Doombad
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2 hours ago, Evoson said:
Think about it unless you gather all things needed and build without buying or selling off others it will affect you . Also eventually DACs will cause inflation . Your progress towards the goals you want in game will be affected , your goals is you winning if you just want 2 to 5 tiles and gather all stuff make all stuff and do not trade with others sure you could build up to what you want and be satisfied but it may take a while . But if you trade with others you will be affected and your goals take longer .
I don’t see that as winning or losing. There is no first place.
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22 hours ago, Evoson said:
Most people know there will be a much needed wipe before release and DACs released . I have been playing since about 4 months after beta start . Shortly after I started playing I heard they were going to do DACs I was kind of put off by it because it is like pay to win kind of deal . I have seen this kind of system ruin some games before you will have people buy their way to progress then it ruins the economy markets kind of like people that got lots of beta accounts or subbed 10 or more accounts to exploit mission system . I do not do that I feel its more of accomplishment to have one or two accounts and not game the system to further wealth in game ; I only have one DU account . I know one person in real life that would buy $300 dollars worth of DACs in month just to say oh look at me look how far I got just to show off ; then they would not have money for real life bills or stuff for their kids . I know it will be a money maker for DU but I do not agree with its use and I quit other games for its use because it is pay to win kind of deal , then people bragging oh I got this or that it is like oh please you basically bought that with real money in a sense using DACs . So in summary I do not like the DACs system it is pay to win but maybe if they limited it to like you can buy 3 DACs per month to sell it would be better than unlimited and I have quit some games because of them .
Also here come gold sellers and account sellers which is against TOS . Oh great this crap again in another game .
Help me understand how you win.
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1 hour ago, Atomi7 said:
NQ(unsolicited): Hey, we're thinking about deleting all your stuff.
Me: wha-
NQ: See ya next month!
Try two months if we are lucky. 🤦♂️
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On 5/15/2022 at 2:11 PM, Gottchar said:
Assuming they want to wipe, they would want to
A: do it with the release
B: not annouce it long before the actual wipe, as that would mean even fewer people play.
So if the release is planned for eg october, and they want to wipe then, it is a good idea to not tell us already.
If they had decided on not wiping however, they would have told us. So, we can take their silence as a yes.This exactly. NQ silence = confirmation of wipe and they are delaying any official word so (more) people don’t quit.
Personally, I find this disrespectful and unprofessional.
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On 5/15/2022 at 1:53 AM, Sabretooth said:
NQ's wipe is like: someone you love but everytime you ask him/her to start a relationship he/she says 'I dont know'. Asking every day for a month and still: I dont know...
Can we just date, can we just be friends on Facebook? I dont know...
So the thing imma trying to say is how lots of (ex)players are acting on this forum. Its almost pathetic to read and see.
Dont you guys get the message??? Make up your minds and continue with your lives!
No means no!!
I myself renewed my sub in January, 8 days later the pancake-wipe update was introduced to me and I instantly quit. I am a grown man over my 40s and I do not fool around. The deathmeter-wipe put me on the edge and the pancake-wipe pushed me over.
I wish all the ppl who play and who dont play lots of fun, but people please.... Be a sensible adult and quit being stubborn.
Makes me sad, but I think you nailed it. I think the slowing forums show others are getting what you said as well.
- Zarcain and Sabretooth
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Wiping beta accounts is bad enough. Wiping paid accounts is another level of bad.
Further delays in announcing their bad decision is beyond ridiculous and completely unprofessional.
I am curious how many people are still playing.
such a missed opportunity for NQ. Absolute fools running this disaster.
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On 5/11/2022 at 8:23 AM, Haunty said:
If they choose not to decide, they still have made a choice
I can’t believe NQ is this indecisive. I think they are only delaying the announcement.
I will also say the delay announcing is terrible.
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On 4/27/2022 at 11:41 PM, Jinxed said:
I really just don’t understand why miners and industry territory beacons, weapons AGGs, warp beacons don’t require fuel to run.
They are perpetual engines.
even NMS has better fuel and power management gameplay than this game, and that’s a casual minecraft like game.
imagine if it actually required copious amounts of energy to keep everything running. Balanced correctly that would keep things in check far more than stupid taxes and keep consumption rates high.
element maintenance requiring bolts, pipes and chambers etc should obviously be a thing. Every x hours a component on your ship needs one or more of the parts it’s made from replacing. Leaving it unmaintained would cause it to degrade and eventually need replacing.
the gameplay could be simple like repairing but instead of just scrap, it needs the actual parts in your active container.
Or it could be more involved like swapping the parts with working parts (using a new swap tool) and taking the broken parts to a dedicated service station
even these alone would ensure greater need for parts and services.The concept of power would be great. Space Engineers model would be simple and effective.
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5 minutes ago, CyberDay said:
Your assuming that only one person is doing missions. There will be multiple(5+) orgs that are unrelated/not on good terms with each other doing this sprint. People already tried the "evil space empire holding everything" thing, it gets REALLY boring REALLY fast because eventually no one cares. There is no "bonus" or giant gain from pvp. Sure plasma exists, but if we are going to be real, no one but the 1% that actually pvp really care for exotics. Sure people will want beacons, but supply of plasma is more likely to be way over exceed the demand. No one buys anything off the market because our ore requirements are filled by our own autominer fields. If the dude next to me has 100 warp beacon schematics, honestly, it has 0 effect on me. I bought 1 at full price and between me and some friends, we make enough for our network. We go out and shoot at people. I throw ore at people because my autominers containers fill up. There is no consumption. That is the issue, not some evil top 1% wanting to keep the people down. There is no end game loop. Wiping only pushes the issue back a few months, that's it. Until they have a loop that can hold people's attention and not totally rely on player made "content" that now we cant be sure is ever safe, they won't succeed.
Everyone's goals are different, some people don't care if someone has 100 warp beacons in deep space so they can be anywhere. Its a sandbox, there is no real "end game". Your goals are what you set for yourself. Kinda sucks in a way though because there is no real bite to stay for anyone but creatives, and most of them would rather play something that give them the resources they want to use, although some do like the "survival" type of games as well.
In a way, keeping what the creatives have built provides the infrastructure for which PvP'ers can leverage when PvP comes to bear in game. Wiping it out pushes everything out.
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2 hours ago, Cergorach said:
Are you one of those people that, if they don't see it, it doesn't exist? You work in a nuclear reactor without any protection because you don't see the radiation?
The 'reasonable prices' and the 'ore inflation is over' is a direct impact of the 'super rich' (in ore and quanta).
Example:
Let's see, if after the wipe I can produce 5+ million ore per week, that would pretty much flood the market when there's not much quanta in the economy. When I mission 100+ million in quanta per week, I have way more quanta then the regular DU player who is struggling to mine enough ore to make his starting stuff. You can easily control the ore market and with that, a lot of the element market. How exactly would you compete with me? So producing stuff would not be very profitable, if at all. You build a couple of containers to sell, I race you to the bottom with a 100 fold of your items, when we reach the bottom I buy your stock with all the quanta I have and reset my prices high again...
Now imagine being one of the first corps to get your hands on the first DU weapons, you can control most asteroids, alien resource nodes, and probably the space routes. There goes all the asteroid mining outside of the safe zone (higher end ore), missioning outside safe zone becomes dangerous, etc. Being the first to Warpdrives and warp beacons, the first to alien resource points, etc. You don't see it, but it has a big impact on the game.
Your first issue will be that things aren't as cheap anymore as you're used to. Some stuff might not even be available or in a price range you can afford the next year or so. Things like warpdrives... Good slowboating to another planet, especially if it's outside the safezone...
Things are CHEAPER than what they were during the period of ore inflation.
Your last paragraph is why people don’t want the wipe.
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5 hours ago, Cergorach said:
If you think that, you're foolish!
It has had huge impacts on players, from market pvp, to actual pvp, etc. It's just not directly visible. The moment those players interact with players or stop interacting with players it can have an impact. The scope of misuse of some of the exploits was massive. It might be mitigated by the possibility that many of the people that misused the exploits left the game a while back...
Even legitimate game loops that where poorly thought out like the missioning system or the huge (returning) NPC orders devalued the quanta enormously. The Meganode mechanic created huge stocks of ore that weren't sold, with the introduction of autominers the potential of that was hugely underestimated by both devs and players. We now have very cheap ore. Quanta and ore value have a huge impact on the average player (either positively or negatively).
I also think that people overestimate and underestimate the effect a wipe will have on them. I suspect that the players complaining the loudest will have the hardest time after an ore/construct/quanta wipe, and the folks that are already space rich will have get even richer faster. While the missioning system will change after the patch/wipe, it can still be very heavily used to earn quanta. The automining system has had no changes, beyond limiting core counts (limiting the amount of mining locations you can exploit), but it's still very overpowered if you know what you're doing and are dedicated...
Everything changes, it all stays the same...
Do you even play the game? I ask because I have played consistently since beta started. I play solo. I am not rich and I have what I need and it took me a while to get where I am. I have seen no impact from super rich. I see a slow market with reasonable prices (now that the ore inflation is over).
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1 hour ago, adalaire said:
a lot of explooiters went nuts exploiting and are just desperate to see it not get undone. Apparently they'd rather seethe game die than wipe. Which it should do before release anyway
Beats me but I can tell you I see no material advantage to those who are super rich or exploited to get super rich.
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1 hour ago, adalaire said:
There were an insane amount of exploits that let people get to endgame within the first week, so I stopped playing. My friends and I check in on the game periodically to see if it will wipe. If it does, we'll play, if not, we won't. Simple as that. I know a lot of other people in the situation.
So it looks like the choices are A: Don't wipe and keep the small minority of plays you have now, many of whom obtained unfair advantages via exploitation, or B: Wipe and massively expand the player base.Yea and you will quit soon after for one reason or another. While wrong, exploits had/has virtually no impact on other players. It’s just an excuse.
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We already have a soft wipe happening. Reclaiming cores and tiles becoming free to requisition when people don’t pay or go inactive.
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Welcome additions.
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9 hours ago, Endstar said:
So what happens when there is a new bug that creates DAC duplication?
A lot of the chatter and reasoning I see from NQ is around a wipe being a cure all to sins/bugs/exploits of the past...Problem is these are not sins of the past they are the realities of running a live service based game and all I see so far is that if something happens post release the answer is to just wipe the game as that has been the answer in the past.
NQ wipes again of course!
….Apparently….
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On 4/17/2022 at 8:13 PM, yamamushi said:
EDIT:
Message removed for advertising another game in a thread dedicated to feedback on Dual Universe. We can understand you're upset about changes in the development of Dual Universe and we're thankful for all the involvement you had in the Dual Universe community during several years. If at some point you want to come back on the game, you will be welcomed. However, all this doesn't give you the right to have such behavior on the forum.
Disappointing. I was just looking for this post So I could check at what this game was about.
Candidly, NQ is going to sit quiet a bit longer because they have proven woefully incompetent with the community.
They will wipe the servers. Some people will come back, then quit again after a month or two because it is still not the game for which they are looking.This, combined with the people who left because of the wipe lead to DU’s failure, which will be a damned shame.
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53 minutes ago, Jurekiedi said:
I can say with certainty I will be back if there is a wipe.
I love to see how many quickly dismiss a wipe as being unable to fix the issues of equality given that in x months we would be in the same position. In my opinion the reason a wipe is needed is to clean the slate from the previous exploits and unintended mechanics that have allowed certain parties to gain an unfair advance without these being rectified at the time.
The schematic issues are a prime example of a time where some players who happened to be in the right place at the right time or had prior knowledge were able to exploit an error and profit a significant amount as a result. Whilst the exploit was fixed there was no balancing of the funds gained by these players which ended up having a fairly significant impact on several alliances.
I keep asking this question. How does the inequality affect you?
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3 hours ago, FuriousPuppy said:
the DU player count was rock bottom before the wipe was announced. They really dont care if you are happy or not because the goal is to get back to 450k players not 1k or less that its currently at. I already spend my money elsewhere, im just here for the dumpsterfire that is NQ
I feel like it bounced a bit and was gradually getting better. The recent wipe talk has been rough. I am sure NQ has the metrics to see the impact.
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On 4/19/2022 at 3:44 AM, blazemonger said:
I would really not be surprised if NQ actually thought that their post was a porper response to the issue and they ticked the "update on wipe" box off the list.
By en large the community is well aware it was just throwing more fuel to the fire but hey.. what do we know.. /s
You know you are 100% right.
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10 hours ago, Nayropux said:
I have two issues with this, but they are the same two issues I have with most of the arguments from the no wipe camp.
1. I can find far more instances, both before and after beta launched, of NQ saying that a launch wipe was possible, and that they would try to avoid it. Given that, I do not think the one or two mentions of no wipe constitutes any kind of promise of not wiping; at best you could say they were incredibly inconsistent in their messaging.
2. The objective is not to wipe because players are too far ahead. Obviously that would require a yearly wipe, since people will always be ahead. No, the point is how the players got ahead, even ignoring the exploits. Two major income sources are being removed or nerfed for launch that were in during beta: meganode mining, and alt mission running. The reality is that players who used these features are not just ahead, but are ahead in such a way that it is not feasible for anyone who comes after to even come close. New players cannot join and repeat the same methods older player used to get rich, and are in for a much, much, longer grind.
Otherwise, good post. People are being way too negative about this.
The point with wealth is that the super uber ridiculously rich don't affect other players. I have yet to even hear of a case where this were the case. So, who cares if there are some people with game-lasting wealth if it doesn't affect other players.
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1 hour ago, BlindingBright said:
NQ has slapped a few peoples wrists today... Just gotta make funnier memes? So far I've had zero warnings for the memes I've made, and I've made some spicy ones. Maybe the powers that be at NQ still leiks me, idk. Will say that before this mess I was more "constructive" in my posting on the forums, now it's mostly satire to stoke the flames of constructive discussion. Though the line between satire & trolling is pretty thin....
From the sounds of it several people have been reprimanded in the last few hours on the forums. The sad thing, instead of working to communicate and work with their community to resolve the issue(they created through multiple wipe mentions without an answer, and continue to pick at the scab!) they let it fester like a wound... day after day. and now their stop-gap is to start reprimanding people that are upset for what I see as largely legitimate reasons... for many MMO's are hobbies, and playing for many is a hobby due to the time investment.
This is the first time playing a game where I've been this upset with the developers... have wanted to tell them how it is and well... doom/gloom. Have written a couple things out and was like 'Nah, this is just over the line' and figured "if I didn't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"... which is sad, I love DU, the community at large, and there are several key developers I think are legitimately trying to make it work under not the most ideal conditions on a tech/platform that does something no other game really does with pieces that no other platform uses.
Feels bad man.I can think of one time way back when SWG was gutted and the majority of players left. It never recovered.
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It’s just aggravating and disrespectful.