Dhara

The Outfit sounds more like a retail competitor to Hot Topic, than an actual pirate group. Are you guys hiring pale folk with a lot of piercings as well? Cause I don't know if that's a copyright infringement, and if it is, yarrrr away   :V


Pirate dissing aside, good work on the site. Real neat.
 

I approve of this message!
 
Website looks great also!

Well folks, after one final all-nighter, I finally have my organization and my website set up!!
 
 
Introducing...
 

 
 
https://community.dualthegame.com/organization/the-outfit
 
The Outfit is an organization of outcasts; including smugglers, merchants, traders, pirates, rogues and like-minded entrepreneurs. 
 
While a lot of things still need to be done yet, we have a private forum set up and are ready to start making new friends and building an awesome community. 
 
Please check it out and feel free to PM me with any questions. 

That is exactly the point.  For people to be able to design and build things in peace.  The risk comes later when you use those constructs in the world.
 
There could even be some kind of period of vulnerability where you could be attacked when you're deploying a blueprint in the world. 
 
But the fact is whether it's in a virtual simulation (instance) that is already being considered or in the protected bubble around the Arcs that is a confirmed feature, you aren't going to be able to pester people while they are building either way.  So i'd get over that.
 
As far as being able to access those instances offline i'm not against it, but i don't think it would be a simple thing technically speaking.  

As others have stated, blueprint construction mode would take away some of the emergent gameplay of finding a safe place to build and test constructs. 
 
On the other hand, if you think about the way vehicles and buildings are designed today, it is usually done first though 3D modelling and programs that can correct many problems even before the first prototype is built. 
 
So I do think some form of offline blueprint construction mode should exist, but in a very limited way. I.e. you can't use materials and elements that your character had not researched on last login and as was originally suggested,  the VR simulation could be very small in scale, say, only a small asteroid belt.
 
Ideally, I'd like to avoid this altogether and have it all take place online, but I do sympathize with not having a good internet 2/3 of the year. That sounds rough if you're into MMO's.

I would have no problem with them creating a stand-alone blueprint module where you can only create blueprints and then upload them into the game when you're done and ready for placement.  But any resource gathering, placements, etc should be done online. 
 
Sounds like something we should get as an add-on much later in development though.  Get the core game online and tweaked, and then start adding extras.

I would have no problem with them creating a stand-alone blueprint module where you can only create blueprints and then upload them into the game when you're done and ready for placement.  But any resource gathering, placements, etc should be done online. 
 
Sounds like something we should get as an add-on much later in development though.  Get the core game online and tweaked, and then start adding extras.

Actually, I can think of several scenarios where secret messages being sent ship to ship could be useful. 

Oops, didn't know I wasn't allowed to admit that I know stuff on these forums!  Wow.  So, sorry!  I'll keep that in mind next time and only post on threads that I know absolutely nothing about. My bad.  
 
Wait, will someone hand me my "God-complex and illusory superiority" cloak laying on the floor over there?  I should probably take it with me on my way out.
 
Thanks for the hug Lady Much appreciated.

As much as I hate to be in any kind of agreement with the twerkmonster, I don't think that this is going to be the issue that some of my comrades think it will be.
 
I understand your point Kik and I do agree to some extent.  I do not want to be an elite that tries to intimidate others from scripting.  I actually might like to be involved in helping teach others what I can.  I just have to try my best to convince you that Lua is not what you guys think it is. It is not some high level programming language. Scrpiters won't have some mysterious God powers and be able to tap into the server at will and gain any info or anything that they want.  It's just not going to be like that.  Coders will only be able to manipulate what the developers decide to let them manipulate.  And I don't think the devs are stupid enough to make it so programmers can code everyone else out of the economy. 
 
They WILL have brains though. And if they are creative enough, and come up with something awesome that no one thought of before, then they probably should allowed to shine?  Right?  I mean, we're all here to have fun.  What if I build the bestest voxel hideout ever and it sells like hotcakes and I  become filthy rich right off the bat.  Might not other players accuse me of taking advantage of MY skill?  I mean heck, I've been building in LM for two years now.  I'm betting there will be some who would think I have an unfair advantage.  But how do game programmers program a player's skill out of the game?
 
Look If we find some God-like scripter out there who is wreaking havoc on the universe, eating up all the money and resources and cutting everyone else out, then to me  that just sounds like a really good target to pursue.  Take out his resources.  Reverse engineer his creations and undercut him.  Take control of his territory and stop folks from shopping there.  I mean if he's really got a monster hold on the market like that, then I'm betting that many other groups would find him a tasty target too.  There will be many ways that we, as players, can effect the balance of the game too.  It's not all up to the devs or the coders in the game. 
 
Well, that's my two cents anyway.  And now I think I'm going to run and hide before my Legate catches me and strings me up. 

As much as I hate to be in any kind of agreement with the twerkmonster, I don't think that this is going to be the issue that some of my comrades think it will be.
 
I understand your point Kik and I do agree to some extent.  I do not want to be an elite that tries to intimidate others from scripting.  I actually might like to be involved in helping teach others what I can.  I just have to try my best to convince you that Lua is not what you guys think it is. It is not some high level programming language. Scrpiters won't have some mysterious God powers and be able to tap into the server at will and gain any info or anything that they want.  It's just not going to be like that.  Coders will only be able to manipulate what the developers decide to let them manipulate.  And I don't think the devs are stupid enough to make it so programmers can code everyone else out of the economy. 
 
They WILL have brains though. And if they are creative enough, and come up with something awesome that no one thought of before, then they probably should allowed to shine?  Right?  I mean, we're all here to have fun.  What if I build the bestest voxel hideout ever and it sells like hotcakes and I  become filthy rich right off the bat.  Might not other players accuse me of taking advantage of MY skill?  I mean heck, I've been building in LM for two years now.  I'm betting there will be some who would think I have an unfair advantage.  But how do game programmers program a player's skill out of the game?
 
Look If we find some God-like scripter out there who is wreaking havoc on the universe, eating up all the money and resources and cutting everyone else out, then to me  that just sounds like a really good target to pursue.  Take out his resources.  Reverse engineer his creations and undercut him.  Take control of his territory and stop folks from shopping there.  I mean if he's really got a monster hold on the market like that, then I'm betting that many other groups would find him a tasty target too.  There will be many ways that we, as players, can effect the balance of the game too.  It's not all up to the devs or the coders in the game. 
 
Well, that's my two cents anyway.  And now I think I'm going to run and hide before my Legate catches me and strings me up. 

Yeah, and this is whole point of "persistent world". If you deplete planet, you must either rob other players to obtain resources or colonize other planet. boyh things generate conflict and move economy - and both are generators of content. If planets will "respawn" we will get some kind of theme park, not a emergent game-play.

Yes Frycaptain I'm here to say hi to. Happy to be part of this organization and looking forward to working with all of you.
 
There now I have a first post xD

Thought I'd come in to say hi!  Happy to be a member of COPS.  Looking forward to the game!

And to further this, adding in-game communication solutions is never going to be a negative, and one shouldn't be going in with the assumption that everyone's just going to be using 3rd party solutions anyways

Actually, I can think of several scenarios where secret messages being sent ship to ship could be useful. 

I really can't see them not having comm channels we can create dedicated to fleet communication (and other ways). I'm so confident it'll happen I don't have hope for it; no need. =)
 
As for encryption I'll have you covered there. I'm sure there will be way and I can make it happen.

I'm not going to make any friends by saying this, but I don't think the LUA programming aspect should cater to the lowest common denominator.
 
There will be people in the game who are good at coding, so let them do the programming for the components that are sold on the market.
 
Making the programming aspects of the game cater to people who don't know anything about programming really just feels like another excuse to cater to people who don't want to have to interact with anyone else in the game ever. 
 
If you don't know how to program, find someone who does and pay them to do the work you need done, or learn how write code yourself. 
 
Sure there will be example bits of code provided for us, as NQ already stated, but don't cheapen the whole experience of programming by turning into a Visual Basic clone. 

I'm in the middle of building my own site where I will post my builds and such.  I am also adding  forum so we can start talking style guides and upload images and such.  I would be more than happy to open it up further so we can talk about a lot of other things too, if you guys want.  Should be done by the end of next weekend.
 
Or maybe I can just start a new one just for COPS instead?   If you guys want to do it, I can host it on my server and all I would ask is that someone get us a domain name so I can get started.  Take me about a week or so.
 
What do you think Kik?

I became interested just hearing about the game through word of mouth.  I've popped in a couple of times over the past six months or so.  I finally joined up when I was invited to join up with COPS.  I didn't realize this game was getting close to showing off anything, let alone less than a year from Alpha. 
 
The building is why I am here most of all.  Been messing around with voxels in another game and this one looks like a LOT of what is missing in that one will be included in this one.  I"m very excited about the freedom it looks like we'll have in this game  concerning how large we can build, where we can build, being able to team up and build with others...and so on. Very excited.

Yeah, I only brought in my brother.  It's actually amazing that we have grown so big already.  Very exciting stuff

I just don't know how building would work on a console either.  I don't mind if they want to make a different console version separate from the pc version, but please don't screw up the interface and bypass my keyboard so I can still play it on my pc.

I vote no for slavery!  Unless, of course, someone is offering to be MY personal slave?  Then that's TOTALLY different

Thank you, Dhara Elysande. First of her name. Pirate of the Coalition. Flyer of the dread ships.