Moosegun

If they are openly advertising actual exploits I 100% agree, but this was not an exploit, it was a use of gameplay mechanics which it was unclear whether they were intended to be used that way. Like i said, I see the it as a 100% legit thing to do, you dont, it is a grey area. NQ should have clarified it was seen as a exploit, even if they didnt have a fix for it, if they had done then I agree a ban would be appropriate. As NQ didnt clarify the situation, there is no way you can sanction the players involved. If they are openly advertising stuff that is confirmed as an exploit, different story. For the basis of clarity / bias can you confirm if you lost a ship to these people?

My biggest issue with these bot orders is not the quanta, quanta is easy to make and there are more profitable ways to make it that this cheese. My issue is that it is stopping products from getting to markets to be sold to players. All these lazy players SHOULD be making things players wants to buy, as it is they are just sitting there outside the 'player made universe'. This is happening in too many places, like giving free repairs and teleports in support. All players get 100,000k a day for nothing, tell the this is beta compensation of issues and pass them to a community support team to do ingame repairs / refuel / transportation. Currently NOONE is pushing these services at all because there is no point. You crash, NQ will fix it........ a bit disappointed tbh, you are making decisions that go against what you are trying to create.

Best off out then, bye!!!

There main area of notification is Discord, now I know this will cause loads of people to tell me that they dont use Discord and require notification is a wide range of places (here, email, facebook, twitter, billboard outside local school, carrier pigeon), but that is the situation.

This has been discussed for years and loads of suggestions to fix it and somehow NQ havent implemented any of them. So I hope they are working on a PROPER fix rather than a sticking plaster. My prefer option is a planets about 100su away, any ship left 48 hours are dumped there, the owner can make there own way to get them back

Sorry it is NOT shady to set up subscription as recurring, it is industry standard, coming from someone who has worked with e-commerce / payment systems on and off for 30 years. 'Snake oil' I actually spat my tea out at that one.

Yeah, might be something to do with the maintenance, not sure though.......

Try losing a 5000kl stack of Stainless Steel, see what that does to your blood pressure. Got a ticket for that outstanding.

One thing I would say is, also check your processes for conflicts. I used to get CRAZY lag freezes, which would last for a while, which I always put down to the game, then noticed my wallpaper engine was spiking my GPU whenever the lags occurred, since i turned this off I have not had them at all.

I am currently doing a series of videos about how to do other careers than mining in DU, our org is basically a network of independent businesses where we plug in players to allow them to do create there own business doing what they want. I now never have the time to mine, i have several players who never mine, some build, some haul, some trade other members goods, infact the only people that do mine are those that want to.

It is also down to the user, different users not only have different pc spec (making performance widely different) but also very different ideas of what is acceptable. For me performance in this game is acceptable, even most of the time around markets, they always load in for me before I get there, apart from at the weekends when the server gets busy. Sometime then i have to slow down, park and relog, then everything is there, for me that is part of beta. I only need functional performance though, I removed my FPS counter years ago because a few stutters dont bother me, I am not driven by graphics / performance, I am driven by gameplay and DU is giving more of a sandbox world than ANYTHING I have played before, and I have played a lot of sandbox games in the last 30+ year. You can become a hauler, a trader (both goods and commodities), an manufacture, you can start a racing team or open a chain of petrol stations, a meganode hunter, the owner of a space station casino, the choice is yours.... there are already loads of paths to take in the game, if you play within the community.

why does everyone talk about this game like the only way to play is mining......... there a loads of other paths already (goods trading, manufacturing, designing, haulage, lua coder, commodity trader), and more to come

I think it is great that we have a solid 8% who will continue to post memes............

It 100% is work in progress, that is why I am not that stressed about it yet. As i have said before, i think NQ want us to have a period of calm to build, this is frustrating for the pvp crowd but it is going to remain a placeholder until it is ready, only really then can we judge. We dont need it yet, because the only pvp in the game is either consensual or noobs getting killed like fish in a barrel. The market is a LONG way from getting saturated for product, I am still only playing against bots on several markets for key items, people are still buying lots and lots of things.

If you are playing it like rust that is part of your problem, there is nothing to do if you play solo and have no imagination. Live like a hermit, you will get bored.

Going to be totally honest with you here, I wish they had kept it in the game, i liked the fact you could steal ships from unclaimed tiles, jacking ships is gameplay. As long as they were using gameplay mechanics, claiming the tile etc. then they had no idea if it was intended or not, thus you cannot punish them for it. My biggest issue with this whole thing is that is went on weeks before NQ said or did anything, the first thing they should have done when they found out about it is issue a statement telling everyone whether or not it was considered an exploit. From that stage on anyone doing it could be punished, not before.

I love it when someone gets it, I spent today training someone how to get into our market network, then someone else wanted to know about commodities trading (the biggest earners in this game dont need to exploit or even have bases), we had a wannabee ship building who is working on a new mining barge, another guy we are setting up to do the hauling. On two occasions recently I have been set b buy order for ore, only for them to be filled whilst I was still there. Which was followed by me finding them on the market to make contact with them and potential miners. After shutdown I am hoping to get to Sicari to scope out locations for a racetrack. I love this game, but you have got to make up your mind what you want to be, and how to do it, you can be anything (we you will be able to).

So you do a launch package where people who join the game in get something like 10,000,000 SP and can allocate them to specalise from the start, hell given them some money and the choice of decent bloody ships too. That would be my solution, raise the starting bar, get rid of the bullshit starting experience, which doesnt resemble the real game and start new players from a better position..... simples They will be walking into a world which is premade, where the economy has stabilised, cool ships and building BPs will be affordable. There will be player safe zones where they can move in. We will have created the world that NQ have always said they want players to walk into. it is up to us to do it, and we can if more players and more important big org stopped focusing on themselves and focus more on what they can bring to civlisation.

Erm you do realise a loads of money also gets spent at the other end TO BOTS, bots are also a massive quanta sink, only NQ knows which is greater. and only a certain number of player generating income by cheesing it from selling to bots, I havent sold a single item to bots, nor does anyone else I play with, it is a certain playerstyle choice, and a shit one at that because it completely cuts out the community / civilisation we should be building. Also the daily 100k, even if you only take 5000 logins, injects - 500,000,000 per day.

Mate that doesnt even make any sense..... seriously I think you will find I created and posted a video for NQ about this exploit several weeks ago, you dont need exploits to get ahead, knowledge and hard graft is enough. I am in a better state because i work harder at it.

I would 100% agree that T1 buys bots can be removed from the game now, they are not needed, there are enough players buying from the market, it is removing ore from the game which is really not good and stop supply range as people are just bulk making a single product, rather than having to provide a wider range to the general public (something we do). This should be done with the UTMOST urgency. Anyone thinking of doing it, might make to income short term but it is a very lazy path, which you could find is blocked very soon (hopefully).

But it was a soft launch, it was sold as such, that is why they can charge subs, if people choose not to join, that was their choice.

I do really get your point, and I would 100% take a wipe for a better game, and I agree I would be stupid not to. To clarify, they have said that they will do whatever possible to avoid wipes and any wipes that did happen would be compensated. Tbh I wouldnt even want all of it, infact I would settle for a long headstart. But some sort of recognition of loss is required, I bloody love this game and defend it in a lot of places, if it pisses me off then I think it might upset a few others. Finding agreement is becoming a worrying trend today

So you would be ok with them wiping and giving everything back to players? I am cool with that. They can do that as much work as they want on the game. MMO's launches are a big thing for some people, this one was for me. When you have invested three years of your life into an alpha, thinking about your starting strat, you then manage to get a significant amount of time off work to ensure that plan is put in place, because you were told it was the launch, people have the right to be pissed if that changes. As much as I love them, this is NQ's problem of there own making, not mine. I am not complaining about not receiving beta keys or something petty here.

Yes mate, that is what I was suggesting, alongside what NQ appear to be planning. The additional element was to add more destruction to pvp, which I 100% agree is needed. More destruction in large scale pvp needs to reduce military strength of the forces involved significantly enough to make them think twice but this solution would not effect skilled pirates. @anomoly did you just create a forum thread that resulted in some consensus, gg