_Kiwi_ Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 The main problem with DU at the moment imo is a lack of other gameplay loops other than just mining. So I have a few suggestions for things that should be added Exploration Sites Exploration sites would be locations scattered around space (mainly around planetary bodies) that you would have to scan down with a minigame. to do this you would fit a "probe Launcher" to your ship and you would be able to spot signatures up to 20 SU away from you to scan down, and once you do you get the location of the entrance to the site. once you reach the entrance, you are no longer able to be detected on radar so if people want to come kill you they have to scan down the site as well. In the site there would be locked containers floating in space left behind by whoever left the monoliths behind (to keep with the lore), which you would also have to unlock with a different minigame. The loot from these crates would have to be valuable and new, which leads to the next new gameplay loop. Limited Run Schematics All schematics other than T1 should become limited run schematics and not be sold on the market. This would mean that industry would become actual gameplay, as you would have to replenish the schematics in your machines whenever they run out, either by manually adding schematics to the schematic banks or from containers that the machines could draw from whenever they run out of runs on the current ones. The way to get these schematics would be to either find them in exploration sites, or through invention. For invention, you would get a schematic of the previous tier and put it in an "invention machine", select the desired output for schematics with multiple possible upgrades, and hit run. These invention runs would not have a 100% chance of success, and whether or not it succeeds it would consume the schematic it was given. Invention run success chances could be improved with special parts from exploration sites, and for T3+ invention you could add an extra item from exploration sites that would be necessary to attempt the run. Feel free to critique this any way you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taziar Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 What about using research to kill 2 birds with one stone... Research requires (the resources of) creating and destroying many copies that items as part of the process. That would create an ore sink not directly tied to ship destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaocordeiro Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Why do ppl want to to make the game more painfull to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoyoteNZ Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 As long as you are not forcing the people who enjoy industry into game loops which they don’t like, such as exploration etc. personaly I have two problems with industry, 1. It is two simple. Make it more complex, especially for higher tier stuff. Industry guys really like to get into the nuts and bolts of getting things going and optimised, and this current system is just two simple. 2. More ways to compete. Currently the only way to compete with other industry guys is to have better talents. It doesn’t matter how good you are at arranging refiners, chemical plants, overflows, etc.. The only way to compete is to have money to have more schematics, and/or to have higher talents. The talents is a good start, to seperate the industry invested from the other invested players, but there should also be a. Level of skill, optimisation etc. which also gives an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shulace Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, CoyoteNZ said: It is two simple. How about five then? _Kiwi_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kiwi_ Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 19 hours ago, CoyoteNZ said: 1. It is two simple. Make it more complex, especially for higher tier stuff. Industry guys really like to get into the nuts and bolts of getting things going and optimised, and this current system is just two simple That is definitely true, as an industry guy I agree. To make things complex (and therefore fun) I have to try push myself by making a massive factory to the extent that transfer units become too slow. one way I think they could add complexity easily is to make it where items that are tiered like engines require the element from the lower teir to construct. While not perfect, it would definitely up the challenge a bit and make sure that the lower tiers are not obsolete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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