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Last I heard they were going to release with safe zones still intact. Anything past release is a crap shoot as no guarantee the game survives long. And how are they gonna make outer planets pvp without atmo pvp? Or do you mean the just reduce the safe zone down to the atmo of the planet. It all sounds bad anyway. The whole game needs to be in pvp zone or this "concept" will never work. EvE ans Star Citizen have all their content in pvp zones, and both have more money and eyes on them than DU. Coincidence?

Talking about lies....we all should of known how shady NQ was calling their public release "beta". Hindsight is 20/20 I guess but the reality is when you look back NQ has always shown their true colors. Nothing but lies and stretching truths as thin as they can.

Everything constantly moving to aphelia and things NQ controlled (asteroids and alien cores) just proves the game is going as far away from player driven as can be. And it all just leads to BORING. Imagine back in 2020 when beta released, no schematics, a decent starting player base. Now Imagine only Sanctuary safe zone and elements died at a good rate in pvp and pve. Game would of been alive and super player driven. DU is not redeemable in my eyes and whatever bastardized version that limps to release you can bet I won't be paying for it, I will also tell any friend that asks about it to stay away too.

I'm empathic but guess what, if I fail at my job I get FIRED. It's the way the world works. Just because a company exists doesn't free it from criticism or responsibility. NQ has failed and that's the reality so yes some people will lose their jobs after the servers shut down when "launch" fails to generate a sustainable player base. That's life we live then we die and companies form then they die.

It's shouting into the void. Even back in alpha we gave them good ideas on how to do asteroids, that incorporated real exploration, that was in a way able to be coded and developed (no crazy grand plans) and what did we get, the dumbest lowest effort with dsat and the T1-T5 theme. Either they don't care to occasionally take some inspiration from the community or they incapable of making good gameplay loops on their own. Both bad. Game is boring as [filtered].

I'd say it doesn't have potential and never did. But here is the thing. Potential means literally nothing. NOTHING. potential doesn't pay salaries. Potential doesn't write code. Potential doesn't come up with proper management styles. Potential doesn't keep a playerbase to pay subs for years. I can't wait til after DU dies and then we can here about potential in all the past tense form. "Man DU had such potential such a shame the servers shut down".

I remember talking to a friend who worked in development. Worked for company that did something with making apps and software. He said ideas are a dime a dozen. Everyone has them. Many good. Only very few know how to actually execute. That's what matters. He talked about someone having an idea and went to developers and to make his idea come to life and he wanted half profits or stake, and they basically laughed at him. That's not the hard part. People keep saying DU has potential but does it? Did it ever? Or was it just some half baked idea. Then combine that with a company unable to execute and seemingly makes the wrong decision at every turn. DU really never had a chance.

I think aphelia is just skynet. Skynet is smart and is able to learn. It first tried to kill all humans, and tried to kill John Connor but that failed, but in the end learned instead of killing humans they were easily manipulated. Give them the illusion on "freedom". Make the humans run the machines. Aphelia is just the next evolution of skynet.

Oh God reminding me of my days in SWG. The customization was amazing. Some were dancers, some jedi in robes, so regular people, some decked out in crazy armor. They even had a cool appearance tab so that if you looted that rare pink chest plate you could still equip it for the bonus but then wear a regular shirt if you wanted to look a certain way. Walking into the cantina on mos Eisley there would be 20+ people in their all unique looking yet still fitting the star wars style. Just amazing. 20 years later we all wearin a uniform to work for aphelia who just seems to be a decendant of Jeff bezo or Elon musk. Faceless nameless drones to grind out a sorry existence.

Wish In one hand shit in the other and see which fills up faster. Good games are not built on hope's and wishes. Good games are built from people with experience, and hard work. There is a reason DU is at where it is now, and that is because NQ isn't capable of building the game you wish for. Instead they have filled your hands with shit.

What would have been best would have been to put schematics in DURING THE FVCKING ALPHA PHASE OF THE GAME. This is what you get when make people play during an alpha and make them pay. It doesn't matter if schematics were right or wrong, people made emotional decisions and that is to leave. If you put schematics in during alpha when 5% of population was playing knowing full well a wipe comes, then when game is released your playerbase is none the wiser and would have grinder for them and built up factories over years and some would do collabs to get their faster. Maybe one day developers will learn this. Doubtful tho NQ has always been strapped for cash and they needed to release asap. Same with Starbase. Now both communities are paying the price.

It's crazy how DU doesn't even really have the basics that MMOs had 20 years ago for social interaction. Yes we have discord which is great for people you already know. But tools that help meet people ingame helps so so much.

Don't understand why the exchange is needed for a game that has 100 people population.

DayZ is actually damn good right now. They have multiple maps. And many mods. You can find a server that fits your playstyle. Some are lightly modded no bases on smaller maps, others heavy modded with bases. Some are rp servers. Even top streamers are playing it again. DayZ has never been better.

I agree. And it's like we have sacrificed everything for this "single shard metaverse" but what has it given us back? No real gameplay loops, and boring mechanics that are just for time sinks. I've had more fun on a 80 man DayZ server than I ever had in DU. You still need to make a GAME first. DU has just become boring universe.

Their industry game play. That's what I'm talking about. And they still have millions left over from the mega node days. Once you build your mega factory then majority of your indy gameplay is over. Drag and drop ore.

Tell that to the people I know who have multiple billions, and all they do Is dump ore in. It literally happens.

I'm not disagreeing with you but putting in schematics by bots and nothing else shows their lack of imagination. They could have added a power number to industry units too, and limit the power on a core that can run them. Now that industrialst that wants to grow has to really plan their industry, and it also has to Manually move parts from one core to another. A dedicated industrialst then can still produce almost everything but it also takes work, many cores, planning, maintenance. Thus extending gameplay. Schematic is just a money time sink. I know people who have factory that make 95%+ the stuff In game, and just drop ore in and it automatically maintains. Thus meaning their gameplay is largely over.

I agree but by NQ making that thread it just reinforces to me they don't know how to make an mmo. This game will never make it with NQ at the helm.

Keep in mind it was sold as being heavily pvp centric. All their videos in alpha talked about "only sanctuary will be a safe zone". That's something NQ as a company literally said to get people to buy this game along with the building part. You can't then get mad at those people for being upset NQ basically lied to their faces to get their money. Pvp Sells. NQ said whatever they could to cast as big a net as possible and you can't blame the pvp crowd on that, that squarely rest on NQ shoulders. Go ahead, youtube NQs old videos during alpha if you are new to see how they sold this game as being heavily pvp.

Yes, and DUs doesn't because they have no concept or consistency. The two worlds are miles apart in DU. So they should just remove PvP altogether, or work on making their unique concepts that allow pvp in the whole game world. As it stands now DU is dreadfully boring. Everyone I use to play with had quit. And this was long before wipe talks. When you prioritize building as your main gameplay, you of course gonna have a dead game because that's niche as fvck. Look at SC it's got its host of problems but it is still wildly popular for a space game. Space engineers did It right, make the players pay for individual servers and mod it. That's what DU should of done because NQ doesn't have the slightest clue how to make an mmo. "jUsT lEt tHe pLaYeRs pRoViDe tHe cOnTeNt" Then give us no tools to do so. GG

Not comparing the games I'm comparing one concept, and that is if you do open world pvp in a single shard, EvE has shown to work where everyone lives in the pvp zone, thus not splitting its playerbase and is more seemless in its gameplay. DU separates it's community by its design choices and it shows.

Once again, everyone in EvE exists in the pvp zone. EVERYONE. and that game has been around 20 years and has a player base. DU is Dead Universe.

Like eve online where the whole game world is a pvp zone. That's the only way for DU to survive. Sanc only for noobs learning the game and limit ores and how many machines they can have.

The whole point of creating anything but no purpose shows NQs lack of understanding of games and MMOs. Ohhhhh you built a cabin by the woods. Why do I wanna visit? What can I do there. Does it protect me from the elements? Can I buy something there? And now with this exchange its like the aphelia markets taking the small reason to even go to someone's places physically (buy a BP or token) is slowly being taken away. NQ might be able to turn a profit if this was like space engineers and they has the players rent and pay for servers and tweak rules to their liking. As it stands now they keep removing as much player driven content as they can.