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We have asteroids in safe zones.
But they are only t1 ore with occasional t2 or t3. 
So asteroids in safe zone are absolute waste of time, because you get more ore from any tile in alioth or sanctuary.
So yes we have them but they are useless.
While t3-t5 asteroids are in pvp zone.

There is grieve because currently 1 pvp organisation wipe everyone who try to gather on asteroids and if you even try to fight them, or destroy 1 of their ship, you will be welcomed in short time with another 20 ships at least.
Which means they rule over every asteroid in PVP zone, and NQ fails players and community in reacting to such situation.

Sadly NQ is incredibly arrogant and ignorant in their decision and they don't change their direction unless there is overwhelming feedback from players.
People are leaving the game but they still refuse to take action.
I even remember NQ Pann giggling how she love pew pew.
Too bad that vast majority of players except for whales, can't afford to "pew pew" because current meta is 
Large core ship with 5 advanced/rare/exotic lasers obliterating you from 2SU.
And to combat them you need at least 300 million quanta ship.(Good luck getting it in safe zone)

What's worse there is no tool to escape them or avoid them.
You can only minimise risk but sooner or later they will catch you.
Especially since they have multiple cores and radars around planets and script which alert them of any activity in region, so they have tools to track you.

So any1 who's not in legion is being butchered and can't do a thing about it.

Well there are 2 ways to do the asteroids.
Stick to safe zone asteroid as a content itself, but your better of mining on alioth.

There is no counter or a way to detect them.
You will die eventually. It's only a matter of when.

Second option is to wait untill someone scan then, then leave the ship in safe zone as close to asteroid as possible,
Jetpack to asteroid and got your nanopack worth of ore and come back to ship.
Repeat over and over.
So it's waste of time to be fair, but you can.

Coolness!  And thanks for the feedback!

I think it would be nice if it would.
In fact surface rock should grant more ore than just 20L considering amount of time required to harvest 1 rock.

In devblog from several months ago devs said they plan to rework surface mining and make it more lucrative, so who knows.
 

I like the idea, Eve have something like this.
But are you aware that vast majority of ships are made of plastic and aluminium?
How can you justify putting corrosion on it.
I think your idea is nice, however it would require alot of work from NQ.

@Hirnsausen
I have question to you mate.
You know that game is in terrible state right know, but you keep adding alot of ideas.
They are nice, but they are seriously optional!
Game lack alot of fundamentals elements and features and NQ is in serious lack of developers.
On top of it we have serious balance issues and things NQ have to rework first.
Once we deal with important staff, then we can ask them for optionals.
If you keep adding them work like this on their shoulders, how are they going to make a game better?

Trying to figure out where to start this. Do I start with the loot or the PVE aspect.  Because they are really dependant upon each other.  I suppose we should start with the PVE aspect of the game because its simple and clear. 
 
I know we are not getting fully fledged AI ships going around anytime soon.  Nor are we getting monsters to go shoot / hack at anytime soon.  However we should be able to get  emplaced defenses. IE an AI space station. that has automated turrets that fire at anything that goes near them.  This should be something very easy to do.  Heck players have practically created scripts  that already do this. 
 
Why would people go to these sites? for the loot of course.
 
So what kind of loot can we get ingame. Well the simple stuff like ore, elements, consumables, data items, elements, materials, parts.  Maybe even including exclusive rare and exotic's that can only be gotten at these sites. 
 
And that type of loot is all fine and dandy. But you need the type of loot that make people going out to raid for. You know the mythical sword of +10 magic damage, or the cloak of unseen. Now how do you translate that to a space game?  Modules.
 
Lots and lots of modules. The more module slots the better. Everything should have a module slot. From factory assembly machines. to fuel tanks, to engines, to weapons.  Slap that +10 damage module into your gun for increased damage. or +10 to range for increased range.  Add in a -10% to factory speed module to an assembly line to produce items faster. Or one that consumes or produces more materials or parts. 
 
Heck maybe the machines / elements that take modules can only be gotten from these sites.  Have these sites in PVP space. Require them to be scanned down. and once they are attacked they send out an alert that announces to everyone that the site is under attack which creates PVP encounters. 
 
These things put together create a system where players want to go out and explore, they want to go out and PVP. 

Unfortunately I am not sure that NQ will ever have the technical and financial capacity to run NPCs on the game ...
Maybe he'll surprise us with that one day. But it certainly remains a utopia.
 

I heard NPCs were not initially in NQ plans.
I do hope they add npcs and pve as this is my main gameplay in most of games.

@Hirnsausen
You need to understand one thing.
Just because you suggest a idea and you plan to use it in one way, doesn't mean everyone else will use it the way you want to.
Your idea can be exploited very easily and honestly sounds like exploit.
I'm ok with allowing self-destruct, but that shouldn't kill others.

I suggest making some slightly  lesser value asteroids available in the safe zone, and the more exotic ones in the PvP area.  That way, non-PvPers can still make money and gather resources, while those who want the exotics can arm themselves and see what they can do.  A self destruct device would unbalance the game IMO.
 
I'd love to mine some asteroids, but I'm not interested in PvP.
 
Thanks for reading!

I also didn't know that, thanks for the tip.

Yes i would love that.
Would be nice to actually manage blueprints in more aspects.

I'm not sure i understand the idea of it.
But it would be nice to being linked to several containers and select between them without manually doing it.

Like in real life, ingame blueprints should allow for some types of changes.  hose changes are permanent on the BP until being changed again. Possible with DRM-protected BPs and own BPs.

EXCHANGES (selct from a list of compatible materials)
- each type of honeycomb can be exchanged with another one (example: Matte Black Plastic to be replaced with Matte Yellow Plastic)
- each type of engine can be exchanged with another one of equal dimensions (example: Basic Space Engine S to be replaced with Advanced Military Space Engine S)
 
DELEITIONS
- any listed element type can be deleted entirely without any replacement
- any listed honeycomb type can be deleted without replacement (though this can lead to slightly distorted shapes of remaining honeycombs in cases of voxel artist work)

With your mining tool out press ctrl V to turn off interactive markers.  

I completely respect your pacifism and agree with many of your views.
 
However many if not the majority of people enjoy combat in the gaming industry. Not because they enjoy griefing other people but because there is a certain disconnect from seeing it as violence but rather a set of challenges, strategic thinking and battle of skills and will’s.
 
When people have expensive ships or even reputations at risk a certain adrenaline rush can kick in while playing combat making some of the most exciting moments in the game. To limit this would be like putting a 5mph speed limit on a roller coaster. 
 
Dual Universe simply needs healthy and most of all competitive / fun combat systems if the game can even hope to be successful enough to keep the lights on and the servers open.

There is no problem with active mining as an element in the game.
Eve is great example of that.
NQ took many elements of the game but decided to make mining by them self and it fails.
NQ is not aware about how bad this mechanic is because they don't do it.

Mining can be fun, but current mining have to be replaced with something less annoying.
For me the mining is not a problem, it's finding the ores that piss me off.
Most of time you spend digging dirt and trying to find node, only to find 2500L nod.
In eve you don't care, you can switch between rocks within 1s.
In starbase you always have similar amount of ore, and you can judge the amount of ore, on size of asteroid(Imageine that!).
Another example is mining in ED, there is lots of people who do it for fun.
Imagine giving us a some kind of explosive material, then turning it on and seeing big freaking explosion fallowed with exposing the ores.
I guarantee you that lots of people would mine because it would be fun to blow things up and get nodes pop.

It is not that we normal players would disturb you PVP guys. It is, that you PVP guys disturb us any time we venture out to harvest T3 to T5 ore. Our vessels are unarmed, Mr. Somali Pirate. Yet, you dare to disturb us, to attack us, to destroy our unarmed ships and kill us.

YOU PVP guys are the disturbance. Your way of thinking and acrting is the problem. As I say, a real Somali Piratte by nature. Legion and other PVP orgs are just nothign better than ingame Somali Pirates. Thrash of the society, or here the digital society. I am just speaking out loudly what most normal humans think. We have many discussions about Legion and other PVP groups. here is just no "love" for you and your sort. Somali pirates are the bottom of the society.

Here is the problem as we see with Knight_Sevy's latest posting: PVP guys always think, each and every game is made just for them. Destruction and weird behavior everywhere. Even the headline of this thread shows, how much PVP guys consider this game as be be made just for them: "Legion has Won DU".

But that is not so. It is not that 80% of all DU players are PVP players. It is, indeed, that the real amount is 20%.  But these 20% want to claim all 100% of the T3 to T5 resources for themselves.
I am so tired of their Somali Pirate mentality.

PVP has nothing to do with any "right to take things away from others". I stand by my proposal: Only on armed ships it can be fired upon. If a ship is armed, that means the owner or crew wants to participate in PVP. I understand, that our strong, rough PVP "heros" are too afraid to attack armed ships only as that could mean a strong response and even loss of the own ship. But is that not what PVP is about? Destruction and loss? So, let 'em kill each other so they have their weird fun. But also, fill the Unsafe Zone with other dangerous challenges so it is not just weird PVP alone that can endanger ship and life.

No it's PVE game with added PVP mechanics.
Remove PVP period.
You can't tell me that Eve online combat mechanics are appropriate for spacesim like DU.
It's just stupid from NQ to adapt that kind of combat in game like this.
Remove freaking pvp untill they decide to actually spend time on adding it properly.
I just want to go and mine in peace on asteroids, and i don't want to give a crap about grievers.
Want pvp game go play apex or pubg or other game with pvp as main focus.
Prove me i'm wrong but if u spend 99% of ur time on doing pve just to do 1% of ur time pvp, then something is wrong with ur game.

What the hell is meant with element stacking?
 
placing windows side by side and they actually overlap at the edges as you are building a triangle?
placing 10 containers against eachother? placing 4 ailerons on top of each other?  placing 2 landing gear beside each other? placing a break on a hover? placing an adjuster on an engine? placing an adjuster on a brake/window/cargo/etc?
 
We need clarification
 

I have quit the game as have everyone else I know of.  This game has been dying since .23 and they are making another PUNISH THE PLAYERS initiative that very well might drive the last nails in the coffin!     During .23 you lost more than 40% of the player base on the first day. why did NQ not learn from this ?   O well this game had so much potential which is now squandered.   
 
Here is my feedback for @nq    You have been and are tone deaf.   The reason so many of us quit playing the game is you kept nurfing engines and mining.    Then you add all these animations that cause even more lag without giving us a way to turn if off!    Stacking elements is the only way we had to not create huge engine walls.  if you start deleting peoples ships without warning including the ones NQ promoted you will only loose more players!   I am so glad I don't play this game anymore because NQ is going to kill it.  Here is for the VOCAL Minority in the game.  Keep it up and help NQ kill the game.  Most of us have moved on now so we don't care. 
 
Good bye DU  it was fun while it lasted.   
 
 

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Woukld be helpful if ships can only attack armed ships. So they get their destruction, while unarmed ships can do mining. That should be totally okay for PVP guys, as they love confrontation and destruction. So, let them have their confrontation and destruction among themselves.   ?

If they are really just abput PVP, this should be okay for them.

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