kulkija

Who would like to play: Go to work - > Pay your taxes -> Go to work - > Pay your taxes -> Go to work - > Pay your taxes

Eventually will happen what pvp'ers want. Full pvp game, when there are no builders and non-pvp'ers left

https://youtu.be/FV54JaiAbmg?t=3183 53:10 "Once that grace period is over you will actually loose ownership of that territory."

Latest Vlog about Demeter - Time: 1:29 https://youtu.be/FV54JaiAbmg?t=5372 Question: NQ Shesch: It may be players not playing at the launch of Demeter and they come back after couple of months. They see their construct burred into the ground. Can they ask for help to dig out the construct. NQ Deckard , Answer: absolutely yes. My Question: How is this possible if their taxes are not paid. It is the case If they are not playing at the launch of Demeter and coming back after couple of months after launch. Ownership of the tile is gone and there is new owner. And possibly whole base is looted.

This is worse that r0.23 and schematics. Schemas are pain only once. This Territory Taxation stress newer ends.

I do not recall that they said that after territory is released, former players property would also be released. They said that "bad things may happen to those constructs". If all property is released it will create huge amount of bad blood and cheap loot. Question to NQ: Please clarify what happens to constructs on territory if territory is released. Question 2: Is it "fair play" if player has active subscription and game mechanics (territory taxes) releases ownership of players property tile and constructs?

Territory tax Enables automated cheap loot. Even when you have active subscription. Why NQ is planning this? No idea... - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - https://board.dualthegame.com/index.php?/topic/23750-poll-about-territory-taxes/

Vote no for Territory taxes - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - https://board.dualthegame.com/index.php?/topic/23750-poll-about-territory-taxes/

r.i.p - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - https://board.dualthegame.com/index.php?/topic/23750-poll-about-territory-taxes/

Yes I have real life and real Job I work hard. After workday I'm usually very tired. I don't need a second job in video-game. I want to relax and chill. DU has been that place where I can relax after a hard day. Without any stress or obligations. That is my play-style Why can't I have it here anymore? - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes -

I think your concerns are right.

Was this for questions about Demeter. Or am I missing something?

The whole idea of Beta-Soft launch was to enable players to create content before 1.0 launch. That were basically that we players did work in favor for NQ creating content for their game. Nice thank you, these new taxes. How this need to move assets to Sanctuary or space fit into that. - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes -

I agree by 100% How ever : #3. Remove proposed Territory taxes for good. 4. Newer introduce timer based loss of property/assets in any form as long as Subscription is active. - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes -

Questions: 1 If Territory taxes are not paid what are those “bad things” which may happen to my assets in that territory. 2 Is releasing ownership one option? 2.1 Follow-up: Will it create cheap and easy loot. Assuming my Subscription still remains active.

So you proposing just hidden Territory tax in form of "upkeep payments". Still timer based easy loot. Edit: Or did I understand it wrong. Sentence is too complex for me. English is not my native language.

I know. But I'm strongly against any timer based automatic "releases of ownership". My opinion is that hose who propose that are just seeking cheap and easy loot. Nothing else. - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - Say NO for easy loot -

There has been also other features which has encouraged us to by our own land. First territory unit / tile free at every planet and moon Total 29 free tiles, before any payments were required. Now they cos 116 MIL per month!! Next tiles were fairly priced Connected tiles will boost energy Connected tiles will boost mining units Connected tiles will boost defense in Territory warfare To first encourage player to do things and then punish about it is extremely bad game-design. Territory tax is absolute bad idea and should newer go live. If taxes are needed for money sinks, they need to be VAT type. This means that they will be due only if player does some actions to create value. Not automatically by timer. Generally taxes should not be collected by "Aphelia" because "Aphelia" is not such an entity which should act actively in this game world. Its role must be limited to be a main actor in Lore. How Player Nations may newer be able to collect taxes via RDMS if Aphelia is already maxed out the reasonable amount of taxes. - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes -

What if NQs game-designers actually honestly think that r0.23 and all bad patches after it are interesting and creating good Gameplay experience. Before every patch there has been lots of well written comments and arguments about what may be "not fun" or what may go wrong. How ever there has been also a vocal group in favor of those terrible changes. Seems like NQ is listening only those who support their proposals. I Think that our voice has been week. What can we do about it. (I know we can) - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes -

I agree by 100% Territory tax is fundamental change of the game. We, players should use our voice to speak out and say NO to these taxes. I'm just curious about why this Territory tax is introduced. - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes -

If there is a problem on terraforming database (tunnels), then problem still exists and eventually situation may be the same as now. Why not make Terraforming more expensive? Fee for Terraforming actions Weekly Tax to tiles which has Terraforming applied. This way players can opt-on about are the willing to pay taxes. To enable existence of current great cities and other constructs, they could apply to be free of taxes. But new terraforming would not be tax-free. - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes - https://board.dualthegame.com/index.php?/topic/23750-poll-about-territory-taxes/

@ NQ - What exactly are these changes?

True. I live next tile at Market 15. Before r0.23 it had life. Ships coming and going 24/7 and players in the near tiles doing their things regularly. After that killer patch, area is empty and I see ship or two in a week. We had a small corporation/community of 10+ players. Now there is 3 of us left. After Demeter, will DU survive. Probably not - Call To Action – Say NO to territory taxes -