I want this game to be the go to game. I like it. I know all your PVP attack anyone that asks a question about non pvp. I have been here a long time too. I am not young I have been gaming since they were invented. I will join a large org. and find the spot I like to play. pvp is not a turn off for me. even though it already has players camping just outside safe zones looking for small ships that cross the line. why is that? are the players that do that scared to fight a ship that can fire back? I have been trying to get friends and players from every game i play to join us here. the first and many times the last question they ask me is Is it all PVP when i say yes they get turned off and start saying how its always the same thing. new players are targeted by long time players. I think a game that only goes one way will only ever have one side of the dollar. Dollars pay for the Game it grows or dies with dollars bottom line. so attack my view if you can't see it. but both ways make it easy for me to get people to join us.