Lethys
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1 hour ago, GraXXoR said:
Because it never turns ugly in Eve and everyone be gets on like a house on fire. Especially after things like CO2’s gutting and GigX’s meltdown... not the best way to give no fucks: giving out RL beheading threats and getting permabanned.
saying Eve community will always be superior to this one is basically just a blanket insult to all the members on this forum, some who have worked hard to make DU better.
But yeah, you should probably just go back to Eve since it’s such a bastion of humanity compared to the Mos Eisley that is DU forums..
I don’t even know why you bother to hang around with a group you clearly have zero respect for. Masochistic tendencies, perhaps?
Yup, some ppl always need to exaggerate. Just like here in DU. Those kids are everywhere.
No thanks, I will pester this community for a long time. Lifetime sub and such
1 hour ago, GraXXoR said:He claims he was semantically correct by insisting selling or buying plex / ISK is illegal.
Much dense huh
But at least it doesn't matter anyway what you think because luckily these sort of things are ok in du. So I wish you fun with the "bad toxic antisocial and du destroying part" of the community. May someone awox you too and may I hear you later complain about a perfectly fine gameplay aspect of this...."game"
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8 minutes ago, Jizzlobber said:
Given how absolutely toxic you lot are, good and good riddance. I backed this game very early on, forgot about it until after .23 dropped, and just now getting into it and you vets are CANCER. Most toxic community I have ever seen, and as a life-long gamer, that's saying something. I would say you lot are driving more people away than lack of features, support, or any other thing you want to whine and cry about. Every time I come here looking for info, I want to uninstall. First post btw, because all you vets cry and whine so much, people like me don't even want to participate ffs.
Never intended to get anyone new in here nor ever suggested this game to anyone. Because, guess what, it's just not very good. Maybe in some years, who knows.
NQ ignored good feedback for years, didn't communicate, never told us how and what they want to do, only fed the hypetrain and left players with hope, yet never delivered. Since I got ruby and a lifetime sub, Ill speak my mind regardless of what you think about it and will stay here for a loooooooooooooooong time xD hf
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Just now, Skimus said:
But did you appreciate the new grass?
Ofc I did. When I finally was able to look around.
Checked my talents (188days left) and deleted du again. No use in playing a mmo when it lags af. Maybe tackle that first. Oh wait, hasnt improved for me for the past 5 years
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Yup, just installed du for the lols again. After 20 min instead of the usual 30min, I could see all the constructs at the market. Not move tho, cause it lagged much. But at least it's pretty.....
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1 minute ago, Blacksunshine said:
We all ways need new players, Think the old player gave it a whirl and it didn't pan out for them. or the schems might of really hurt allot of players and they dont want to bother with re doing there indust that they put time into. the old players if they wanna come back cool but we don't need them it'll take a new player over a old player. A old player jumps on and knows everything and is pissed off cause now they know nothing, but still thinks that what they knew should be. A new player really doesn't know what to know. You know
don't worry, as long as NQ can't provide basic kickstarter goals they promised, vets won't come back xD
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was expected after the newsletter in february. not rly a big deal tho, missions don't really do anything. won't be a huge faucet, will only shift money between players and most of them will be: "bring me 245234652362624564325624562562456 kl of X" .... which can be done now too via the market.
so less market interaction, yay \o/
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On 3/15/2021 at 6:37 AM, GraXXoR said:
You said illegal, I’m asking about the law.
I don’t see any *actual law* forbidding it, just some terms and conditions.It was about this comment from you. If reselling quanta is ********just******* against some terms and conditions then you surely can resell quanta because it's not an *actual law* forbidding it.
And CLEARLY you wouldn't do it. Why? Because it gets you banned. So, it is illegal in du (again, semantics are fun!) To resell quanta. Because it gets you banned. Thus you cant earn money with it. As you implied.
But hey, obviously you don't get it
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6 hours ago, GraXXoR said:
Ah, so now you are also implying that I am going to get caught selling ℏ. And you are going to watch and laugh for some reason.
Please, enlighten me, where did I say I would do that? Show me one single line.. quotes preferable to paraphrasing/making shit up.
or you know, you could just do again what you did with the “illegal” nonsense and squirrel out of it without admitting you were wrong.
it’s almost as if you’re getting defensive about something. Not entirely sure what, tho.nope, never implied that.
Merely pointed out that considering the EULA it is not allowed to sell quanta - and if you do, you get banned. Hence why YOUR point or implication of "mimimi thieving incurs real money damage" is NOT valid. Yes I used the term "illegal" in a broad sense - so what. Semantics
so yes, dont really know what your point is because everything you say doesnt make any sense
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1 hour ago, GraXXoR said:
You said illegal, I’m asking about the law.
I don’t see any *actual law* forbidding it, just some terms and conditions.well then do whatever you want in DU I guess because you mostly don't break any laws by your actions ingame. Resell quanta as much as you like then. Ill watch getting you banned xD
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34 minutes ago, Musclethorpe said:
I'm sorry, what? The only thing I had to potentially look forward to in .24 has been removed from it?
UPDATE 0.24: MANY FEATURES INCOMING
There’s a lot of great stuff on the way! You can get the scoop in these devblogs about new features slated for 024, though some -- like the Mission System that we highlighted in our previous newsletter -- may appear in a later phase of the update.
https://www.dualuniverse.game/news/february-newsletter
Yup, may appear in a later Phase of the update, whatever that means
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1 hour ago, GraXXoR said:
why is selling a game character illegal? I have sold plenty of SC ships and made loads of coin...
could you site the law that forbids this, please.
Sure
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-eula-en/
As he played eve. Up to the devs to decide that
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And also forbidden by NQ btw
https://www.dualuniverse.game/legal/eula
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1 hour ago, ErnstEllert said:
3 year ago i sold 2.7 Trillion for 9 grand in eve and 7 chars for 3 grand ^^
Yup. Which was illegal
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39 minutes ago, ErnstEllert said:
Of course you are... a shitty person!
Lmao
35 minutes ago, GraXXoR said:you’re right. It’s an org bank so nobody suffered.
next time you’re in an org, can you just hand me the contents of the org bank? Not your personal account, just the org. Because nobody suffers if it’s the org.
means I will have fun so it’s a net gain for humanity.
but in the real world, I’ll remember this next time someone is ripping blu rays and putting them on Pirate Bay for free.
Just pixels, check!!No financial gain, check!!
victimless shenanigans are the best shenanigans, right? Net gain.
now I’m just getting pedantic again I’ll stop now.
No, you have to work for it. If you then steal everything, noice.
And again.....RL comparison. They lose rl money. An org in a pixelgame doesn't lose any rl money. Wrong analogy
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9 hours ago, GraXXoR said:
Now add money to the equation with digital assets having increasingly real value (Bitcoin, Linden Dollars, DACs) and you start to incur “real” monetary damage. So now, you're at the point of causing actual financial hardship to someone on purpose, no matter how you look at it, and the associated ethics start coming into play.
Oh and just to adress this too: no, you don't incur "real" monetary damage and you dont cause any financial hardship whatsoever.
1) youre stealing from an org bank and org assets. The personal isk/quanta aren't affected at all and ppl can still continue their sub without financial troubles in buying dacs/plex with ingame money
2) this "real" value is only because dacs/plex can be bought via rl money
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You're not stealing actual money, just pixels
3) I don't have any personal gain (rl finances) from this. The org I stole from has no personal loss (rl finances). Reason being, RMT is illegal and you can't sell nor buy any ingame assets with rl money
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7 hours ago, GraXXoR said:
When you stole billions @Lethys did you, too, purposefully garner the trust of people around you getting them to rely on you and believe that you were their friend? Did you nurture that relationship with them with the express purpose of taking it all away from them? Did you even go so far as to use out of game chat and social tools to strike up friendships with them, like discord or teamspeak?
did you ever discuss things such as music and movies to find out their interests and further the ruse? Did you ever joke and laugh about things while they were maybe having a drink at the same time?
Or did you solely and exclusively do it as part of the game, knowing you brought them enjoyment and entertainment within the context of the game and that after you did that to them they laughed and chuckled about it that evening down the pub? Nothing personal...
When these games run for years, there’s more at stake for people than just the game.
With many MMOs providing an online experience akin to chat rooms and Facebook in lieu of physically interacting with “real” friends in the “real” world, many people make social and personal connections with people in game and create what can amount to true friendships.
The fact of the matter is that the difference and inherent distinction between “in game” and “in real life” is starting to become less and less clear cut as we move to an increasingly digital lifestyle. At what point does reality really end and fantasy actually start? It's far more blurred than it has ever been.
Did all that and did also cry with them when a father died or when someone got divorced. Laughed hard with all of them in teamspeak. Befriended them and drank lots and lots of beer.... and one day, when time was right, I stole everything they had
Sure they were pissed at first and they hunted me. Killed me lots of times and got some good loot, but it was never toxic - it was a game in a game. I was solo in a wormhole that time so I was a vagabond. Find my stuff in wormhole space, besiege me and take it all back was their game for some weeks. And it was hilarious, thrilling and really really funny. Stayed in their TS for that too.
Memes were shared, shit was talked and it was good fun.
One day the leader talked to me and needed help, their c5 was under attack from russians. I had good contracts because I sold T3 cruisers at that time too, which were hard to produce. So I batphoned my allies, brought my 2 deadspace carriers to their homeworld (slow af and they could've easily killed both but didn't) and we all fought the russians together. Lost one carrier but we were victorious. The battle lasted hours and I came late for work but it was exciting and good fun.
After that they let go of their gripes and we continued playing eve, each their own game but still connected through TS. I helped them defend and attack stuff, they helped defend my stuff
And guess what? I still talk to them to this day, we still have fun in TS and we still drink lots of beer. Because everyone is a good champ and I did smth in a friggin game 15 years ago. Right after the heist was the marriage of a FC I knew well - I drove there for 6h and partied hard with all of them and cried at the ceremony. Because the heist has nothing to do with RL
It's a matter of Perspective and dignity. It's nothing personal when I did this and I told them that everything we talked was real and honest. I never lied considering my RL and I really enjoyed all the time we spent together.
In that regard the eve community will always be superior to this one (at least the one when I played). They know its a game and don't give a fuck
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9 minutes ago, GraXXoR said:
True. But he’s still a complete piece of shit for doing it. If he can do that to people who thought he was a friend in the digital realm, he’d likely not baulk at doing the same in the analogue world. Digital games often just bring nascent desires to the surface in a (slightly more) consequence free environment.
lol
it's a game dude. I stole trillions in eve too over the years, that doesn't mean i would do it IRL. also it doesn't mean i'm a shitty person IRL, because you guessed it, this is a friggin pixel game
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7 minutes ago, LouHodo said:
True you are not. But I am saying it isn't any better anywhere else. So you can either move on and go play sometime else.
Or you can, pull up your big boy pants and cowboy up.
Or tell them what's wrong with the game, give ideas how to fix it and wait for an answer from them. Radical idea, I know
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3 minutes ago, LouHodo said:
It would, but this isn't just a MQ problem. I can easily point out a dozen game companies that fall short on this.
Sure. We're not stuck with any of those hundreds of other game companies tho. We're here
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11 minutes ago, LouHodo said:
No I have zero tolerance for stupid. And making post after post about whatever half-cocked conspiracy or fear mongering concept you have is just stupid.
Its a bit much lately (imo deserved but That's just me) and very strongly worded (not so much deserved but understandable).
But you know what would help?
Communication
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1 minute ago, LouHodo said:
Many are. But those who keep making these threads are obviously not.
You're not very Patient with hoomans it seems. Gotcha!
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1 minute ago, LouHodo said:
I am patient
As are many ppl
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2 minutes ago, LouHodo said:
The difference is I am patient.
I have waited nearly ten years for Star Citizen. 9 years for Cyberpunk 2077. I played WWII online for ten years, Eve Online for 15, Mortal Online for 8. So to say I am in a game for the long haul I mean it.
If people don't have patience then that's on them. Sorry that today's "Gib now!" Culture created this toxic impatient bunch of gamers and customers. Not everything is going to happen fast.
Played eve for 13 years. Has nothing to do with gib culture. Or how long you played other games
0.24 = pointless hot garbage
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