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    Pre-Alpha Inspiration Thread

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    . Agreed. I think it's important to remember that this is a dream many of us have had. The technology may not have existed, but thanks to JC for going where no other developers have gone to, now it does. 

     

    And thanks to the all  ATV and founders for supporting the game we were able to make this possible, and secure investors. It's my hope that DU sets a new standard. 

     

    if I remember correctly, all founders will get special credits/thanks, so we should remember that we are all ambassadors to this dream. 

    Idea to make people wait productively

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    At OP 

     

    Please keep in mind that this game isn't a free-for-all. You're perfectly free to learn under a founder and what they themselves have learned. Also, there will be a lot of changes I'm sure when the alpha and beta hits. What worked in alpha may not work well for the beta. 

     

    You have time to catch up and time to learn from others. I'm sure that you will still be able to build your own special things, and that you won't allow being a little late to the party demoralise you. 

     

    Carry on wayfarer ?

    Game time suggestion

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Lights said:

    And yet another, unironic post about wanting free stuff

    This post really confuse me. 

    I never asked for anything to be given for free. 

     

    1 hour ago, CaptainTwerkmotor said:

    With another OP agreeing with only the people (1 or 2 at best) and calling everyone else wrong.

    It's like poetry with these kind of threads, they HAVE to follow a certain pattern.

    Firstly, I can agree with whatever amount of people I want to, and never said everyone else were wrong. I actually accepted counters and reasonable arguments. Don't be sour now because yours isn't one of them. 

    Game time suggestion

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    I didn't open the thread with intentions of sparking drama or forum necromancy. As you probably can see, I haven't been on the forum a hell of a lot but when I searched I did not see anything like this mentioned. 

     

    3 hours ago, CaptainTwerkmotor said:

    @LurkNautili

     

    The DAC system is their more revenue. There will always be people who want to buy from Gold Farmers, NQ might as well do what it can to be the one to benefit from such thing AND the people who play the game as well, instead of a dude in Finland who runs 15 bot accounts on his private server and just farms money in-game and sells it, with NJQ seeing no income and having to hammer down on said bot farmers.

    The DAC system solves the revenue issue. If EVE has 300K subscribers and is healthy with the PLEX system. NQ can do so uch more with the range of playstyles it has - unlike EVE. 

    The OP's idea of a "Fair" sub system is the same old regurgitated topic which eventually ,only benefits gold farmers if it's implemented, cause DACs have no meaning afterwards.

     

    Feel free to argue over dry ink, NQ won't such a stupid business move.

    While I think your rent analogy is completely inaccurate here, as your belongings and the agreement that no one else lives in your space while it's yours, I do appreciate what you offered to the discussion regarding bots and gold farming. 

    2 hours ago, LurkNautili said:

    I'm not even sure where to start parsing that series of malformed sentences, non sequiturs and straw men disguised as a forum post.

     

    You seem to be implying that a pay-as-you-go type model would somehow result in gold farmers providing access to the game for free to people or something... I'm not quite sure. You're confusing two distinct topics here by bringing up in-game currency. The only people who can produce DACs are NQ, therefore they get revenue for them being produced. The gold farmers, regardless of how they pay for their access to the game, still have to pay for their access. The quanta that they farm can be exchanged for e.g. RL currency (illegal), or DACs in game, but once again, that will only affect the DAC to quanta exchange rate, the price of DAC (in €/£/$) and the revenue NQ gets from them won't be affected by any of that.

    Agreed. Glad to see that someone else sees what I see. That's my point exactly, a pay as you go system is already at work. It doesn't matter much if it's pay for the month or pay for the week/day. 

     

    Nothing I've said here suggests anything not fair for novaquark or the players. So I'm not sure the point or subtle argument on the quotations around the word "fair". NQ gets their money, and the players pay for access. I've yet to see a valid counter argument (imo) other than your things still existing in the game. Perhaps hourly is too much to ask while, but is a biweekly option too much of a hassle and headache? Paying monthly is still pay as you go, however you look at it the amount of time you pay for. Unless NQ implemented yearly contracts like mobiles, it's pay as you go already. No one is obligated to pay for the following month even if your things are still existing in the virtual world. 

     

    If you're going to contribute, please give a healthy discussion and debate, not just "I don't like it and it's stupid". 

    Game time suggestion

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    33 minutes ago, Lethys said:

    Your constructs (bases, ships, ...) stay in the game 24/7. As your skills need to be stored and tracked 24/7. 

    We had this discussion already in several posts over the years

    Ok, so your things in the game  are still using service at some level, even if it's server space. 

     

    I can accept this response, it's a reasonable argument. 

    silver account - alpha?

    in Idea Box

    Posted

    Unless you already have a gold account at this point, or are ATV, you cannot get access to the pre-alpha this sept 30th. 

     

    You will need to wait until beta or upgrade your support level possibly to get access to the next stage, alpha when they open supporter packs for sale 

    Game time suggestion

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    49 minutes ago, Haunty said:

    You're just going around the point I made without mentioning my other 2 examples, which was that I have to pay by month, so yes it does count. And my minimum electricity charge is $40 (3-4 times a DU sub).

    The other two weren't necessary, as they were still the targets of what I was speaking of. Providing examples of others that does A isn't an argument against or for doing A. 

     

    The United States should execute people 

     

    Why though? 

     

    Because China and Saudi Arabia does... 

     

     I think that you should pay for what you use, I'm sorry if you feel that is... too unfair? And if you pay a 40 service fee for electric, I honestly hope that you can find a better provider. 

     

    52 minutes ago, Stoat said:

     

     

    I think you can find that discussion here! Novaquark Monetization.

     

    Thanks stoat 

    Will ALPHA (not pre) servers be up 24/7?

    in General Discussions

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    24 minutes ago, Lenux said:

    No im not trolling im serious x) I think the pre-alpha will be more like a test phase for the server 

     

    Ok, cool. It seemed like at first you were using some advanced sarcasm like... "SURE one day is plenty of time to test all these features". I was dying in laughter. 

     

    But I agree, 1 day I'm sure will help a ton. Hopefully there will be more time in the future though 

    Game time suggestion

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    Posted

    12 minutes ago, Haunty said:

    Both, there's a minimum access charge.

    True, but I don't think the few dollars or so counts in the big picture. Of what we're speaking of. 

     

    14 minutes ago, Shockeray said:

    While this system may work for some games, the devs have already said several times that it isn't how the payment plan is going to work in DU and there was a really large discussion just last week (I think) on the forums about a very similar alternate payment method. (You may find the arguments interesting, it wasn't really my thing., too much drama mixed in.)

    Ok, thanks for the heads up. I'll see if I can find that

    Game time suggestion

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    31 minutes ago, Haunty said:

    I don't think it's necessary and very few people would find it useful. I mean it's only $10-$15 for unlimited time for 1 month. If real life happens and I can't play for half a month, I'll eat that cost. Just like I would with my Internet, Netflix, electricity etc. bills. And in those rare cases maybe you can just contact NQ support and ask if they can suspend the account and give you pro-rated refund, I think that would make more sense than complicating the whole pay model.

    I'm sorry, but you pay for access to electricity and utilities or what you actually use? 

     

    I think it's a very simple concept, that ensures that everyone gets 100% of what they pay for. It's not changing the pay model at all, it's just adding the function 

     

    "+tick when online" 

    Game time suggestion

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    So, I don't know if this has been something already discussed or not, but I haven't seen it anywhere or on other MMOs for the most part. 

     

    So this is more or less a suggestion/idea from people who have really inconsistent schedules or important things to do on the fly. Whether they may be firefighters, military, essential police somewhere there are few, and etc. 

     

    The idea is simple. Have game-time actually mean game-time. Or maybe the better term is play-time for some people. What I mean by this is that you only use your game-time while actually playing the game. To me it seems like a simple idea that would help a lot of people out who suddenly have something to do, or just a big change to their schedule for the week /month. So they don't lose what they actually paid for. 

     

    Maybe that person is a soldier who just finds out that he is getting deployed in a few days, right after he/she has purchased/redeemed a DAC. (yes I've personally been in this situation with game time before). Or maybe it's just some Joe who buys 30 days but only plays for a week of actual time due to emergency calls. Why should their "game clocks"  still be ticking if they aren't playing? I know it's not much of a technological stretch to keep track of the hours people play. I know that there are others who would like to support these essential personnel. I know that many knows that it's the big corporations that just want more people's money. 

     

    What do you guys have to say? You guys think that it's absolutely impossible to pay monthly bills/expenses this way? To me it seems like a simple question of the amount of players, daily revenue, and average play time. I mean sure tons of people could suddenly stop playing and throw a basic matter of equations off, but couldn't that happen in any payment system? 

    (Discontinued)

    in Idea Box

    Posted

    Usually, its not a stretch for me to buy 1 full price AAA game a month, lets say its $59.99 USDs (idk what it is in euros sorry).

    So I thought about what level of backing I wanted, and what I personally wanted to invest to help the game. I knew I wanted

    as much possible play time as I could get, and I would have chosen Ruby for the lifetime, but I opted and decided for me it was more worth

    investing the DACs digital Sapphire provided (especially if they grow in value). If 4 years of playtime isn't enough time to start having what I put together

    to earn future DACs for me, I probably have bigger problems to worry about :/

    Anyways, I simply chose to not buy any new games for like 4 months, and I realized Sapphire wasn't REALLY that much of a loss for me, especially if the game

    wasn't coming out during that wait time anyway... Plus, its a game I've always wanted to see a reality, it's worth every dollar I put in to help make it a reality...
    I've even considered buying some IRL friends Gold founders or just spare Gold accounts that I could give out to friends as I saw fit. No one took me up in time though...

    Anyways, truth is, if you couldn't save $140 or so in the 9+ months (since just this year at least), I'd seriously say you have bigger priorities that you should be working on more than this game.

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