Serula

We have been through wipe after wipe and major impactful changes in the last few years and it was never easy. I've rage quit myself a few times because of it. Taking things into perspective Having said that I can say that I'm 100% for any change needed to make DU the best it can be. Weather that means a full wipe or a partial one should depend on what that means for DU and not a few unhappy players. In the end if you want to achieve great things you have to go through the mud sometimes. Reward I remember some time in a long lost past I played a similar game. We had buildingcontests where people could win exclusive skins or decorations that were highly desired and admired. I think it might be a good idea to award everyone that has supported the development of DU with an exclusive skin or decoration. Final word Since the start of my DU journey a few years ago till today I still cannot see how it is possible to make DU fun without any form of NPC or survival element. And from the NQ video's I get the idea that even NQ doesn't know how to make it fun with it's current player only mantra. I have very little faith in this concept and I don't understand why it has to be this way other than that it's a lot of work to make. It may be a lot of work but also has a lot of reward if done right. In addition to that as a metaverse DU needs heavy social interaction features, there is none of that right now.

Hiiii NQ-Nyota, welcome to the community. I hope you will have a great time. ?

This all sounds very cool and interesting. I'm curious to how the alien cores will work and the space map. One question though. With the big ships being slower than smaller ships, how will L war ships still be viable now that smaller ships can also have an L shield? Sounds like they will only be usefull in a defensive situation.

Will players be able to donate org slots beyond the orgs current max slots, whatever those might be for the org at that time? That way player are able to grand a slot buffer in case slots are lost. I don't think any org would max out on their slots if they can't have a buffer beyond their max. And if that is possible will that buffer also be possible beyond the max of 1625 slots? And will players that donate the org slots be notified if they go beyond the org max slots?

That's where the sizable grid comes in. In a long lost past I had to make something similar where the input was very limited. In this case it might be more time consuming to enter three values than to navigate to it and it's also less intuitive for most people that are more into design rather than mathmatics or geometry.

It's in the video.

Good change but too much too fast In it's core I think this is a really good change and needed to happen. The only problem is that it is comming too fast and it's not balanced, especially not for the players that didn't use nested orgs to get more constructs. Now I won't be directly impacted by this change but I will have to use all my org cores to assist others. Meaning that my dream of ever owning a large epic space station just flew out the window. Fair number of slots If the max cores of a single org is 275. Then it seems to reason that every player should be able to contribute that many with max talents. Because that would have been the situation without the nested exploit. Now the slot cut is much bigger than that and I fear that will completely ruin the game for many. Monetization of slots If 275 org slots per player is still too much for DU then there should be a way to monetize this. This may not be a quick fix but having the option to upgrade your account and pay for example 5euro's for every 100 extra core slots would give many people some piece of mind. After all, all the org slots are now in the hands of players, an unreliable resource. It's like how streamers are dependant on subscribers for their income, it's very stressfull, and you don't want a game to be stressfull in that way. So depending on the reasoning for the larger than expected cut in core slots this monetization might need to be realized.

Very nice changes! I was also hoping for a slower efficiency drop over time too but we'll see how this goes. Spawning the nodes underneath the mining units might be a solution but im not sold on it yet. Maybe it's possible to enable detection with the alt + V menu like we see other players and constructs? That might be a better way to spread the rocks instead of stacking them under the mining units. The latter might motivate people to bot the harvesting. Place them in a line and dig a hole so all the nodes are at eye level behind each other and auto press the mousebutton with a macro.

Will this stress be visible? If yes, will it be repairable? If no, players will get an inventory full of nearly broken stuff because they don't want it to break during combat or important situations. Like for instance the antigravity engines on large ships. Instant ship gone if that happens. Based on that you probably want to see the stress. But if you can repair it there won't be a market for the elements and you end up with an inventory full of nearly broken stuff. Or you have to delete them. If things break in mid flight you might trash your ship. And if you have a lot of elements who is going to check them all? So nearly broken items will also need to be visible in a build helper list otherwise its another tedious mechanic if it's not already. What about a giant factory? Isn't that going to be super annoying to have to replace parts on a daily basis?

Apparently there are still collission problems. Or is this a different issue? 1266893313_2022-01-1402-48-46.mp4

Do you remember that time where you moved an element but couldn't but it back in the exact same place. Not even with the undo action? That seems to be all gone now. It was a big frustration of mine. I couldn't touch anything on my ship for the fear of not being able to put it back together again. Now I can see exactly where the problem areas are and fix my ship with a little effort. Is it the best solution? maybe not. But it's definitely a needed solution. We have to bite the bullet from time to time to help NQ make this game better.

The whole MU system is starting to burn me out. The problem is that you are implied to use all your charges and not waste any. It's a dopamine trap like many mobile games are. With the current implementation that means you have to calibrate every single day. I experience this as a somewhat stressfull time pressure. Ofcourse I have 3 alts so I have to spend more time on doing all the calibrations. Since the start of Demeter this is pretty much all I've been doing in DU and I didn't spend any time building. It's really difficult for me to ignore the addicting dopamine triggers but I managed to stop picking up all the surface ores because that was an incredible time sink. I really kinda want to stop mining like this all together but that also means no resources unless I go space mining which requires a very expensive scanner on a ship large enough to support it which I don't have yet and I'm also not looking forward to doing that because it's an even bigger time sink before I can start to mine anything. This mining mechanic is in my opinion compromising one of the few good gameplay systems DU has which is the building system. The simplest solution or at least a better implementation of this system would be to lower the speed at which MU's lose efficiency and also slow the speed at which we get charges so we only have to calibrate every few days or so. That opens up time to do other things. @anyone: How do you feel about the current state of gathering resources?

I was thinking about the exact same thing. You would get a seperate skill tree maybe even for each element or part. That way the choice for what you want to make becomes important and you can't quickly change to make anything else unless you are a long time player. Would that not be an issue?

Sure but where is your arguement? You are just relaying a feeling with no reason to back it up. Should it be easy to change a factory to produce anything? If not then how would you achieve that without quanta? Enforce a long timer between changing recipes?

It's often been discussed that schematics are a pain for anyone that wants to do industry. I understand the goal of the schematics was to make it more difficult and costly to build a factory so you have to commit to a specific product and not so easily be able to change it. I'ts not clear to me if this idea was based on how it works in real life or weather is was done to improve gameplay. Either way it feels as though something needs to change to make it more user friendly without sacrificing what seemed to be the initial intent of schematics. The idea Whenever you place an industry element you have to choose what it will produce and pay x amount of quanta to "repurpose" the unit to produce exactly that. Doing so might create "dynamic properties" on the element, like for instance with scripts in a cockpit or a screen. In this state it either cannot be picked up or it can but cannot be sold since it has dynamic properties. You can remove the dynamic properties for free so you can sell it but will have to pay again for setting anything that it will produce. This way it is easy to start a factory while still costing you and also promotes keeping the factory as it is. Nou obviously it depends on how the software works that will determin weather or not the unit will get dynamic properties or not but the general idea is that you pay for installing the item like schematics do and ideally still be able to pick it up so you can more easily reorganize your factory. This idea would be more closely related to reality however this would also take away the ability to steal schematics. But I don't think that is a big part of the gameplay yet. Stealing schematics would become much more interesting when territory warfare is in effect. Provided that people will actually make factories in the PVP zone.