by Googling Overwatch overpriced:
https://www.reddit.com/r/truegaming/comments/3rughx/so_overwatch_will_be_40_am_i_alone_in_thinking/
 
At the time I remember what felt like a HUGE amount of the player base saying very similar things about Overwatch that are now being said about DU. "Full price for an Arena pvp style game, I'm out." Players saying things like the devs were out of touch, that these types of pvp games are all f2p now,  it should be f2p and players can just buy heroes like every other game. The blizzard dev team knew that hero swapping was simply too important to the games concept to allow for a f2p and buy heroes style game. They knew that to have a good game they needed to sell all the heroes in a package so that teams weren't held back by a player who only owned two heroes and was getting counter picked. In short they priced the game the way it needed to be priced to make the game work. Overwatch has become extremely successful and has sold millions of copies.
 
I just wanted to say to the dev team if you make a good game people will buy it and pay a sub fee or whatever pay system. Just do what is best for the game and the vision you have for it. To the community and the dev team, if you are feeling a little down, like I was, about the amount of negative feedback just remember that other games have gone through similar problems and come out extremely successful.
 

Hello everyone, reinforcing some points here.
 
I'm looking for people who will be interested in filling leadership roles within the Cinderfall Syndicate. The Syndicate is more than a guild, its more than an alliance of guilds, we are providing the single largest international collective of major organisations, but now Astrophil and I need some help to keep things operating smoothly.
 
Namely I am looking for players who would like to be a part of this massive effort. In order to achieve this I'm looking towards the players in cinderfall operating a bit like Jedi.
I need you to have a focus on maintaining balance in a universe that so often tips to one side or the other. Embrace the light and the dark, the everything and the nothing.
 
We're looking for Magistrate Council members, the uppermost level leaders, you must be very wise and very leadership oriented. We'll need help planning and running cinderfall and other organisations that benefit us. A Major leader position equivalent to that of a guild leader, but remember modesty, harmony, balance, you must be able to work well with Astro and I and be a good person.
 
'Marshals' a vague term for now, well need some people beneath the Council to help administrate tasks, these people might be sorts of Admirals / Generals or so forth.
 
'Lieutenants' a vague term for now, the support officers for the 'Marshals'.
 
Masters, the various players who have excelled in varied fields of gameplay. If you prove you can be respectful and adhere to the rules of Cinderfall you can achieve this rank, invite new players in, mentor new or existing players.
 
We have many other roles open as well. I operate Walküren-Lün, a manufacturing operation that we will staff with cinderfall members, TU citizens, and possibly a few CSYN member orgs citizens will be able to help.
 
The JSDF (Joint Syndicate Defence Force) We have engineering and military operations that will have pop up positions from time to time as tasks dictate.
 
Really we have it all, its so difficult to focus on one specific area because of the scope of the international efforts. Come help be apart of the premier civilized organisation, the Cinderfall Syndicate.

Its all good, you want free to play? Ok Im out, no money from me. I've been waiting for years for a game worth playing that embraces a return to the subscription.
 
If all the free to play games out there were so great why arent we off playing them right now? Why dont you have any memorable friends or have any love for playing those games? Why did you in the end abandon them and go banging the war dums asking for more free stuff somewhere else?
 
Is it possible those developers dont listen to their community, they dont develop actual game content, the people youre playing with have no money and no integrity. Not only are the spineless creeps but they lack coordination to push buttons on their keyboards and cant complete basic dungeons as a group. Well thats ok, they devs will just let you all swipe that credit card to get over the difficult stuff.
 
No wait everyone. I think instead of using the single shard technology that JC and Devs developed over the past few years isnt what we should do at ALL!
Lets make it like second life, well make private people run their own servers. The cost to licence the software from NQ will be set at $10,000 dollars a year.
Now youll also need a cloud capable server from a major provider, that wont be cheap looks like it costs about $1,200 dollars a month for a basic setup.
$24,400 a year to run your own private piece of the single shard dual universe game! HELL YEA FREE TO PLAY!
 
Now maybe you didnt want to setup your own slice of life and will just bum off of NQ's free space and make them handle all your character data.
 
So now you can log into the game, yep didnt have to buy a boxed copy! SO FREE!
Next up, if you want to wear anything other than the basic starter clothes. its 15$ for a shirt, 15$ for pants, 10$ for shoes, 5$ for hats, gloves, and other accessories.
so about 60-70$ to deck your character out with clothing.
You can make a second character, but to unlock a second character slot that will be 25$ per
 
All right, by golly, you got into the game, and you aren't totally naked anymore. I mean, you weren't forced to pay but you did anyway. so you spent 60$ in the cash shop in month one. but you arent done yet.
To leave Alioth youll have to pay $35 to instantly learn rocketry$ or You can pay 15$ to unlock a tech tree that trains over time but that will take 5 months to train, sorry the learning speed is reduced for players that dont pay a subscription.
 
So you think. hmm do i want to pay 35$ or wait 5 months and get griefed on Alioth and quit the game?
So you pay 35$
Month 1 expenditure. 95$, but its ok, its ok, nobody FORCED you to pay this.
 
 
 
I could go on like this forever, but do you all get the point yet?

A necessary feature for implementing the nexus system. Although hopefully as mentioned by Twerk it can be configured with the existing units.

The plan is to have individual terminals but link their information in game, for various aspects. Be those missions, or market data on the prices in another trade node and so forth

Its all good, you want free to play? Ok Im out, no money from me. I've been waiting for years for a game worth playing that embraces a return to the subscription.
 
If all the free to play games out there were so great why arent we off playing them right now? Why dont you have any memorable friends or have any love for playing those games? Why did you in the end abandon them and go banging the war dums asking for more free stuff somewhere else?
 
Is it possible those developers dont listen to their community, they dont develop actual game content, the people youre playing with have no money and no integrity. Not only are the spineless creeps but they lack coordination to push buttons on their keyboards and cant complete basic dungeons as a group. Well thats ok, they devs will just let you all swipe that credit card to get over the difficult stuff.
 
No wait everyone. I think instead of using the single shard technology that JC and Devs developed over the past few years isnt what we should do at ALL!
Lets make it like second life, well make private people run their own servers. The cost to licence the software from NQ will be set at $10,000 dollars a year.
Now youll also need a cloud capable server from a major provider, that wont be cheap looks like it costs about $1,200 dollars a month for a basic setup.
$24,400 a year to run your own private piece of the single shard dual universe game! HELL YEA FREE TO PLAY!
 
Now maybe you didnt want to setup your own slice of life and will just bum off of NQ's free space and make them handle all your character data.
 
So now you can log into the game, yep didnt have to buy a boxed copy! SO FREE!
Next up, if you want to wear anything other than the basic starter clothes. its 15$ for a shirt, 15$ for pants, 10$ for shoes, 5$ for hats, gloves, and other accessories.
so about 60-70$ to deck your character out with clothing.
You can make a second character, but to unlock a second character slot that will be 25$ per
 
All right, by golly, you got into the game, and you aren't totally naked anymore. I mean, you weren't forced to pay but you did anyway. so you spent 60$ in the cash shop in month one. but you arent done yet.
To leave Alioth youll have to pay $35 to instantly learn rocketry$ or You can pay 15$ to unlock a tech tree that trains over time but that will take 5 months to train, sorry the learning speed is reduced for players that dont pay a subscription.
 
So you think. hmm do i want to pay 35$ or wait 5 months and get griefed on Alioth and quit the game?
So you pay 35$
Month 1 expenditure. 95$, but its ok, its ok, nobody FORCED you to pay this.
 
 
 
I could go on like this forever, but do you all get the point yet?

Its all good, you want free to play? Ok Im out, no money from me. I've been waiting for years for a game worth playing that embraces a return to the subscription.
 
If all the free to play games out there were so great why arent we off playing them right now? Why dont you have any memorable friends or have any love for playing those games? Why did you in the end abandon them and go banging the war dums asking for more free stuff somewhere else?
 
Is it possible those developers dont listen to their community, they dont develop actual game content, the people youre playing with have no money and no integrity. Not only are the spineless creeps but they lack coordination to push buttons on their keyboards and cant complete basic dungeons as a group. Well thats ok, they devs will just let you all swipe that credit card to get over the difficult stuff.
 
No wait everyone. I think instead of using the single shard technology that JC and Devs developed over the past few years isnt what we should do at ALL!
Lets make it like second life, well make private people run their own servers. The cost to licence the software from NQ will be set at $10,000 dollars a year.
Now youll also need a cloud capable server from a major provider, that wont be cheap looks like it costs about $1,200 dollars a month for a basic setup.
$24,400 a year to run your own private piece of the single shard dual universe game! HELL YEA FREE TO PLAY!
 
Now maybe you didnt want to setup your own slice of life and will just bum off of NQ's free space and make them handle all your character data.
 
So now you can log into the game, yep didnt have to buy a boxed copy! SO FREE!
Next up, if you want to wear anything other than the basic starter clothes. its 15$ for a shirt, 15$ for pants, 10$ for shoes, 5$ for hats, gloves, and other accessories.
so about 60-70$ to deck your character out with clothing.
You can make a second character, but to unlock a second character slot that will be 25$ per
 
All right, by golly, you got into the game, and you aren't totally naked anymore. I mean, you weren't forced to pay but you did anyway. so you spent 60$ in the cash shop in month one. but you arent done yet.
To leave Alioth youll have to pay $35 to instantly learn rocketry$ or You can pay 15$ to unlock a tech tree that trains over time but that will take 5 months to train, sorry the learning speed is reduced for players that dont pay a subscription.
 
So you think. hmm do i want to pay 35$ or wait 5 months and get griefed on Alioth and quit the game?
So you pay 35$
Month 1 expenditure. 95$, but its ok, its ok, nobody FORCED you to pay this.
 
 
 
I could go on like this forever, but do you all get the point yet?

Its all good, you want free to play? Ok Im out, no money from me. I've been waiting for years for a game worth playing that embraces a return to the subscription.
 
If all the free to play games out there were so great why arent we off playing them right now? Why dont you have any memorable friends or have any love for playing those games? Why did you in the end abandon them and go banging the war dums asking for more free stuff somewhere else?
 
Is it possible those developers dont listen to their community, they dont develop actual game content, the people youre playing with have no money and no integrity. Not only are the spineless creeps but they lack coordination to push buttons on their keyboards and cant complete basic dungeons as a group. Well thats ok, they devs will just let you all swipe that credit card to get over the difficult stuff.
 
No wait everyone. I think instead of using the single shard technology that JC and Devs developed over the past few years isnt what we should do at ALL!
Lets make it like second life, well make private people run their own servers. The cost to licence the software from NQ will be set at $10,000 dollars a year.
Now youll also need a cloud capable server from a major provider, that wont be cheap looks like it costs about $1,200 dollars a month for a basic setup.
$24,400 a year to run your own private piece of the single shard dual universe game! HELL YEA FREE TO PLAY!
 
Now maybe you didnt want to setup your own slice of life and will just bum off of NQ's free space and make them handle all your character data.
 
So now you can log into the game, yep didnt have to buy a boxed copy! SO FREE!
Next up, if you want to wear anything other than the basic starter clothes. its 15$ for a shirt, 15$ for pants, 10$ for shoes, 5$ for hats, gloves, and other accessories.
so about 60-70$ to deck your character out with clothing.
You can make a second character, but to unlock a second character slot that will be 25$ per
 
All right, by golly, you got into the game, and you aren't totally naked anymore. I mean, you weren't forced to pay but you did anyway. so you spent 60$ in the cash shop in month one. but you arent done yet.
To leave Alioth youll have to pay $35 to instantly learn rocketry$ or You can pay 15$ to unlock a tech tree that trains over time but that will take 5 months to train, sorry the learning speed is reduced for players that dont pay a subscription.
 
So you think. hmm do i want to pay 35$ or wait 5 months and get griefed on Alioth and quit the game?
So you pay 35$
Month 1 expenditure. 95$, but its ok, its ok, nobody FORCED you to pay this.
 
 
 
I could go on like this forever, but do you all get the point yet?

Its all good, you want free to play? Ok Im out, no money from me. I've been waiting for years for a game worth playing that embraces a return to the subscription.
 
If all the free to play games out there were so great why arent we off playing them right now? Why dont you have any memorable friends or have any love for playing those games? Why did you in the end abandon them and go banging the war dums asking for more free stuff somewhere else?
 
Is it possible those developers dont listen to their community, they dont develop actual game content, the people youre playing with have no money and no integrity. Not only are the spineless creeps but they lack coordination to push buttons on their keyboards and cant complete basic dungeons as a group. Well thats ok, they devs will just let you all swipe that credit card to get over the difficult stuff.
 
No wait everyone. I think instead of using the single shard technology that JC and Devs developed over the past few years isnt what we should do at ALL!
Lets make it like second life, well make private people run their own servers. The cost to licence the software from NQ will be set at $10,000 dollars a year.
Now youll also need a cloud capable server from a major provider, that wont be cheap looks like it costs about $1,200 dollars a month for a basic setup.
$24,400 a year to run your own private piece of the single shard dual universe game! HELL YEA FREE TO PLAY!
 
Now maybe you didnt want to setup your own slice of life and will just bum off of NQ's free space and make them handle all your character data.
 
So now you can log into the game, yep didnt have to buy a boxed copy! SO FREE!
Next up, if you want to wear anything other than the basic starter clothes. its 15$ for a shirt, 15$ for pants, 10$ for shoes, 5$ for hats, gloves, and other accessories.
so about 60-70$ to deck your character out with clothing.
You can make a second character, but to unlock a second character slot that will be 25$ per
 
All right, by golly, you got into the game, and you aren't totally naked anymore. I mean, you weren't forced to pay but you did anyway. so you spent 60$ in the cash shop in month one. but you arent done yet.
To leave Alioth youll have to pay $35 to instantly learn rocketry$ or You can pay 15$ to unlock a tech tree that trains over time but that will take 5 months to train, sorry the learning speed is reduced for players that dont pay a subscription.
 
So you think. hmm do i want to pay 35$ or wait 5 months and get griefed on Alioth and quit the game?
So you pay 35$
Month 1 expenditure. 95$, but its ok, its ok, nobody FORCED you to pay this.
 
 
 
I could go on like this forever, but do you all get the point yet?

Just ignore the OP. Monthly Subscription is way better than anything else.

Thanks Neo! I could have some fun with your avatar....hint, hint....