Triopalite

I've been saying 'Wipe' for a while now. They did a wipe in Elite Dangerous and the game just got stronger, we had all sorts of updates in SE where you lost stuff we had built, but when a game is pre 'full' release in any stage, wipes can happen, don't play if you can't cope with a wipe.. I had millions in ED, plus the best ship in beta, but when they wiped, it all went. But for the good of the game, starting with a level playing field for 'all' at release, it was very important the wipe happened, it brought lots of new players in.

I play Space Engineers, Empyrion, Starmade & DU. These are space based building games, o.k. not perhaps what this game wants to be, but similar. I use creative mode in SE & Emp, but I also play survival in both to. I like creative mode, kick back and take some time building a ship that you really want to see ingame. The chances are some, infact probably most, will not get ingame as DU stands. But that doesn't matter, you have done it in creative and the challenge then is to try and get to a position where building that ship ingame itself, becomes addictive. You create your own game.

First of all, thank you for the transcript, I don't like discord much so don't bother with it. So it is nice to have the conversation here. Thanks go to the player 'Chargent' for his work in this. The thing I would take away from this and possibly bring me back earlier to DU, is a creative mode. The game seems to me to be ideally suited to that, so hopefully that will come. Other than that, I'm eating a burger.

That is why the game should be wiped at release. Everyone on an equal footing.

A complete wipe is really how they should have moved forward imho. But because they don't want to, although not ruled it out. They are just building more problems down the road. I do feel eventually they will wipe, either parcial or full, to survive.

Also, the numbers on the update live stream were pretty low at around 840'ish tops. SE had an update a week or so ago and got around 4000 viewers and that wasn't really anything major. I just don't think they have the player numbers, they need to keep pvp players happy, not just voxel creators. Pvp will be the only thing that will keep DU online for any length of time (just imo). I wish them luck though.

Yeah, I heard about the free month, maybe I'll have it and stay connected after the end of Nov, who knows. But it really won't bother me either way, I prefer to check back next year and hope to build large ships.

My sub ends in a few days (end of Nov). I won't be renewing, but instead waiting until mid 2021 to see how things are then. I wanted to build large ships, but have been told that isn't really possible in DU. However, someone said they may be introducing a larger core for ships in the future. So I'll be reporting back (maybe), mid 2021. I'm going to keep an eye on the forum though, get good info that way.

I'm not sure very large ships are possible ingame. I could be wrong and would be very interested as to the largest ship that players can build.

I've played for a while, but I'm not continuing subbing for the time being. I will probably pick it up on release whenever that is. I think they should do what FDev did with Elite Dangerous and do a full wipe on 'release proper'. I had millions in ED great ship etc, but lost all that on the wipe when we moved from beta to release. I didn't mind, the game was easy in beta to get things, on release it was a little harder but I didn't mind that, the game was equal to everyone then. Orgs can be an issue sometimes, they have to make it attractive to single players as well. That is hard to achieve though.

Very surprised there is no easy cancel 'sub' process. I have sent a ticket (xsolla) to cancel my sub when the current one runs out. I may pick it back up sometime next year, not sure yet.

NQ can ban them, or lets be honest, withdraw their service. But they should also refund any money recieved, taking out days used etc. I would have thought that to be the fair way to deal with a problem that isn't all one sided.