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  1. I do understand you want this game to be player run but what if Corporations/Players could be in-charge of there own NPC's. Like a Robot/Drone/Clone army that could be destroyed by opposing players for resources that they hold or contain. The NPC's could only act as scripted by players and more complicated commands would need a player to tell the army or just one NPC what to do.
  2. INFINITY CORPORATION ABOUT Infinity Corporation is a combat strategy and research organization specializing in offensive and defensive design, tactics, and AI. We are funded and supported by a real-world technology corporation in the U.S. RECRUITMENT We are currently looking for LUA coders, engineers, and pilots of all skill level, play style, and availability. https://community.dualthegame.com/organization/infinity-corporation DISCORD https://discord.gg/4qgpaJc WEBSITE http://www.infinitycorporation.org/
  3. This is a series of stories I have written about artificial intelligences (AIs). Originally I posted each one in a separate topic, but I have gathered them together so I can list them in order. (Thanks to @Kurock for suggesting this.) This story is about the early developers of sentient artificial intelligence. First Choice These stories happen during the rebellion against AIs in 2145. 1. MaybeNextWeek.pdf 2. TheBackdoor.pdf 3. BerryPicking.pdf 4. TheDialog.pdf 5. LastDance.pdf
  4. This story takes place on the Coast, while Spex and Aimie are "berry picking". TheDialog.pdf This story is part of the AI Series.
  5. This my third story taking place during the AI rebellion of 2145. It happens shortly after the lockdown in The Backdoor is lifted. BerryPicking.pdf This story is part of the AI Series.
  6. This story follows the events in Maybe Next Week as the opposition to AIs grows fiercer. TheBackdoor.pdf This story is part of the AI Series.
  7. I know this idea might seem pointless since players will do everything anyways and people have propably already asked thus, but I want to still talk about it. Now I know think you can program scripts into ships and stations but I still wanna dream a day where I can command my own droid army that can control ships, stations and veichels. Now how would this work? Well why not add mini blocks so the doid can be in corridors or ships, a droid core where u can program ur droid to maybe attack when sees enemy or run to other droids if there are too manny enemies and also joints so it can move around and other parts. Now these options and more would allow player to make droids in diffrent shapes, sizes and roles like defending, building or servecing. Now what could droids do that players cant, well what if there was only u and a small team and there is not enough teamates to control weapons, security systems, veichels, ships and more. Automated or complex droids can help you and your teamates fill the empty gaps some droids might have many eyes that can whatch multiple screens and locatins, some can gaurd or assist in escaping an attack or invasion and some can build, the possebilities are endless. Im not asking to add this devs im just asking to take notes of these ideas or get inspired by the idea to create your own and possibly create your own droid army like in star wars. So thx for making this type of game a reality for many people who has dreamt of something like this. "May the force be with you" Tell me what you think of my idea and give suggestions I will responde hopefully.
  8. This story began as an entry for Novawrimo2017. I started it, but it did not seem right, so I abandoned it for a while. Eventually, I had a new idea for it and then it all fell into place. By then it was much too late for the contest, but I wanted to share it anyway. I invite you to join me in an investigation of the relationship between a man and his AI in the fateful year of 2145. MaybeNextWeek.pdf This story is part of the AI Series.
  9. Wouldnt it be great if you can build you own army of robots? Ai grunts who could to tasks like mining, building things according to a construction plan, represent the army of a large organisation, etc. These units would be controlled by some kind of datacenter were you give them orders. They would be active as long the owner or a designated operator of an organisation is online and also only in an area of one planet or something like this. Pls send feedback
  10. Hi DU Community, I can envision the possibility of large corporations investing in the development of merchant AI (bots) using LUA scripting to interface with the various trade markets, perform analysis and make real-time automated buy/sell decisions based on a set of pre-defined objectives (minimize risk, maximize ROI, etc..) have we received any insight into what type of database architecture will be supporting the DU economy, is it going to be possible via API's or in-game interfaces for players to perform analysis and make informed data-driven decisions or will this type of thing be more of an external metagame? It would be ideal if players could download (in-game) trade/market data from the station/hub they are in to their ships computer which will be a repository for all the analytics described above - this could open the possibility of trading in data/information, for example the more stations you visit (and the more frequently you visit them) the more up-to-date your data assets will be etc.. in-game systems could emerge to enable (data storage, computing power, analysis, data protection, hacking, long-range data relay) other forms of data may include: obviously blueprints scripts/AI (running on-board) trade data (what you've purchased/sold) cargo manifests (historical record) station logs (where you've docked) comms logs (who you've communicated with) Any of this in the works?
  11. So I was reading this ... https://devblog.dualthegame.com/2016/11/16/official-lore-bible/#more-1000 I wonder how far we might be able to go in building something that can connect LUA scripting to Aphelia? Also ... could I as a "rogue" break the law and start building AI with LUA to control fleets of drones to do things like gather resources or automate production chains? It would be interesting to tie this in to the game lore too, in such a way that we could shape the game in to a state where "there are worse things than humans on this new world". I have some ideas too, but I'd like to be able to call out to external web services from the game so I could for example ... make a decision based on feeding an algorithm running on my own web server back in to a computer in the game, and use that decision to affect change in the game. This opens up the potential for things like Mobile apps allowing me to interact with my organisation when out and about!
  12. Drones and Gameplay Yes drones probably one of the most discussed topic with a lot dreams. I've been thinking a lot about how those things could be integrated in a sandbox game for a longtime now not just with Dual Universe. I want drones which are in theory capable of everything the player is able to do with his equipment. (DU equivalent: his constructs) It would be up to the programming skills of the smart people to develop good software which would also be a good trading good. Awesome AI software + awesome construct = awesome drone The problem with that is it will be most likely abused very quickly with some kind of replicator device and an army of drones steam rolling anything that is in the way. (And yes, I'm guilty I did this many times where I was able to do so) But since you are not alone in the universe that is not an option, they have to be nerfed in a way that doesn't cut the capability of them but also clearly restricts usage to prevent such SkyNet scenarios. I first thought about really complicated stuff that needs a very high level of knowledge and skills like (and dev time): Building up complicated rule sets in order to use them, the need for communication devices with limited range and a max number of drones or a master drone controller with "CPU" cycles that get used up by the various functions performed. (The CPU cycle thing is fun so, I had competitions with my nerd friends who could build the most efficient program) But all those have flaws and turn players off who don't want to dedicate much time to this topic. Drones should be a essential part of the gameplay and not just for the 10% who are able to grapst the topic. Things like summon your ship would be a drone activity, any construct performing a advanced series of maneuvers with a given task would be a drone. This kind of automation needs to be accessible to everyone either by hard work or buying it from the marked. Besides that, providing means for ingame automation makes third party bot software less viable. Then it hit me, how to prevent SkyNet and make drones a very good gameplay element in DU. DU already has some very unique and great abilities such as the rights and duty management system. So how about you need a licenses in order to use a drone. A license could be bought at the ark ship or a skill learned overtime but they are finite for example you can own only 5 per player. Those license must be assigned to a construct core in order for it to function as a drone. A little scenario Now I'm a big company with a giant mining site (claimed territory) and doing everything per hand is stupid, I WANT DRONES TO DOOO THAT..... So how do I get to use many drones there? That is where the rights and duty management comes in as a organisation you can claim a number of drone licenses form you members. However it is up to them to give them to you they could keep or trade them in the market if you don't offer enough in return. (And you could decline them membership for that but that is up to you) With the ability to sublicense you can make a small income and miss a drone or you could control more drones at once. The next problem pops up Ok now I have 15 drone licenses and all are used in the mining site for bots and somebody attacks. There are 5 additional fighter drones stationed at the side, so in order to defend it you need to dynamically reassign the license and risk 5 mining bots falling out of the sky or you could rent 5 additional licenses from a market place. This is in my opinion a very balanced solution which allows big empires to have a drone police to provide security, big companies with automated equipment to do work and the average Joe a relieve from resource grinding. P.S. it is 03:43 AM and I tired so for any mistakes: finders keepers :-P
  13. Im curious about how the AI and Custom programs will works as i think i heard that they are going to be locally saved meaning you cant make a miner for well you offline this seems like a big down side. so i was wondering if there would be a way to create in game computers or something along those lines that runs a (Custom)program in a loop every few seconds (note: these SHOULD cost a lot to make and larger ones could run much more much faster) on top of making mines and other such AI this would allow for automatic defenses. if anyone has any info on if you can actually save programs to run well you are away pls do say
  14. what if you could make a self replicating robot that could mine fight and travel to other worlds it could take over plants it would be like a plague
  15. Taliasnow

    leviathan npc

    a giant space creature that roams the stars and eats ships and/or planets you know somthing that you need to team up to fight
  16. (EDIT 30.05.17: Further development on the original proposal is suspended, as there were no players willing to join this kind of organization... But for reference I will not remove anything said in the original post) (EDIT 28.12.17: After joining ODY, I'd still like to promote the core idea of this proposal. My new goal is to create separate standalone open-source-projects which are loosely inspired by AI, just without the whole organization idea. Players will be able to repurpose these programs for their own use. I only wish for my programs to assist players in their everyday DU activities. For more information refere to the new project list at the end of this post.) ================================================== Original Post =================================================== Greetings, Dual Universe is the perfect setting for a little social experiment. I love boundless sandbox games, like this one, as they really promote creative gameplay. An often reoccurring theme in science fiction is the dream of a perfect society... I strongly believe that the only way to get closer to that vision is to create an artificial intelligence especially dedicated to take all important governmental decisions of a society. All mistakes that happen in a society because of human errors could be prevented! So what would be better opportunity to test this statement, than to actually play around with this idea in a game? Nothing can go wrong here! As you might've guessed this is an organization proposal, even though I don't have a name yet. I think a sort of research institute would be quite fitting. But this can be decided later by vote of the members. The name is actually not that important. Most important is how the AI is actually going to work. The ultimate goal is that the decisions of the AI are as reasonable as the decisions a human leader makes. Luckily DU is still quite limited (relative to reality) according to the possible decisions an organization can make. Therefore only simple programs are needed to get to the "right" decisions. Also important to note is that the purpose is not to micromanage everything the player does, but to only give high level supervision like a real government. So the players will still have private ownership and private sub-organizations e.g. a security service. How it works I've already set up a core framework for the AI based on a Discord Chatbot written in Python 3.5. A direct integration into DU will probably be very difficult as external programs are often used for cheating, and I hope NQ is well secured against this. However some abstract information of the game given through Discord are all that's necessary to make reasonable decisions. The easiest tasks for decision making are reactive decisions. In most cases there is only one correct reaction to a problem, which can be programmed by simple if/else statements. In the following picture I've tried to visualize how several aspects of the game could be handled by the AI: (sorry for the plain appearance, it's only a placeholder which will be replaced with the actual features of the AI) These are only some examples that came to my mind, and not necessarily the most important ones! What I'm really eager to see is how the AI will manage more vague decision processes, e.g. who is a trustworthy ally and who not (like indicated in the 1st picture). This will no longer only be an If/Else decision. The AI will need to adapt its decisions based on previous experience (so called "reinforcement learning"). Therefore I integrated the machine learning library "tensorflow" which is basically the brain behind all Google AI projects. They actually just open sourced it last year! This library is probably a little overpowered for the current tasks, but I'm sure we will use it more in the future! On the economic side the AI will automatically create jobs based on the needs of the organization and pay for every accomplished task. Another important factor would be the spatial awareness and building functionalities. Buildings and infrastructure should be build using predefined blueprints and functionalities, so the AI knows exactly what infrastructure is available. To keep the program simple everything in the world is reduced to an object-type (e.g. city/ mine/ military outpost) which has specific attributes (e.g. storage capacity/ defense turrets/ position). Each of this information has to be kept up-to-date by the players. Security Issues And in here lies a weak spot of this system. Our enemies and griefers will probably try to harm the AI by feeding it false-information, and thereby causing false reactions. So only trusted Members should have access to change critical information... However this will turn to a more and more time consuming task, as the overall information in DU continues to grow. Hopefully we'll find an alternative solution for this in the future. The decisions regarding the further progress of this project will be made by the programmers which are participating in the development of the AI. We could form a sort of democratic "Coders Council" in game, which will also decide on matters where AI is not able to make meaningful decisions. However the AI will always be the official leader of this organization, also for roleplaying purposes. Lore Apropos roleplay: I created a little backstory that would fit quite well to the great DU lore. (read here: https://devblog.dualthegame.com/2016/11/16/official-lore-bible/ ) "During the anti-AI-riots in the year 2145 there were still people who supported the sentient AIs. A group of scientists thought the fear of AI was only caused by human ignorance of their thought-structure. Certainly the phenomenal advancements of the AIs were scary, and made them seem acting strange, but only because the humans could not catch up with their development. During that time it was too late to stop this overhasty destruction of all AI. The scientists had to go underground and swear to rebuild AI, but this time without letting their mental abilities run out of control. They tried to hide forbidden AI technology, but the [UMF] soon discovered their hideouts and purged every bit of knowledge that was left. The whole mankind was under continuous oppression by the [UMF], right until the Great Exodus. But even though all technology was lost, the idea survived. A few scientists of the secret society decided to found a research institute on Alioth dedicated to rebuild an AI from scratch. This time they would be more cautious. Even though they admire Aphelia as she is the only (proto) AI on Alioth, they also fear her because she might be programmed by the [UMF] to make sure the colonists will follow the AI ban that is officially still in place on Alioth." (to be continued) Development Participation This stuff has probably never been done before, so it's very likely that it might not work out as planned. But if you like to develop your own AI, or you'd like to see a leader who is online 24/7 you should join us! It's also no problem if you are already member of another organization. I uploaded the AI on GitHub as open source project, so you can use it for your own organization as well. I welcome everyone who is willing to contribute to the project: https://github.com/CyberCrunch/DU_AI_Gov I skipped a lot of details of the development, so if you want to know more feel free to contact me. Maybe it would be helpful to even open a new thread on this forum exclusively for the programming part. I'm probably more into programming than into the actual playing, but I'm sure there are some like minded coders/engineers who would also like to see this happen! I invite everyone to test out the AI on this public test server. Currently most functions are still placeholders, but you can try to do some Smalltalk with the AI. The first thing that actually works is you can register yourself to its database, and the AI will remember you when the game launches. Link removed! (discord-bot has been shut down) I've got the feeling this is already getting to long, so I'll try to update this section further while the project continues. (EDIT 08.01.17: added overview) Chatbot Feature Overview Input Interfaces: Discord messages, Teamspeak PMs, Console commands, RSS feeds Output Capabilities: Discord messages, Teamspeak Text-/Voice-chat Economic Management: Keep track of resources, and assign players to specific tasks, according to their job-preference Entertainment Features: Conversational Chatbot, TTS of the DU Lore, TTS of input text (EDIT 28.12.17: Restructured Project List) ================================================== Project Overview =================================================== Web interface for management of Dual Universe organizations: https://github.com/CyberCrunch/DU_AI_Cloud Dual Universe themed tts-chatbot to assist players ingame: https://github.com/CyberCrunch/DU_AI_Adjutant A post regarding these new projects will follow soon...
  17. Programmable unit AI for creating and managing groups of drones, direct or remote control of different ship components (rotors, pistons, etc) or the station by an intuitive interface like in the scrap mechanic. There is an advanced mode for a simple scripting language to detailed setting the behavior of drones and various elements up to the writing of a primitive operating system for a ship with drones. Any drones can be grouped and linked to another drone for ease of management. Even the largest ships can be drones under the player or the whole team control. Also small drones should exist for different purposes (exploration, production resources, construction, espionage, protection, etc.). These drones can not be changed as they are like a ship modules, unlike the previous ones, which are necessary to build and customize.
  18. SilverLight Industries Founded as SilverLight Research by the United Nations in 2055 as a way to pool the research capabilities of many smaller companies into something that could assist with developing advanced Arkship technology, they were one of the few companies and organizations that could possibly compete with the globally powerful Nexus Corporation on a technological basis. Eventually, SilverLight expanded to include many other industries such as extraterrestrial mining and Arkship construction, assisting the U.N.’s Ark program through multiple facets of the project. However, the core project and top priority of SilverLight remained the artificial intelligence systems that would run the Arkships and assist humanity when they arrived on their new homeworld, Alioth. Soon after the last of the Arkships was completed, the U.N. shocked millions when it announced that Arkship resources were scarce, and that it would utilize an “artificial genetic selection algorithm” to decide who would live and who would perish in the oncoming apocalypse. Naturally, an uproar rose up, and riots and violent protests ravaged the streets of Earth in its last days. Recognizing that this was planned long before the Arkships’ completion, the Nexus Corporation, in cooperation with SilverLight and various other organizations, launched its own retaliation: “Project Cinderfall”. With SilverLight’s artificially intelligent algorithm development combined with Nexus Corp’s networking capabilities, Project Cinderfall circumvented the U.N.’s originally biased selection algorithm, allowing a much larger and more diverse population, including many members of SilverLight, to make it aboard the Arkships and into the rebirth of humanity in the age of Alioth. SilverLight Industries > Here <
  19. Alright so Dual Universe is going to have an underlying secret according to their kickstarter, those who fund at the Kyrium level ($7809) will aid in developing of "Development of a DU Secret". Now of course everything that follows here is just speculation. JC is an expert in the latest Robotics and AI, I believe that there will be an AI in the game which may have its own objectives. This AI would likely be unlike anything we have in any other game, and might even learn for itself to make its own decisions. When the game is released, don't trust the AI anymore than you have to. Here is a quote from the lore article here. "There’s something schizophrenic, even bipolar about this AI. Depending on whether she’s addressing you or the phantom crew, whether she’s handling the ship or coaching you, she adopts a different tone and a different vocabulary. It’s not just that she’s adapting, that she manipulates you to push you to your optimum mental and physical health – which I accept quite willingly – she seems to be pursuing a greater, more secret goal, which is not just a matter of a successful colonization or our survival. Something else is at work in her that I can’t seem to understand or articulate." I believe that this is the secret that they are talking about, of course this is a merely speculation, there is no proof. Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions? If I'm just making up crap please let me know.
  20. Hello , I'd like to be able to create, design and program things or why not trade it with the comunity to get rich ! Those would be some kind of products, programed systems, like automatic defense of a fort, city, base. Or even admin acces, Doors control, restrictions, and maybe ability to HACK terminals that were programmed by other players in order to bypass security, to control the program and reverse the situation. By designing I also mean the UI shape would be something you could create or trade, So each faction could own its own "personality". And maybe something more than the UI, dunno lets talk about that ! You would be able to save the program on hard drives, to use it from a "smartphone from the future", a control terminal, a spaceship(anysize). Something like that would require a simple langage such as LUA, you'll have to learn sure but this feature could be the opening for an infinite way to scultp the world, and make this place living with tons of interactions, and new paths. Its also a big opening for trading(selling programs, AI), recruiting(a member that knows how to program), wars/battles: victory by hacking devices (etc...) You would choose whatever you want to create to defend yourself, upgrade the base/ship (etc...). I hope that this idea wasn't already set Thanks ! EDIT: I went further into my explanations, to let you exactly know what I meant: I was thinking about something more "complex", at least free to do anything. Like a turret protocol, choose when, how, why it should fire. And something I would looove to be able to do is assembling my system to make my turret: servo motors, power source, weapon technology used, sensors, and hull but with voxels not the furnitures(meshes) they give. Then you'll have to script the turret to make it aim right by contoling each servo motors, setup the axis, program it so you can control it with the keys you binded in the program, or even program an AI that aim everything the sensors detect as 'hostile". Thats where the hacking is interesting, he change the aim protocol from hostile to allies, tirn those against the creator maybe ^^
  21. So in the lore we see two different kinds of AI. The AI that commands the Arkship and a personal AI. I assume that these are different kinds with the Ark AI being more akin to an A[g]I or Artificial General Intelligence though not fully one and the personal AI being more of the Interface your suit uses to give you information on whats in your Kadpak and possibly news from other players and such along with any other general information that the player may need. That first part basically outlines what I think the person AI should be. Not a full AI but the suit interface with different functions. The reason for it being an AI and not just some text on screen would be to help keep the person sane as long periods with no interaction with others can cause a person to go insane. Here are some things the AI could do/help with though this is mostly game fluff and ways to explain things the game does with lore. Display whats currently in the Kadpak Show a news-feed from other players around the galaxy Alert the player to different environmental things such as new ores or another player entering the immediate area. Connect to a ship and help provide basic support for things like control, targeting, navigation, and repair. Scripts would augment or replace this. Alert the player to ship conditions like hull integrity or atmosphere Alert the player to blueprint problems Be nameable with (modifiable?) voice packs (possibly a cash shop / tradeable item created by users for ingame money) Now for the more "fun" part. When reading the lore and some of the parts of the ship AI I was somehow reminded of Fallout and the different vaults in that game as well as several other sci-fi things with AI in them. We know that our own Arkship landed and is at least somewhat sane but what about the others? A number of Arkships never made it off Earth but its assumed that at least some others did and they have probably been traveling almost as long or longer so where are they? These are some ideas for a few of the other Arkships however these should be later in the game after people start to explore out and such. Rouge AI: This Arkship AI has gone rouge and has begun using the Arkships guns to kill off everything around it though it appears to have gone rouge after/before landing (two ideas here) Offline AI: The Arkship continues to function for the most part autonomously however with the AI offline it is unable to land and release the humans inside. Mad AI: The AI has gone mad and has used its influence on the humans inside driving them all mad and begin to hunt anyone and anything not part of their Arkship. Because the AI is still online the Arkship managed to land though it would most likely not be a nice landing (crooked/ fallen over) and the uniforms of these others should be different in some way (maybe colors or design) Aka: space pirates Functional AI: The AI is fully functional however the Arkship took damage from an unknown source and most of the humans were "lost" and the ship is drifting. The AI is working on a way to allow the Arkship to land. DisFunctional AI: Similar to the Functional AI however this AI has woken up the brains of the remaining crew to assist it figuring a way to land the ship properly by utilizing their brains. Hive AI: think star trek borg but humans less covered in tech Mostly just some random ideas I came up to allow for more PvE and interesting exploration
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